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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 03:57 PM
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We heard the tea-baggers would be the death of the GOP - yet they're
motivated and out there and they're pushing Republicans into seats that should have been safe. Meanwhile, the progressives get told to sit down, shut up and not embarrass the Dems for being so fringey and over-reaching. And the Dems are losing seats because they keep going to Washington and acting like Republicans.

When Republicults held the reins, they got things done with much smaller numbers - mainly because they were loud and shouted down any criticism.

Maybe, we ought to be pushing more loudly instead. Instead of offering excuses, demand that they support the platform.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 03:58 PM
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1. I think the Tea Baggers get lots of $$$ and support -- we don't. nt
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 03:59 PM
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2. The Tea Baggers get a lot of media coverage and
we don't :-(.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 06:18 PM
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17. Teabagger republicans are corporate/party-funded
Here's a prime example from the summer-nonsense:

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/SoCalDem/174

AMA senior policy advisor/admin of a site with racist Obama pic
Posted by SoCalDem in General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009)
Thu Aug 06th 2009, 03:30 PM

The screen-cap
?click to see


the site:http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=44596143069

another site:

www.American Liberty Alliance.com

corrine williams:


http://www.chicagoyrs.com/leadership-team
Corrine Williams
Communications Director
corrineannwilliams gmail.com

Corrine received a B.A. in Political Science with minors in German and Women's Studies from the University of Miami in Florida. While at Miami, Corrine served as the Vice President and Co-Founding Board Member of the Miami Chapter of the College Republicans and Delegate to the College Republican National Convention.

She has a Masters Degree in Public Policy with a concentration in Health Policy from George Washington University where she received the Wollcott Fellowship Award and National Federation of Republican Women's Pathfinder Scholarship. Corrine worked for Congressman John Shadegg, the House Republican Policy Committee and and then Chairman, Congressman Adam H. Putnam.

In June of 2008 Corrine accepted a position with the American Medical Association as a Senior Policy Analyst and moved to Chicago.
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Recess Rally: A Tax Day Tea Party for the Healthcare Fight ...
Jul 28, 2009 ... If you would like to know more about the American Liberty Alliance please contact Corrine Williams at (615) 547-2378 x 19

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/SoCalDem/173

Corrine Williams wants you to call her (policy analyst for AMA)
Posted by SoCalDem in General Discussion
Thu Aug 06th 2009, 08:18 AM
THIS WAS POSTED ONLINE..FOR ALL TO SEE..


http://www.chicagoyrs.com/leadership-team
Corrine Williams

Communications Director
corrineannwilliams gmail.com

Corrine received a B.A. in Political Science with minors in German and Women's Studies from the University of Miami in Florida. While at Miami, Corrine served as the Vice President and Co-Founding Board Member of the Miami Chapter of the College Republicans and Delegate to the College Republican National Convention.

She has a Masters Degree in Public Policy with a concentration in Health Policy from George Washington University where she received the Wollcott Fellowship Award and National Federation of Republican Women's Pathfinder Scholarship. Corrine worked for Congressman John Shadegg, the House Republican Policy Committee and and then Chairman, Congressman Adam H. Putnam.

In June of 2008 Corrine accepted a position with the American Medical Association as a Senior Policy Analyst and moved to Chicago.
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Recess Rally: A Tax Day Tea Party for the Healthcare Fight ...
Jul 28, 2009 ... If you would like to know more about the American Liberty Alliance please contact Corrine Williams at (615) 547-2378 x 19

along with:

The people behind the tour… « American Liberty Tour
American Liberty Alliance -Eric Odom -Ken Marrero -Amy Hagerstrom -Sarah Desprat -Corrine Williams. American Majority (Alternating crew members) -Ned Ryun ...
americanlibertytour.com/2009/.../the-people-behind-the-tour/ -

