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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 09:32 PM Original message |
I am an Obama supporter and was there from the get go in Iowa.. |
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theophilus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 09:34 PM Response to Original message |
1. I believe this to be the truth. Well done. Thank you. n/t |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 09:35 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Truthiness. nt |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 09:35 PM Response to Original message |
2. That's Bullshit with a capital "B" |
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Electric Monk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 09:37 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Win |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 09:37 PM Response to Reply #2 |
8. Yes you are full of it with a capital B... |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 09:38 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Was that Obama's body double in that video??? |
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Electric Monk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 09:38 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Did you click the link? Video of Obama in his own words. nt |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 09:41 PM Response to Reply #11 |
17. I listened to it yesterday...Again he campaigned on getting health care like the congress has |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 09:42 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. So when he mentioned "a public plan" in a 2007 campaign speech to Planned Parenthood, he wasn't |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 10:36 PM Response to Reply #21 |
66. video: |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 09:39 PM Response to Reply #2 |
13. You must think DUers are pretty stupid |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 09:41 PM Response to Reply #13 |
19. So the 2007 speech at Planned Parenthood (which is in the video) doesn't count? |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 09:46 PM Response to Reply #19 |
29. Oh you are saying there is a kernal of truth in the pile of lies given out |
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rwheeler31 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 10:00 PM Response to Reply #19 |
48. ok it is bed time |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 09:45 PM Response to Reply #2 |
27. Actually, that says a public plan, not a public option |
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tonysam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 09:49 PM Response to Reply #27 |
34. He mentioned public option, too. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 11:35 PM Response to Reply #34 |
72. There's no doubt Howard Dean campaigned on subsidized insurance |
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theophilus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 09:50 PM Response to Reply #2 |
37. All I know is that many on this board kept demanding that Mr. O state that he |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-25-09 12:45 AM Response to Reply #2 |
77. Some people hear only what they want to hear, too. |
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UTUSN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 09:36 PM Response to Original message |
4. I wasn't with him in Iowa, but I *am* NOW. n/t |
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pokercat999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 09:37 PM Response to Original message |
5. I watched a speech where Obama said he was FOR single |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 09:37 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. that was before Obama became bought and paid for nt |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 10:15 PM Response to Reply #9 |
54. I believe he was bought and paid for before that. He told people what they wanted to hear |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 09:47 PM Response to Reply #5 |
30. He is still for single payer |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 11:41 PM Response to Reply #5 |
74. That was when he was a lowly state senator |
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rwheeler31 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 09:37 PM Response to Original message |
7. You are correct. |
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live love laugh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 09:39 PM Response to Original message |
12. Thr revisionists want to make him look bad. nt |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 09:40 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Yes they keep running 2009 videos and quotes claiming it was his campaign. |
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Electric Monk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 09:41 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Isn't that worse? That's not an out. |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 09:44 PM Response to Reply #16 |
25. Nope, that's what he wanted, not what he campaigned on or promised |
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Electric Monk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 09:49 PM Response to Reply #25 |
36. Nice parsing, right up there with "'Mission Accomplished' only meant this single mission" |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 09:51 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. What about people blinded by their ideology? What do they get? |
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Electric Monk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 10:21 PM Response to Reply #39 |
61. You can look in a mirror. Tell us what you see. nt |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 09:52 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. This makes as much sense, as the when the looney tunes went nuts over guns and religion etc |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 09:42 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. What you describe is worse, then, because the more RECENT video shows he wanted this 'robust' option |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 09:45 PM Response to Reply #20 |
28. Nope, only to the "he's a liar" group. It just shows he wanted a PO |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 09:56 PM Response to Reply #14 |
45. Yeah, darn those videos and quotes. |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 09:57 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Only thing I don't like is people trying to dishonestly pass off 2009 video as campaign promises |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 09:59 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. I used to not like lying politicians. |
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Electric Monk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 10:00 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. So now you do concede that he did in fact say that. We're making progress. nt |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 10:03 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. Progress will be when you apologize for false accusations |
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Electric Monk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 10:18 PM Response to Reply #51 |
