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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 10:00 PM
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"The Bill I Sign MUST Include the Public Option"
Edited on Wed Feb-24-10 10:26 PM by Bluebear
Obama Demands: The Bill I Sign Must Include Public Option
By Brian Beutler - July 20, 2009, 10:16AM

While we're talking health care reform: In his weekly radio address on Saturday, President Obama did what he's refused to do all along--he said the public option isn't an option at all.



http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/07/obama-demands-the-bill-i-sign-must-include-public-option.php
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 10:03 PM
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1. That's good news
It'll help me get treatment for the whiplash I've suffered trying to follow this damn thing.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 10:04 PM
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3. It's dated July 20th....nt
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 10:16 PM
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13. Doh!
Add an eye exam to my list of things to do.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 10:19 PM
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14. But your original comment still holds. nt
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 10:31 PM
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23. The last I heard,
neither the House nor Senate bill requires "coverage" for adult vision or dental.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 10:35 PM
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26. I see.
Or I don't.


Gosh! I just can't make up my mind!
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 10:04 PM
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2. That was then
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 10:04 PM
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4. And now is now. We've been played. nt
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 10:05 PM
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6. One could certainly draw that conclusion
x(
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 10:06 PM
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7. Corporatism trumping Populism...nothing new
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-25-10 11:42 AM
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46.  We were played and they were paid...off.
Edited on Thu Feb-25-10 11:43 AM by SammyWinstonJack
x( :shrug:
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piratefish08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 10:05 PM
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5. quick! look over there.........
now what were you saying?......
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 10:06 PM
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8. Deleted message
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piratefish08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 10:07 PM
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9. ouch
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 10:08 PM
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10. That Was Before The Republicans Scared The Shit Out Of The Democrats...
And we the people got left in the lurch...

Sigh...

:shrug:
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-25-10 11:25 AM
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43. sorry -- I'm not giving the dems or Obama a pass because they were *skeerd* by Republicans
That's yet more *amateur thespian politics*. Good excuse to fall back to what they always planned, which is a bail out of the insurance industry.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-25-10 03:32 PM
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51. Aw. Poor babies are askeered of der pretty bipartisanship.
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 10:09 PM
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11. Depends on what "must" means
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 10:43 PM
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27. LOL!
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 11:13 PM
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30. :nodding:
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 11:13 PM
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31. :nodding:
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 10:14 PM
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12. !
Check out this video on the "Cadillac Tax":

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x420430



"I am not a crook."

"I did not have sex with THAT woman."

"I did not campaign on a Public Option."






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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 10:19 PM
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15. But there has been lots of HYPE & CHANGE since July 2009. n/t
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Better Today Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 10:24 PM
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16. unrec for link only OP
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 10:26 PM
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17. I'm crushed. I will unrec you for not knowing the quote, deal?
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 10:29 PM
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18. No sweat, I canceled out the unrec with a rec.
:hi:
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 10:30 PM
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21. May stars fall on you!
:)
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-25-10 09:07 PM
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57. me too!! a big Rec from me!! eom
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 11:10 PM
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29. I know there were words in the OP! n/t
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-25-10 09:55 PM
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59. Thank you for reminding me to click on rec!
Much appreciated!

:evilgrin:
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 10:30 PM
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19. We have to let that go. It ain't gonna happen. Unless it does. We'll see. nt
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DiverDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 10:30 PM
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20. Recomended
to counter your unrec.
Yeah, it's a bit lazy not to cut and paste some words, but the info is there, just click the link.
It's more important that it's brought to our attention then not.
Is this what is happening to other posts that are just fine, yet have 0< on them?
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 10:31 PM
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22. A lot of
Obama asked us to hold his feet to the fire. Congress? Meh, bought and paid for.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-25-10 04:17 AM
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39. meant to say a lot of unrecs are because they don't want Obama or Congress to "look bad"
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 10:32 PM
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24. "read my lips" n/t
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 10:33 PM
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25. Right now, sounds like he'll be siging a lot of bull before he signs any such bill. n/t
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 11:09 PM
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28. October 2008 ...
"And we are tired of watching as year after year, candidates offer up detailed health care plans with great fanfare and promise only to see them crushed under the weight of Washington politics and drug and insurance lobbying once the campaign is over.

That is not who we are, that is not who we have to be, enough is enough, it time for us to change."


Oh well, then there was Billy and Karen.

:(



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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 11:14 PM
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32. Yep, and all the while they were maneuvering behind the scenes to kill it.
When the "chess player" ended up having to put his cards on the table, thanks to a Senate seat lost to his corporate dicking around, his hand was somehow absent one Public Option.

So very surprising.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 11:19 PM
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33. Recommend
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 11:19 PM
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34. What ever happened to that guy? n/t
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-25-10 01:28 AM
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35. Maybe we can put his pic on a milk carton as "MISSING"...
Who knows, maybe he'll turn up.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-25-10 09:38 AM
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41. I wish he would come back. He was pretty cool in many ways.
This other guy, though....
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freddie mertz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-25-10 03:09 PM
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50. Maybe there was a switch with an alternative-dimension doppelganger.
Like on Star Trek.

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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-25-10 06:06 PM
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54. Or maybe he's just a bullshit artist. n/t
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-25-10 01:44 AM
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36. That was President Obama speaking. Not the man in the WH, today.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-25-10 02:11 AM
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37. K&R
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jtuck004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-25-10 03:15 AM
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38. Let me think about it....OK, well, maybe I could forget it...until


November 6, 2012.

On second thought, no.
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Agony Donating Member (865 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-25-10 07:55 AM
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40. "any plan I sign must include...a public option to increase competition..."
"and keep insurance companies honest "
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dem mba Donating Member (732 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-25-10 10:28 AM
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42. misty water-colored memmmmoriesss
of the way we were...


sniff.
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freddie mertz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-25-10 11:37 AM
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44. I wish that guy had been elected president.
Edited on Thu Feb-25-10 11:37 AM by freddie mertz
What ever happened to him anyway?

I don't like this new fellow anywhere as much.
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thotzRthingz Donating Member (585 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-25-10 11:38 AM
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45. k&r (n/t)
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-25-10 11:54 AM
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47. K&R
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suede1 Donating Member (770 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-25-10 12:19 PM
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48. It would be nice if everyone went to the WH website and reminded him of he promised.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-25-10 03:45 PM
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52. We have,
We've been ignored.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-25-10 12:30 PM
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49. And here is candidate Obama promoting single payer
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-25-10 06:03 PM
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53. Doesn't matter how many times this is posted.
P.O. is not gonna happen.

He's gonna sign whatever bill comes across his desk at this point.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-25-10 06:07 PM
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55. ...and by that I mean a plan that is entirely directed to the profits of private businesses
and is not optional whatsoever.
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Agony Donating Member (865 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-25-10 08:00 PM
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56. " No longer will you be without health insurance, even if you lose your job or change jobs"
Obama also said that in the same speech.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-25-10 09:22 PM
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58. What he neglected to say was, he was going to destroy the good policies people had and tax them
Edited on Thu Feb-25-10 09:25 PM by flyarm
assuring that those who have good insurance will be offered shit on a shingle in return..while assuring the health industry CEO's the biggest bail out ever!!

Equal opportunity..now everyone can have equally shitty insurance coverage!! No matter how many concessions you took for entire working lives!! In leiu of pay you took good health insurance..now go fuck yourselves..the joke is on you!!
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