A second Teabagger Terrorist

[Taverner]

Angry anti-gov't writing linked to Pentagon gunman

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100305/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_pentagon_metro_shooting

By MATT APUZZO and DEVLIN BARRETT, Associated Press Writers Matt Apuzzo And Devlin Barrett, Associated Press Writers – 1 hr 1 min ago
WASHINGTON – A California man killed in a shootout with Pentagon police drove cross-country and arrived outside the military headquarters armed with two semiautomatic weapons, authorities said Friday. The shooter apparently left behind angry, anti-government Internet postings airing suspicions about the 9/11 attacks.

John Patrick Bedell, 36, of Hollister, Calif., was named as the gunman in the Thursday evening attack. Authorities said he'd had previous run-ins with the law.

Investigators have found no immediate connection to terrorism. The attack that superficially wounded two officers guarding the massive Defense Department headquarters appears to be a case of "a single individual who had issues," Richard Keevill, chief of Pentagon police, said Friday.
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How many more Bubba Bin Ladens do we need before we start taking Right Wing Terrorism seriously?

[NJmaverick]

1. Why does the right hate our freedoms?

[Kievan Rus]

2. This is proof that some wingnuts are terrorists....

After all, one of them attacked the same building that al-Qaeda did nine years ago.

[Name removed]

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[nxylas]

3. Actually the third (at least)

Don't forget Dr. Tiller's murderer.

[Taverner]

5. Well yeah, and then there's the Holocaust Museum Terrorist

The Terrorist who shot up the Unitarian Church...so I guess that's 5

[Sebastian Doyle]

37. Tim McVeigh would have been a teabagger

had that particular group of corporate funded astroturfing manipulated idiots existed in 1995.

[Kievan Rus]

28. And the Pittsburgh cop-killer too...he was a racist, Beck-loving gun nut

[Mopar151]

30. There are hundreds, going back years

Here's a link: http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2001/summer/terror-from-the-right

Most are associated with RW causes, some are just f'n nuts... there is a lot more at the SPLC website.

From the Fall 2009 "Intelligence Report": http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2009/fall/editorial

As we report in this issue's cover story, they're back. Almost a decade after largely disappearing from public view, right-wing militias, ideologically driven tax defiers and sovereign citizens are appearing in large numbers around the country. "Paper terrorism" — the use of property liens and citizens' "courts" to harass enemies — is on the rise. And once-popular militia conspiracy theories are making the rounds again, this time accompanied by nativist theories about secret Mexican plans to "reconquer" the American Southwest.

One federal law enforcement agency has found 50 new militia training groups — one of them made up of present and former police officers and soldiers. Authorities around the country are reporting a worrying uptick in Patriot activities and propaganda. "This is the most significant growth we've seen in 10 to 12 years," says one. "All it's lacking is a spark. I think it's only a matter of time before you see threats and violence."

A key difference this time is that the federal government — the entity that almost the entire radical right views as its primary enemy — is headed by a black man. That, coupled with high levels of non-white immigration and a decline in the percentage of whites overall in America, has helped to racialize the Patriot movement, which in the past was not primarily motivated by race hate. One result has been a remarkable rash of domestic terror incidents since the presidential campaign, most of them related to anger over the election of Barack Obama.

[hfojvt]

42. ach, I forgot that one

so Tiller-killer, Pittsburgh homeless gun guy, Holocaust museum, and Shleestack. That makes 5, but also it only makes 5 victims. A pretty pathetic terrorist threat.

[nxylas]

43. Tell that to the families of the 5 victims

I'm sure they aren't comforted by the knowledge that their loved ones didn't die in a 9/11-style atrocity.

[atreides1]

4. Any proof

Besides your own stunted viewpoint, is there anything to show that he was a Teabagger?

[Taverner]

7. Well besides my "stunted viewpoint," oh abusive one, there's also his manifesto

Did you read it yet?

Didn't think so

Too busy throwing stones I see

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[Abq_Sarah]

12. It's hard to categorize guys like that

He'd might fit in at an anti-war rally but since he despised all forms of government, he wouldn't have any use for people who sought smaller government. He was type of anarchist but he wouldn't be likely to put on a black mask and break store windows because he thought pure capitalism should replace law and government. There are some beliefs that are so fringe, they are impossible to classify in terms of what we understand to be Left/right politics.

[YOY]

16. Libertarians. Big L Libertarians.

Mebbe a Ron Paul type. Maybe more independant.

[Abq_Sarah]

23. I could see this guy

Aligning himself with Ron Paul for political expediency, if nothing else.

[nxylas]

29. I think the term is "anarcho-capitalist"

They go further than the Libertarians, who at least recognise the need for *some* government, mostly to protect property rights (the only type of rights they care about). Anarcho-capitalists would privatize even the uniformed professions and the courts.

[noel711]

6. This is probably the opening act...

more to come....

When Limbaugh/Beck/ et al fan the flames of fanaticism,
all bets are off...

[Taverner]

9. Although atreides1 probably thinks the guy was a 4H Club member who got lost

And pulled out his gun thinking it was his iPhone

[WeDidIt]

8. I'm waiting for out first Teabagging Birfer Terrorist

Those bastards might go after judges, prosecutors, or court reporters.

[SidDithers]

10. Maybe not...

Here's his Amazon page:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/pdp/profile/A1S137X4WZFNZO/ref=cm_aya_bb_pdp

Which had books like:

The Immaculate Deception: Bush Crime Family Exposed
http://www.amazon.com/Immaculate-Deception-Crime-Family-Exposed/dp/0922356807/ref=cm_pdp_wish_itm_title_2

and

Family of Secrets: The Bush Dynasty, the Powerful Forces That Put It in the White House, and What Their Influence Means for America
http://www.amazon.com/Family-Secrets-Dynasty-Powerful-Influence/dp/1596915579/ref=cm_pdp_wish_itm_title_4

Granted, this stuff is a couple of years old. Is there anything more recent that paints him as a Right-Winger?

