FACT: The GOP NEVER Took The Religious Whacko Base Seriously...

[WeDidIt]

until they sat out the '92 election.

See where that got them?

[Jackpine Radical]

1. I don't think sitting it out is smart.

Yes, I take your point, but I can well imagine the media spinning a progressive sit-out as being a rebellion by the rank-and-file against Obama's LIBERALISM! They're already doing that on health care. When we object, the pollsters spin it as Americans not wanting such a RADICAL plan.

Better to vote green or something that they can't deliberately misconstrue as a rightward shift.

[polichick]

3. Good point - vote for somebody more progressive. nt

[upi402]

5. The media propaganda is key to your argument

and I agree. The people are easily fooled. So how can we start fooling them into acting in their own best interest? You'd think that chickens would stop voting for Colonel Sanders when the oil got hot enough. But chickens seem to have built-in forgetters!

[Cerridwen]

2. One quick point of information, even if the "far left of the left" doesn't

sit it out, do you honestly think any losses won't be spun that way anyway?

[WeDidIt]

4. There's time now to make it known

Fuck us on healthcare and we sit out 2010.

[Cerridwen]

6. Make it known? Yeah, maybe. But make it *reported*? *sigh*

If only.

BTW, I don't sit out elections; just in case anyone was thinking otherwise. As critical as I am of the rigged political process and our gamed and oppressive systems, I still "participate" while working to change; though I'd rather see them torn down.

I'll take the step into anarchy later. *snort*

[Warpy]

7. Uh, I hate to break it to you, Sparky

but it's not just the radical left who sat out the election in 1994, it was ordinary working slobs, the Democratic base, who were all disgusted by the way the party had failed to get health insurance reform out of committee.

It was clear to everybody that the party wasn't going to do a fucking thing for anybody but themselves.

The GOP got in by promising to do something, even if it was the wrong thing, and they followed through on that promise and stayed in control of Congress for 12 years.

And it seems the Democrats haven't learned a damned thing. The party that ignores its base is just not going to stay in power because a demoralized base will not vote. Failing to deliver real reform this time will lead to a bloodbath like that in 1994 and for exactly the same reason.

The far left has nothing to do with this, the need for real health insurance reform is a centrist position.

[Jackpine Radical]

9. You think Rahm gives a shit about the base?

He says the Dems don't have a base. We're nothing but a bunch of special interest groups and dorks that can be manipulated by propaganda if he has enough corporate money to buy the TV time. He ultimately wants to privatize social security, among his other forward-looking notions.

[WeDidIt]

10. Who was talking about the '94 election?

I was talking about the '92 election and the radical religious right sitting it out and letting Bush Sr. lose.

[Warpy]

12. The same thing will happen if the Democratic base sits it out

or didn't you get that part?

Any party that fails to take care of its base is going to lose.

That's rather the point, don't you think?

[Kingofalldems]

8. True--the fat cats laughed at them behind their back

[pipi_k]

11. I think the GOP still don't take the RWs seriously...

USE them for their own purposes? Yes.


Take them seriously? uh...no.


And the Religious Whackos are so obsessed with hating everybody they don't even realize they're being used. Or maybe they don't care....