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July 29, 2009 Newsletter « American Liberty Alliance
I am looking forward to hearing from all of you! For Liberty! -Corrine Williams Communications Director American Liberty Alliance ...
americanlibertyalliance.com/news/.../july-29-2009-newsletter/ - Cached - Similar -
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July 14th Update « American Liberty Alliance
Jul 13, 2009 ... My name is Corrine Williams and I have just joined the American Liberty Alliance (ALA) team as the Communications Director. ...
americanlibertyalliance.com/news/2009.../july-14th-update/ - Cached - Similar -
Show more results from americanlibertyalliance.com
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The people behind the tour… « American Liberty Tour
American Liberty Alliance -Eric Odom -Ken Marrero -Amy Hagerstrom -Sarah Desprat -Corrine Williams. American Majority (Alternating crew members) -Ned Ryun ...
americanlibertytour.com/2009/.../the-people-behind-the-tour/ - Cached - Similar -
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Lawmakers Will Face Tea Parties, And More, In August - The ...
... of the nation's 435 congressional districts August 22, according to American Liberty Alliance Communications Director Corrine Williams. ...
politics.theatlantic.com/.../lawmakers_will_face_tea_parties_and_more_in_august.php - Cached - Similar -
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CYRs Talk Healthcare w/ CNN - AOL Video
CYR Communications Director Corrine Williams talks about Health-care with CNN on behalf of the American Liberty Alliance. ... CYRs Obama Healthcare CNN ...
video.aol.co.uk/video-detail/cyrs-talk.../4193533459 - 14 hours ago - Similar -
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CYR Summer Membership Event a Success! | Chicago Young Republicans
Jun 25, 2009 ... CYR Communications Director Corrine Williams talks about Health-care with CNN on behalf of the American Liberty Alliance. ...
www.chicagoyrs.com/membership-event - Cached - Similar -
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CNN.com - Transcripts
Aug 5, 2009 ... CORRINE WILLIAMS, AMERICAN LIBERTY ALLIANCE: I don't like the idea of the government saying, you know, this is what we're going to let you ...
transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0908/05/sitroom.01.html - Similar -
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Recess Rally on NewsTrendz - Web Results - Discover what everyone ...
Aug 5, 2009 ... Recess Rally: A Tax Day Tea Party for the Healthcare Fight By Corrine Williams at July 28th, 2009. ... Fellow Liberty Loving Patriots, This morning the American Liberty Alliance announced the launch of a nationwide ...
newstrendz.com/trend/29385/recess-rally/search - Similar -
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fav.or.it - Lawmakers Will Face Tea Parties, And More, In August
... a Facebook group of 50000 tea partiers handled by American Liberty Alliance. ... to American Liberty Alliance Communications Director Corrine Williams. ...
fav.or.it/.../lawmakers-will-face-tea-parties-and-more-in-august - Cached - Similar -

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Do we know "where" these people are? physically?

Their photos are here:
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=htt...

Perhaps they need some sign-carriers at THEIR venues?

They posted this online, so they are in no way "shy" about people knowing who they are or what they are doing..

just sayin'.....
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 08:25 PM
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19. Thanks for posting this
I think it's a good time to start a thread with all this great info again :-).
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 04:01 PM
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3. They fuel themselves off generalized populist rage.
That's why it seems like such a motley crew. It's easy to cherry pick the real nutbags, but understand that the rage is real. Dick's Armey is just tapping into it.

Now if we can get a coherent angry mob together, we could really do something constructive with it...
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 04:03 PM
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4. Wow, a whole 5 minutes before an UnRec - they must have been on lunch break
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 04:03 PM
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5. Scott Brown is not a teabagger. He is far too moderate for them.
Edited on Thu Jan-21-10 04:03 PM by Jennicut
They were sold on him by the Rethug party.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 05:28 PM
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7. But he went to their teabagger rallies and let them think he was one of them
It was actually quite brilliant campaigning.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 05:58 PM
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12. Yup. He was very good at campaigning to different groups.
I have to give him props for that.
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 05:27 PM
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6. Scott Brown attributed his election to Independent voters...
BOSTON — Scott Brown, a little-known Republican state senator, rode an old pickup truck and a growing sense of unease among independent voters to an extraordinary upset Tuesday night when he was elected to fill the Senate seat that was long held by Edward M. Kennedy in the overwhelmingly Democratic state of Massachusetts.

***snip***

“Tonight the independent voice of Massachusetts has spoken,” Mr. Brown told his cheering supporters in a victory speech, standing in front of a backdrop that said “The People’s Seat.”

***snip***

Mr. Brown was able to appeal to independents who were anxious about the economy and concerned about the direction taken by Democrats, now that they control both Beacon Hill and Washington. He rallied his supporters when he said, at the last debate, that he was not running for Mr. Kennedy’s seat but for “the people’s seat.”