58. link please |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 11:21 PM Response to Reply #58 |
69. here |
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Electric Monk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-25-09 06:59 AM Response to Reply #69 |
80. Funny. Try this one instead |
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Electric Monk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-25-09 10:34 AM Response to Reply #69 |
83. Or this one. Here you go, NJmaverick, go take on William Rivers Pitt if you dare. Have at it. |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 09:43 PM Original message |
LOL |
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tonysam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 09:48 PM Response to Reply #12 |
33. It's not revisionism if the words are coming out of his own mouth. |
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lunatica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 09:40 PM Response to Original message |
15. Well then he's absolved because everyone knows politicians always keep their campaign promises |
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tblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 10:16 PM Response to Reply #15 |
56. What was his campaign slogan again? "Yes we...Yes we...?" |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 09:41 PM Response to Original message |
18. 'He would love a public option, we would all love a public option.He wanted to sign a public option' |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 09:43 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. You have to ask him that yourself... |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 09:44 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Well you seem to be in his head! |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 09:48 PM Response to Reply #18 |
32. Because IT CAN'T PASS |
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tblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 10:02 PM Response to Reply #18 |
50. What does it matter what the President "would love"? |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 10:03 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. I would love to be 6'3" and 175 pounds. |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 09:43 PM Response to Original message |
22. someone's been nipping at the spiked koolaid a wee bit too much |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 09:44 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. You can pull it out of anything out of thin air and try and apply it to Iowa.. I was there..were you |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 11:35 PM Response to Reply #26 |
73. is this the political version of *I know you are, but what am I*? |
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tonysam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 09:51 PM Response to Reply #22 |
40. It's there, and it's not just from 2009, either. |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 09:54 PM Response to Reply #40 |
44. I am in Iowa.. and I was there, and I KNOW what he campaigned on .. period.. |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 09:53 PM Response to Reply #22 |
42. But his own words are not a reliable source. |
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tonysam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 09:47 PM Response to Original message |
31. More weasel words. Yes, he did. |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 09:49 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. BULL HOCKEY.. |
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Condem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 10:19 PM Response to Reply #35 |
60. Hey, Peace. |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 10:27 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. Hey Condem! Merry Christmas to you too!.. how you liking this weather? |
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Condem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 10:36 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. Best wishes, Peace. |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 10:26 PM Response to Reply #35 |
62. You say that a lot. |
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OnceUponTimeOnTheNet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 09:51 PM Response to Original message |
38. Iowa and Hope running thru the streets |
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tblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 10:08 PM Response to Reply #38 |
53. There it goes! |
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goclark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 09:53 PM Response to Original message |
43. I am a Senior and I've heard so many Presidents campaign |
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Kalun D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 11:29 PM Response to Reply #43 |
71. The difference |
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goclark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-25-09 11:43 AM Response to Reply #71 |
84. I'll stick with my view nt |
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chill_wind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 10:16 PM Response to Original message |
55. Sounds like a few folks are experiencing some sharp cognitive dissonance. |
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HipChick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 10:18 PM Response to Original message |
57. Thank you for posting this.. seems people heard what they wanted to hear on his campaign |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 10:19 PM Response to Original message |
59. Let's face it.. |
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Orangepeel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 10:31 PM Response to Original message |
64. That's kind of silly. He fucked up the quote to the Washington Post. Big deal. |
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Patriot 76 (95 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 10:48 PM Response to Original message |
67. Some days it's like the Twilight Zone around here. |
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Electric Monk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 10:51 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. Feel free to elaborate on those sentiments with your 18th post |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 11:22 PM Response to Original message |
70. oh boy |
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notesdev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-24-09 11:43 PM Response to Original message |
75. Obama must have a policy talent for "speaking in tongues" |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-25-09 12:40 AM Response to Original message |
76. Oh, good. Cuz I was hoping we'd elected another slick, "meaning of IS" con artist. |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-25-09 10:30 AM Response to Reply #76 |
82. :) |
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TomCADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-25-09 12:51 AM Response to Original message |
78. Agreed - The Nontroversy Folks Are Pulling Single References To A Public Plan In Long Speeches |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-25-09 12:52 AM Response to Original message |
79. At this point, it really doesn't matter |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-25-09 07:02 AM Response to Original message |
81. . |
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