***Healthcare summit thread 2***

[LSK]

Follow along here:

http://www.c-span.org/Watch/C-SPAN3_rm.aspx

http://www.c-span.org/Topics/Health-Care-Insurance-Refo...

Obama started with some comments now Lamar Alexander is speaking.

They hid Obama's teleprompter really well!! :sarcasm:


Thread 1-> http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=7792368&mesg_id=7792368

[LSK]

1. Boner yields to a Rep Dave Camp who is promoting HSA's

Thats nice if you have extra money to save. Can you tell who those people are?

[LSK]

2. WTF McConnell is bitching about time

[Subdivisions]

3. Wahhhh! The Democrats got 52 minutes! We only got 34 minutes! Wahhhh! n/t

[sabra]

5. said the Dems had like 50 minutes while Repubs had only 24...

little fuzzy math there, considering that President Obama is a Dem...

[quiet.american]

14. So petty. nt

[LSK]

4. various congressmen are debating who should be able to make rules

Such as some states mandate a woman must stay in a hospital until a doctor says its ok after a c-section.

[LSK]

7. Paul Ryan says states should make rules, not the Fed Govt.

[BattyDem]

8. If everyone is going to be required to buy insurance ...

then everyone should have the same protections. It shouldn't matter what state you live in.

[LSK]

10. right, people dont get sick differently in Idaho vs New York

[bigtree]

6. McConnell whines about time

President brushes past him . . . not counting his time

[LSK]

9. very telling as to who wants to grandstand and who wants to debate the problems

[BattyDem]

12. McConnell's not happy unless he's whining about SOMETHING.

It doesn't really matter what it is.

[global1]

11. I Seem To Recall That When I Was Just Starting Out In My Career 40 Years Ago.....

that I was able to purchase health insurance through my professional association. Am I remembering that correctly that something like that was possible back then? If so - when was that taken away from us?

An association of common people - like a professional organization - would then be able to go to insurance companies and negotiate a decent premium for their members.

Isn't that something that should be re-visited?

Now I know what one problem would be. Not all people are members of some organization. So that is why a 'public option pool' where all American's would be included (there's power in numbers) is the way to go.

[LSK]

13. Schumer addressing Coburns massive fraud claims

[LSK]

15. haha, Schumer is turning it around about the Medicare Advantage cuts

He didn't actually name it, but thats what hes talking about.

[goclark]

16. So how is it going for the Democrats ~ cube rat here?

[LSK]

18. Reid gave them some good shots but its just back and forth now

No gotcha moments, just a lot of policy debate.

[goclark]

56. Keeping Kicked for the cube rats ~ like me

[bigtree]

21. The President has positioned himself to respond to every republican complaint

So far, he hasn't missed a beat.

[goclark]

55. Excellent!

[LSK]

17. Kyl now protesting Fed mandates because it would drive up costs

[bigtree]

19. Kyl's lining up for his smackdown

"job killer" :eyes:

[Subdivisions]

27. Kyl:

http://www.opensecrets.org/pfds/CIDsummary.php?CID=N00006406&year=2008

[dixiegrrrrl]

20. Did I go stupid.???.I can't follow what Kyle is saying.

[LSK]

22. that the proposed Govt exchange plans will have a mandated minimum of coverages

And that these mandated coverages are so good that they drive up the costs.

[rocktivity]

23. Thanks for the link

Listening from my job at a pharmaceutical research insititute--how ironic can you get?

:eyes:
rocktivity

[rocktivity]

31. Does Washington know what's best, or should people make their own choices

Thanks for the argument for the public option, people would have a choice--other than paying what they can't or dying!

:crazy:
roctivity

[LSK]

24. wow Obama is really good - his story of ACME car insurance was really great

And no teleprompter

Basically as a kid, he got just basic car insurance on his car. When he got in an accident, they didnt cover him because it was cheapo insurance. Thats fine because its just a car, but you cant do that with your health.

