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t0dd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 03:38 PM
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As Procedural Votes Continue In Senate, Louise Slaughter (D-NY) Says “Kill The Bill”
Source: Firedoglake

The Senate is in the middle of the second of seven procedural votes on health care reform. In the first, lawmakers voted down a point of order on the Constitutionality of the individual mandate proposed by John Ensign and Orrin Hatch. The party-line vote failed, 39-60. Other votes include a series of additional points of order, a final vote on passage of the substitute amendment (basically the entire bill), and a cloture vote on HR 3590, the final procedural hurdle before tomorrow morning’s vote on the bill. All of these are expected to be decided in favor of the Democrats strictly along party lines. The Senate will pass a health care bill tomorrow (UPDATE: And they’ll pass it at 7am ET, not 8am as previously decided).

But Louise Slaughter (D-NY), a co-chair of the Pro-Choice Caucus and the Chair of the House Rules Committee, has laid down a powerful marker, signaling that the Senate’s bill should be defeated, and suggesting that the Congress start over from scratch.

The Senate health care bill is not worthy of the historic vote that the House took a month ago

But under the Senate plan, millions of Americans will be forced into private insurance company plans, which will be subsidized by taxpayers. That alternative will do almost nothing to reform health care but will be a windfall for insurance companies. Is it any surprise that stock prices for some of those insurers are up recently?

I do not want to subsidize the private insurance market; the whole point of creating a government option is to bring prices down. Insisting on a government mandate to have insurance without a better alternative to the status quo is not true reform.

By eliminating the public option, the government program that could spark competition within the health insurance industry, the Senate has ended up with a bill that isn’t worthy of its support.


...

Supporters of the weak Senate bill say “just pass it — any bill is better than no bill.”

I strongly disagree — a conference report is unlikely to sufficiently bridge the gap between these two very different bills.

It’s time that we draw the line on this weak bill and ask the Senate to go back to the drawing board. The American people deserve at least that.


That is much further than any House progressive has yet been willing to go, and it sets up a major problem for Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid as they seek to reconcile the two bills. But fundamentally, Slaughter is negotiating for the best bill possible, and she’s not rolling over to appease the Democratic establishment, the Senate or even the White House. From a policy standpoint, she’s doing what’s right for the bill.

http://news.firedoglake.com/2009/12/23/as-procedural-votes-continue-in-senate-louise-slaughter-d-ny-says-kill-the-bill/
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 03:40 PM
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1. countdown to the raging chorus of *she didn't read the bill* from the COPC
:eyes:
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 03:44 PM
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2. If she had read the bill, she'd know she's full of shit.
Same with you.

You're welcome to continue to ignore reality if you want.
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 03:52 PM
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6. How can there be true
reform w/o The Public Option....putting some competition into the system. And after all isn't that old-time 'capitalism?' Right now, all I see is Collusion among the very few insurance choices available.

Do you have an individual policy w/ say Blue Cross? Compare it to the 'competition.' They're all the same...and very very very expensive.

You got insurance through the Heritage Foundation?
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 03:57 PM
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8. Cardin and Sanders' CHC expansion is much better than the PO.
It's the seed of single-payer for all.

I will most likely be using this service.
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FLAprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 03:58 PM
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10. Yeah right, quit peddling that bullshit. CHC's are NOT a full comprehensive single payer plan.
Edited on Wed Dec-23-09 03:59 PM by FLAprogressive
And if it was, I doubt the physicians for single payer would be saying "kill the bill".
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 04:19 PM
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11. do you get extra points for being SOOOOO predictable?
And when did you and Rove get together for your training sessions?
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 04:46 PM
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15. What are you talking about? I'm a Democrat.
Rove is a neocon.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 03:45 PM
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3. Pure grandstanding. She'll cave after cutting her own deal a la Sen. Nelson.
Just watch and wait.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 04:19 PM
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12. 2nd choral refrain -- same sort of BS as the first
NEXT.....
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 04:35 PM
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14. lol! Stomp your feet all you want. Just watch. She'll cave as soon as she gets her own deal.
Edited on Wed Dec-23-09 04:37 PM by ClarkUSA
The only "BS" are from gullible folks who keep grasping at "Kill the BIll" straws. It ain't happening.
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el_bryanto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 03:46 PM
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4. Nice. It's good to see the House taking a strong position out of the gate
I hope they do reach a compromise, but I'd like to see a compromise that looks more like the house bill than the senate bill.

Bryant
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 03:49 PM
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5. Roger that Teammate
I'm having a hard time disagreeing with MS Slaughter. Change the Senate bill or go back to square one and while we are at it, blame fucking conservatives for this nonsense.
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katandmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 03:56 PM
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7. K&R for Rep. Slaughter
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 03:58 PM
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9. All this will do is force Pelosi to water it down more
and go looking for votes from Blue Dogs.

:eyes:
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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 04:22 PM
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13. Yep. And she will end up having to make matching concessions for
the other side which will weaken things even more.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 06:38 PM
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18. I swear, sometimes purist progressives are their own worst enemies.
Nader proved it in 2000 and the likes of Hamsher and Slaughter are proving it now.
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Wardoc Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 04:50 PM
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16. Looks like I will have someone to donate to if she holds true. One congress member I respect!
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OnceUponTimeOnTheNet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 05:12 PM
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17. Rec. nt.
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