The CIA black budget is annually in the vicinity of 1.1 trillion dollars

[NNN0LHI]

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Central_Intelligence_Agency

Black budget

"The CIA has the unique legal ability among all US government departments and agencies to generate funds through appropriations of other federal government agencies and other sources 'without regard to any provisions of law' and without regard to the intent behind Congressional appropriations. Every year, billions of dollars of Congressional appropriations are diverted from their Congressionally sanctioned purposes to the CIA and DoD based intelligence agencies without knowledge of the public and with the collusion of Congressional leaders. The covert world of ‘black programs’ acts with virtual impunity, overseen and regulated by itself, funding itself through secret slush funds, and is free of the limitations that come from Congressional oversight, proper auditing procedures and public scrutiny." The CIA black budget is annually in the vicinity of 1.1 trillion dollars – a truly staggering figure when one considers that the DoD budget for 2004 will be approximately 380 billion dollars.

[tekisui]

1. All that and the nation still cowers to powder in undies.

[FBaggins]

2. That's ridiculous

The entire discretionary portion of the federal budget is barely that high.

They may be able to transfer funds from other parts of the government, but it would be pretty obvious if they took it ALL.

[Vincardog]

3. Prove that. Show me any piece of documentation of what exactly the entire Criminal Intent Activity

budget is

[TheWraith]

7. Prove that it's $1.1 trillion. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.

If you claim that the guy sitting with you at the theater is God, then it's not incumbent upon somebody to prove otherwise.

[FBaggins]

16. I wasn't the one who claimed a dollar amount

I simply compared the claimed amount to the total discretionary budget to show that t was a ridiculous claim. The burden of proof is with the OP to show anything even CLOSE to the claimed figure.

[lapfog_1]

4. I don't know their source on the assertion that the CIA

is spending $1.1 Trillion, but I call "bullshit". The entire federal budget (including those "black ops") is $3.55 T for FY 2010.

They are claiming that the CIA alone is spending about 1/3 of the federal budget.

I don't think that the CIA is appropriating money from the big ticket areas of the budget, Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, DoD. Those alone account for $2.1 T of the total $3.55 T.

Here is the breakdown by agency:

The President's budget for 2010 totals $3.55 trillion. Percentages in parentheses indicate percentage change compared to 2009. This budget request is broken down by the following expenditures:

* Mandatory spending: $2.184 trillion (+15.6%)
o $695 billion (+4.9%) - Social Security
o $453 billion (+6.6%) - Medicare
o $290 billion (+12.0%) - Medicaid
o $0 billion (-100%) - Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP)
o $0 billion (-100%) - Financial stabilization efforts
o $11 billion (+275%) - Potential disaster costs
o $571 billion (-15.2%) - Other mandatory programs
o $164 billion (+18.0%) - Interest on National Debt

* Discretionary spending: $1.368 trillion (+13.1%)
o $663.7 billion (+12.7%) - Department of Defense (including Overseas Contingency Operations)
o $78.7 billion (-1.7%) - Department of Health and Human Services
o $72.5 billion (+2.8%) - Department of Transportation
o $52.5 billion (+10.3%) - Department of Veterans Affairs
o $51.7 billion (+40.9%) - Department of State and Other International Programs
o $47.5 billion (+18.5%) - Department of Housing and Urban Development
o $46.7 billion (+12.8%) - Department of Education
o $42.7 billion (+1.2%) - Department of Homeland Security
o $26.3 billion (-0.4%) - Department of Energy
o $26.0 billion (+8.8%) - Department of Agriculture
o $23.9 billion (-6.3%) - Department of Justice
o $18.7 billion (+5.1%) - National Aeronautics and Space Administration
o $13.8 billion (+48.4%) - Department of Commerce
o $13.3 billion (+4.7%) - Department of Labor
o $13.3 billion (+4.7%) - Department of the Treasury
o $12.0 billion (+6.2%) - Department of the Interior
o $10.5 billion (+34.6%) - Environmental Protection Agency
o $9.7 billion (+10.2%) - Social Security Administration
o $7.0 billion (+1.4%) - National Science Foundation
o $5.1 billion (-3.8%) - Corps of Engineers
o $5.0 billion (+100%) - National Infrastructure Bank
o $1.1 billion (+22.2%) - Corporation for National and Community Service
o $0.7 billion (0.0%) - Small Business Administration
o $0.6 billion (-14.3%) - General Services Administration
o $19.8 billion (+3.7%) - Other Agencies
o $105 billion - Other

[Don Caballero]

5. Total BS

That number is so ridiculous. No evidence.

[Overseas]

6. K&R. //nt

[kentuck]

8. I had read someplace that it was nearly $40 billion per year..

But that was a few years ago. I imagine it has gone up .

[NutmegYankee]

9. Bullshit. That would be 1/3rd of the entire budget. nt

[mopinko]

10. cite from the source-

which, btw, is a wiki. just sayin'

Michael E. Salla, "The Black Budget Report: An Investigation into the CIA’s ‘Black Budget’ and the Second Manhattan Project," Center for Global Peace/School of International Service, American University, November 23, 2003 (Revised February 5, 2004).

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[Dreamer Tatum]

12. Ridiculous horseshit until you prove it's true nt

[Rebubula]

13. That Figure is unlikely...

...BUT, if you want to read a GREAT book about this - find 'Blank Check' by Tim Weiner.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

14. No doubt all of it spent on the kind of humanitarian projects the CIA is famous for.

Murder, assassination, subversion, torture, all those Real American Values.

[midnight]

15. Couldn't that money finance the health care budget?