Boom: Honda Recalls Killer Airbags

[divideandconquer]

Boom: Honda Recalls Killer Airbags
By Bertel Schmitt on February 10, 2010

Honda said it will recall another roughly 378,000 vehicles in the U.S. to fix potentially faulty airbag systems that are linked to at least one known fatality and 11 injuries in the U.S., says the Nikkei <sub>.

That brings the number of airbag-related recalled Honda and Acura models to more than 826,000. Honda said some airbags in its older vehicles deploy with too much pressure, and send metal fragments flying into the car.
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[StClone]

1. Honda, Toyota, Hyundai

All make super reliable cars. These recalls are not aberrations but the nature of mass producing a device nearly as complicated as jet fighter without the redundancy.

If you want a decent-looking, super-reliable, low-cost-of-operating, lower end of the cost scale, value-holding car the 2010 Sonatas are still on the lot. South Koreans are producing very high quality autos for the price.

http://www.truedelta.com/car-reliability.php?stage=powertrains&brand=Hyundai&modelCode=121&email=Guest&session_code=

[divideandconquer]

2. We have a 2006 Sonata in our company fleet and it is pure junk

With 79k miles, it looks like it has 179k miles, it's the penalty box. We have a 2007 Chrysler Sebring with 81k miles using the same motor and platform, everyone fights to get that car.

[StClone]

3. Did you read my post? I said 2010.

[divideandconquer]

4. 2010's haven't been out long enough to say they're reliable

2009 Nissan Altima and Chrysler Sebring sedan tied in JDPower initial quality in this class.
<http://www.allpar.com/news/index.php/2009/06/chrysler-comments-on-j-d-power>

[StClone]

6. The 2010 is a 2009 with all the bugs worked out

[CreekDog]

10. JD Power?

I thought we were talking about reliability. :wtf:

[Codeine]

5. How can you say a 2010 car is "value-holding"?

there hasn't been time enough to even begin to make such a determination.

The Sonata sold in 2008 for around 20 grand, and will net about 10 grand dealer trade-in now. I wouldn't call that great resale value for a two-year-old car.

[StClone]

7. I am citing what several

Experts have stated as a future trend. I drive a Ford and am looking for a new car maybe Ford, Honda or Hyundai. Also, my son is a Physicist/Computer expert and in his work was down grading Toyota over a year ago and giving good marks for the other three for engineering, cost and quality. It is an expert opinion that Hyundai is a now a quality name.

Lastly Hyundai is the lowest priced of the three.

[Tesha]

9. "Half value" is about par for the course for a two-year-old car, isn't it?

That's about what Mr. Tesha and I expect to pay
whenever we buy one of our typical "lease turnbacks".

Tesha

[Codeine]

11. It certainly is average,

and therefore does not represent an especially "value-holding" vehicle. It's a strictly average car on par with any number of other low-priced econo-boxes, many of which are made by unionized American labor.

[Dappleganger]

12. For people like us who never buy new cars that's a great value.

If I had 10 grand to plunk down on a nearly-new car I'd go for that over a Toyota in a heartbeat.

[Codeine]

13. I prefer used myself as well.

Buying depreciation has always struck me as silly. I still buy UAW, however.

[Dappleganger]

14. That's how we did my T&C Chrysler.

It was two years old and bought through the dealership. We did have to replace the transmission unfortunately at nearly 100,000 miles but otherwise at 128,000 it is going very strong for a 2001 that's driven every day. It's about the most comfortable vehicle I've ever driven and definitely the most convenient for our family of 6.

[Codeine]

15. It's odd that the 2001

Town and Country looks nicer than the current model. The design team did not distinguish themselves on the newer look.

[Dappleganger]

16. Your observation is dead-on...

The newest models lost that classy high-end look, unfortunately.

[Romulox]

8. This post isn't even logical. Toyota had the most recalled cars in 2009, bar none.

No other marks got passes on the types of defects that Toyota has produced in their recent cars. So your "everybody does it!" defense falls flat.

[ddeclue]

17. Hardly "as sophisticated as a jet fighter"..

you let me know when I can buy a car that can go Mach 2, blow up other cars on the freeway 100 miles away, lets me see through the fog with synthetic aperture radar, is radar invisible itself, has sophisticated autopilot functions that can drive me from my driveway to Cleveland Ohio, allows me to refuel the car in motion on the freeway from a tanker truck, has armor for the driver and ejection seats in the event of a crash.

:rofl:

Hyundai is a low end car - you get what you pay for. Toyota should do better for what they charge but they've not been keeping up with American producers in the last 10 years.

[Codeine]

18. Don't look now

but that Kia Soul has a radar lock-on and is firing Sidewinders! Deploy chaff! High G turn!! :rofl:

[lib_n_proud7650]

19. yikes! scary