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LeftyAndProud60 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 12:31 AM
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Why isn't Dental Insurance talked about with HCR?
I don't have Dental Insurance and I know I need a few teeth pulled. It's like I'm just screwed, and have to find a way to deal with it.
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 12:35 AM
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1. Because they don't care about your fucking teeth
Sorry, but this strikes a sore nerve with me as well. I've never understood why you need separate insurance to cover your teeth and gums. They're just as much as part of your body as your heart, lungs, spleen, liver, stomach, brain, etc. Bad dental hygiene can have a very serious effect on your overall health, and can even kill you in extreme cases.

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LeftyAndProud60 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 12:37 AM
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3. And the prices of dental work w/o insurance is impossible for normal people to afford. nt
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 12:40 AM
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6. And there's no such thing as a dental emergency room
At least if you're having any other kind of medical emergency, by law the Emergency Room has to treat you regardless of your insurance status or ability to pay. Sure, you may find yourself deep in debt and have your credit ruined for years, but you can at least get treatment. Not so with dental emergencies.
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HowHasItComeToThis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 01:14 AM
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13. OBSCENE BUSINESS MODEL
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DesertFlower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 01:37 AM
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17. we're paying $79 a month. there are
deductibles and co-pays.
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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 12:38 AM
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4. Especially since gum diseases can lead to Heart diseases
supposedly
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 12:42 AM
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7. Absolutely they can
I was watching an episode of "Dr. G: Medical Examiner", there was a case where someone's poor dental health wound up causing them to die from heart disease.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 01:26 AM
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14. Infectious endocardidis, mainly
I worked on a study of this about 15 years ago. It's a nasty, subtle, often unrecognized form of heart disease, yet it's so easy to treat.

Other diseases can also be started/amplified by bad teeth. I'm surprised herpesviruses haven't been implicated.

--d!
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 12:43 AM
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9. I read that many ancient egyptians died from tooth decay.
Apparently they liked to eat sweets, and probably lacked dental care.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 02:50 AM
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18. I have head that really bad tooth decay can damage your heart.
If you get an infection in a tooth, the infection can enter your blood stream. I don't know whether that is true, but it makes sense to me.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 04:50 AM
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22. dental can be a huge part of mental health, too
Edited on Wed Feb-10-10 04:50 AM by Skittles
it is painful to not feel free to smile and can savage your personal life and be detrimental in job interviews
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ChicagoSuz219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 12:37 AM
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2. I think only the Cadillac plans...
have dental & eye care coverage. You can get separate dental insurance privately and it doesn't cover all that much.

In Chicago, the city hospital (Stroger) will pull them at sliding scale costs. They don't do anything else, though.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 12:39 AM
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5. because they only like to fuck up one thing at a time
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 01:02 AM
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11. LOL. DUzy.
:rofl: :thumbsup:

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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 12:43 AM
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8. It's a hold over from the days during which dental was considered
less-than "medical" care.

Should you ever have some free time, I suggest you search around the archives at Time Magazine. Time, was and is, right leaning. Back about the teens and 20s you'll see the AMA coming out against "socialized" medicine and cutting its teeth on slamming the crap out of non-AMA physicians and practitioners. It'll be combined with the demonization of "socialism" and "communism."

Why does Time Magazine matter? Back when this country was much smaller, Time held a lofty position of catapulting promoting the status quo.

It's quite enlightening.

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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 01:04 AM
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12. Isn't it amazing how the RW loves certain UNIONS.
Those that protect the interests of wealthy white dudes, that is.
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 12:57 AM
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10. They make tons of money on Dental. More than cosmetic.
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kas125 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 01:30 AM
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15. The way they've made dental care too expensive for normal
people to afford seems just criminal to me. I need SO much dental work done that it's ridiculous. I can't afford it, so I just wait for my teeth to kill me and every day that I wake up and am not dead yet, I'm surprised and happy...
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DesertFlower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 01:36 AM
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16. we pay almost as much for
dental insurance as for health care. the coverage is not great. in fact, next year we are not going to renew it.

i have a friend who used to get his dental work done at a dental college.

my niece is studying to be a hygienist. it's 10 bucks to get your teeth cleaned and $2.50 for x-rays.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 03:00 AM
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19. dental and mental health care are often excluded
and if offered, cost a LOT for most people who even try to use the coverage.

I guess the powers that be have decided that teeth and brains are not important:(
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AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 03:28 AM
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20. I have an infected molar, but despite the antibiotics I'm still running a fever
I got a price quote from the local dental school; it was a minimum of $1800 to get a root canal, another $1300 for a crown, and the soonest appointment was in April. The cost is more than I can borrow from my parents.

People can't go into septic shock from an abscessed tooth, can they?

Tucker
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JoeyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 03:43 AM
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21. You may need a different antibiotic
or a higher dose of the one you're on, or to be on more than one at a time. For some reason dentists seem to give the antibiotics that are most likely to encounter resistance because they've been overused for decades.

Yes, sepsis can be a danger from a badly infected tooth. It's rare, though.
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