[LSK]

25. Obama also said - where was this kind of debate for the past year?

[LSK]

26. Clyburn bringing up expansion of healthcare centers

[Subdivisions]

28. Clyburn:

RyanSibley:
The pharmaceutical industry has been Clyburn's largest contributor this cycle. In third place is the health professionals industry--including doctors and nurses and political action committees representing them. Much of the pharmaceutical money has come in through the less-watched back door of his leadership PAC.


Thursday February 25, 2010 12:06 RyanSibley
12:05 Paul Blumenthal: Clyburn's senior counsel, Dave Grimaldi, worked until last year as a lobbyist representing insurance companies. Former Clyburn policy counsel and health policy director for the Congressional Black Caucus AJ Jones is now a Podesta lobbyist representing Amphastar Pharmaceuticals.

http://www.sunlightfoundation.com/live/

[Subdivisions]

32. delete. wrong place. n/t

[Winterblues]

35. Okay now name the things he has done for the Insurance Industry against the people.

How has he protected the Industry in this epic battle?

[Green_Lantern]

29. Clyburn...HOORAY

He mentioned how Medicare has made it so older Americans don't fear what would happen if they lost health coverage.

[LSK]

30. Obama now listing where there is agreement by most

Pre-existing conditions, life time caps, raising the age children can stay on parents insurance

[Greybnk48]

33. Rep. G. Miller sounds like a normal human being

how the hell did he get elected??????

[LSK]

34. McCain is up complaining about how all this came about

Special favors for states, no cspan cameras, deals with the drug industry.

[global1]

36. McCain Is An Ass......

and he is proving it again with his comments. Wants to go back to the beginning.

[sabra]

37. he just disrespected the President of the USA

by not letting Obama interject...

[monmouth]

38. I honestly don't think McCain, really, really considers POTUS the POTUS..

His ego (MC)is so outraged that he lost to Obama that he just can't deal with it.

[LSK]

39. Obama: we can have a debate about process or how to get things done

[rocktivity]

43. All generated by Rethugs, McCrazed!

:eyes:
rocktivity

[dixiegrrrrl]

40. Jesus, McCain...

How resentful and bitter can you get?

Good put down by Obama...".The campaign is over."

"We can have a debate about process or a debate how we can help the American people"

[rocktivity]

41. "The election is over, John"

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:headbang:
rocktivity

[muffin1]

46. That was fucking brilliant!

I'm doing about a million things while watching the summit. I am SO GLAD I was watching when he said that!

:evilgrin:

[kentuck]

42. All the polls the Republicans mention should be ignored unless...

they show 60% or more in favor. Otherwise, they are only talking about a simple majority. I didn't think they believed in a simple majority?

[global1]

44. Now We Have The Other Regressive (formerly Repug) Ass Up - Cantor.......

Boy - he sounds sincere (sarcasm).

[LSK]

45. Canter fears that the Govt can define what essential coverage is

:eyes:

[cyberswede]

48. What an ass!

There's nothing wrong with MINIMUM requirements being standardized. Insurance companies can add whatever the hell else they want to their policies in addition, and charge accordingly. Gawd I hate republicans.

[boomerbust]

47. Cantor

Smarmy prick.

[Subdivisions]

49. Notice how Cantor thinks it's ok to have that bill sitting there but it's

not ok, according to his reaction, for the President to call him out on it?

[LSK]

50. Obama called him out good

[LSK]

51. Biden nails it, if you are against pre-existing conditions

you are for some level of Govt mandates.

You cant argue against mandates then.

[LSK]

52. both sides need to dump the speeches and do more back and forth

[LSK]

53. taking a break until 1:45 est

[LSK]

54. George Miller is getting an autograph

:rofl:

[robdogbucky]

57. For those that were concerned that they were only discussing cost...

The agenda called for the first section of this "summit," to be about cost.



"...The meeting will be divided into four segments:

Controlling costs – introduced by the President

Insurance reforms – introduced by Secretary Sebelius

Reducing the deficit – introduced by the Vice President

Expanding coverage – introduced by the President..."

http://firedoglake.com/


Lots of posturing and speechifying so far.

Is this what is called "running out the clock?"




Just my dos centavos


robdogbucky

[dixiegrrrrl]

58. Thanks for that summary of agenda..I got up late this am.