Sid

[NNN0LHI]

13. All the tea bagger types I know claim to hate Bush these days

Even the ones that I know voted for him twice.

Don

[SidDithers]

22. Agreed. That's why I was looking for something more recent...nt

Sid

[arbusto_baboso]

25. EXACTLY! Most teabaggers now even deny being Republicans.

Which of course is crap. Even if they're Ron Paulites, Paul has that "R" next to his name, soooo.....

[Emit]

14. Are you sure that's the same guy?

Amazon link shows he is from Austin, TX and the news report said he's from Hollister, Calif.

[SidDithers]

19. I believe so...

because of the his listed inerests:

"I'm interested in a lot of things, including: photons, molecules, and their interaction; biomolecular analysis and manipulation; microfabrication; CMOS integrated circuit design; DNA and quantum computing; economics; history; and biography."

Other sites with the JPatrickBedell user listed similar stuff.

Here's his wikiversity page:
http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/User:JPatrickBedell

"I'm a cannabis enthusiast, as well. You can see two cannabis seeds and two cannabis seedlings here. The cannabis seedlings were scanned in conjunction with the printed page 16 of a report on the 1991 murder of USMC Col. James Sabow.

I am currently working on DNA integrated circuit/proposal import 2007 and capillary electrode array/proposal import 2007."


Sid

[Motown_Johnny]

11. there are "angry anti-government 9/11 attack suspicions" posted here too

If you go back a few years it is even worse



I don't disagree with you
I just need more evidence before going off the deep end with this one.

[county worker]

18. I have been wondering about the fact that both people on the right and left

believe in a 9/11 conspiracy. I don't know if the believe the same things but I always thought it was a leftist issue only.

Do all 9/11 conspiracy advocates believe the same things?

[Igel]

36. Many of them.

Not everybody on the right liked *. To the left, he was an arch-fascist. To many on the rightmost 25% of the right, he was a RINO. He was accused of breaking campaign promises, raising the deficit too much, getting us involved in foreign wars, working with the likes of Ted Kennedy and generally placating and giving in to the dems too much. They voted for the non-Kerry in 2004. Just as a lot of people voted for the non-Bush in 2008.

Much of the left, though, thinks of the right as occupying a 5" strip of political space and only has a 3'-wide brush to paint them with, so the distinction isn't obvious.

As for 9/11, some on the right are just as MIHOP or LIHOP as those on the left and bash */Cheney. They could make most of their posts in the 9/11 Forum here and nobody would suspect that they're to the right (or hiding just below) free republic.

But some assume that it was leftists or Muslims or some dark alliance of the two or some other group in the US government that * couldn't control--that the CIA was out of control, that it hated and therefore subverted his administration. (Which sounds a lot like people now on the left wrt Obama. La plus ca change . . . .) Or perhaps the Trilateral Commission. Or something.

Still, most RW troofers aren't exactly in favor of pot use. However, that's just "most" and that shouldn't be taken to mean "all."

[spiritual_gunfighter]

34. What would ever stop someone on DU

from having a kneejerk reaction and making blanket assumptions based on very little evidence.

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[YOY]

15. Although some of the folks mentioned in this thread are RWers.

This guy and the plane guy seem more like 'big L' Libertarians and not necessarily RWers.

[Subdivisions]

17. I heard someone say today that, because he did not believe the

"official" story of 9/11, he was "mentally deranged". I think it was on MSNBC.

[Cheap_Trick]

35. That's what some jackasses say around here too.

I think anyone who believes one word from that sawed-off little shit or anyone from his administration is deranged.

Anyone who thinks the "9/11 Commission" was an honest analysis of 9/11 is deranged. It was a whitewash. Period.

[sui generis]

20. nah.

if every person who commits suicide-by-police was a terrorist, then there would probably be liberal terrorists, babtist terrorists, lovelorn, tax fuckup, crime of passion terrorists.

Not denying that Teabaggery is ugly, but I'll wait to apply the terrorist label until some scout for a militia does something.

Then I'll join the military and happily run a tank through their house, their outhouse, and their second amendment arsenal.

[Ozymanithrax]

21. Teabaggers tend anti-government libertarian...

They also tend towards apple pie, klu-klux-mom, conservative types.

The Republican Right is trying hard to draw these folks into their fold, where they can ignore them like the ignore the right wing religious fundamentalists. They will talk about what these people want, and throw them a bit of a bone with small pieces of legistaltion, but it is just a play for power.

[Kolesar]

24. You have captured the torn party in four succinct sentences

Klu-klux-mom, lol

[upi402]

26. who was the 1st Teabagger terorist?

The guy who flew his plane into the IRS building was more of a DUer than a Teabagger. Just because whackjob Teabaggers claimed him doesn't mean he wasn't more aligned with liberals that neocons. Read his manifesto, or change the title.

And calling him a terrorist may be a stretch for many.

[Taverner]

31. If you guys can call a vandal a terrorist (a la ELF) then a murderer is definitely one

[upi402]

33. huh? lol - Teabagger is the key question here

[JuniperLea]

27. What's his Freeper screen name?

It ticks me off that the media keeps saying "there's no link to international terrorism" as if that's the only flavor we're up against. I take it as a blatant pass being given the home grown variety, who are easily manipulated and could come in handy later.

[Bonhomme Richard]

32. They aren't all nuts but it gives a forum to......................

the whacked out wingers ( and there are more borderline ones every day) enabling them to justify their deeds. At least in their own heads.

[Name removed]

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