***snip***

Mr. Brown ran strongest in the suburbs of Boston, where the independent voters who make up a majority in Massachusetts turned out in large numbers. Ms. Coakley did best in urban areas, winning overwhelmingly in Boston and running ahead in Springfield, Worcester, Fall River and New Bedford, but her margins were not large enough to carry her to victory.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/20/us/politics/20election.html


I'm noticing a lot of dissatisfaction with BOTH major parties. More and more of the people I talk to are saying, "Let's just throw all the Bastards out."

There is absolutely no doubt that the voters were pissed at the Republicans after eight years of total mismanagement. Obama promised change and hope. Unfortunately, he turned his flagship of change, Universal Heathcare, over to Congress. The backroom deals and the lack of transparency have occupied the first year of his administration and the result looks like a bill written by the "for profit" healthcare insurance industry.

Meanwhile, despite the best efforts of the administration the unemployment rate is still high and banks are still foreclosing on homes. Many people suspect that the bailout was directed at helping the big corporations and the banks with little concern for the average person on Main Street America. People are beginning to believe that we are a country of the Big Corporations, by the Big Corporations and for the Big Corporations. They also suspect that those we elect are bought and paid for by the Big Corporations.

Massachusetts did send a message, but I don't believe for a minute that it was pro-Republican. The voters want a voice and if the Republicans and the Democrats continue to ignore this fact, both parties will suffer in the next two elections. The voters want to see the economy improve and not just for the rich. The voters would like to see the sky rocketing cost of heathcare curbed and improved coverage for all people. Defending the U.S. against terrorist attacks is extremely important but so are individual rights and freedom.

The voters want their opinions to be considered as important and worthy of consideration. They will look for candidates who will respect their views and until they find those politicians, they will continue to replace the politicians who merely back extremely unpopular party politics.

Obama is a great communicator but his mistake was let the Democratically controlled Congress push through programs that failed to accomplish the concerns of the voters.

But often, a great President has a bad first year. It's not easy to be President especially when the prior administration managed to totally screw up the economy. He needs to live up to his campaign promises of change and hope and transparent government. I have confidence that he will realize this and turn out to be one of the truly great Presidents in American history.

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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 05:29 PM
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9. Wow, thank the suburbs, of course. They may have not meant to be pro-Repuke, but they were.
fuck them
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 05:37 PM
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10. When they say throw the bastards out...
I wonder who they think they will get in another party from what I can see it will be the same thing. The people who will run to the so called other party will all go to that party they will be Dems and Repugs.

This new group will start fighting because they will then see that they don't agree on anything but something that is going on at the moment,somethings minor or nothing that has to do with us long term..Then that group will fracture and splinter and nothing will continue to get done.
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 06:04 PM
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13. Sadly, I suspect that you may be right ...
Plus often the "throw the bastards out" statement only applies to those elected officials that are outside of the voting precinct of the person making the statement. People often like their elected representatives.

I tend to disapprove of term limits as truly great politicians like Ted Kennedy would have had to retire from office.

Perhaps limiting campaign financing might work, but it always seems to fail in real life.

But still, through our history we have often been able to implement change by our vote. As long as our voting system is not controlled but is honest and fair, the voters have a chance to make wise decisions.



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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 05:55 PM
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11. How long has Congress' overall approval rating been at Cheney levels?
It may finally be the time when we get rid of the incumbents that everyone loves to bitch about but sends back to office time and time again. It's not hard to see why they constantly sell us all out with impunity - over time, we (the voters as a whole) have not punished them by replacing them when they failed to work on our behalf
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 06:08 PM
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14. The reality is that the voters tend to like their elected officials ...
and hate politicians who they can't effect with their vote.

Sometimes a third party appears but often backfires.
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TxRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 05:29 PM
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8. Don't underestimate the anger directed at both parties
From independents, teabaggers etc.

It's growing right along with the unemployment rate, foreclosures and bank executives bonuses.
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 06:09 PM
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15. They are still planning primary challenges
When they push far right challengers into general elections, it makes Republican chances weaker.
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 06:21 PM
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18. There's a teabagger here who is going to primary Virginia Foxx - because
she's not "conservative" enough for him.
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 06:18 PM
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16. Tea-baggers *are* repukes..
They are just a bunch of whiny repukes that don't have the balls to say they hate the fact that there is a black man in the White House and they use this "teabaggin" shit to hide their racist punk-asses.

Fuck the teabaggers, they will eventually go away and become repukes again.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 08:29 PM
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20. They are seen as America's Sweethearts.
They are seen as the populists, which is not accurate.

And somewhere along the line, the progressives/liberals' stand on issues are misunderstood by the majority of Americans.
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