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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 12:21 PM
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Poll question: Who can't wait for the HCR shit to be over and done with
Pass, don't pass whatever. I am sick of this huge waste of political capital that the Democrats have blown their mandate from 08 on.

The Dems are in trouble in 2010 and 2012 for three big reasons (in my opinion):
1. The reichwing is batshit crazy and has gotten their (some kind of racist) base motivated.
2. Americans feel like Obama and the Democrats haven done anything in his first year in office that will benefit the people and help get us out of this Bush Recession. Dont bother posting the names of obscure bills.
3. The (perception, real or not that the) only people helped out by Obama's Administration are banksters, Wall Street, and CEO fatcats.

That we have wasted more than the first year on Health (Insurance) Care Reform has led to a bill that: is not even supported by some Democrats, has brought about fighting between certain Democrats over Anti-Abortion wording, contains concessions to Repukes who in all likelihood wont even vote for the bill, has huge holes that need fixing (either now or later), and numerous other problems from the HCR Blackhole, is a severe handicap that the Democrats and Administration will be hard pressed to overcome in 2010 and 2012.

We need to remove the HCR anchor from around our necks and work for the remainder of the year passing People-friendly legislation that shows a serious effort to embrace the Hope and Change that we were sold, and bought in a huge mandate, in 2008.

The clock is ticking, so let's pass it, fail it, or whatever to just get over it and move forward.



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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 12:24 PM
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1. Banksters and insurance execs are people too..
So I'm sure we will be working on "people-friendly" legislation.. For some values of "people"..
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 12:41 PM
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2. yes, want it over with. But it must.not.fail. Or it's over for Dems.


It's not Obama's Waterloo, it's the Democratic party's Waterloo.
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zipplewrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 01:01 PM
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4. That's probably already happened
The first parts of this bill are going to create alot of angry voters. Some people will be happy, but alot will get pissed off, or at least confused, even if in the end it really is helping them. And you can be the GOP will be working hard to blame everything bad on this bill. And once those impressions are set, it will be hard to undo, even as more favorable parts begin to kick in.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 01:10 PM
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6. that was my fear as well. It's turned to a giant clusterf*ck
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 12:42 PM
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3. Yeah, they should have stopped beating this horse long ago
It has done great damage to their possibilities in the upcoming election.
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 01:01 PM
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5. I am far from certain of pasasge. I believe we will be hearing recriminations for some time to come
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