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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 07:27 AM
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Frequently Asked Questions To Congressman Kucinich: Health Care
This is the Dennis I support.
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December 15, 2009

Frequently Asked Questions To Congressman Dennis Kucinich: Health Care Reform


Why did you vote against the bill?

The legislation requires Americans to purchase insurance, mostly from for-profit private insurance companies, or pay a penalty. Having insurance is not the same thing as having health care since insurance companies make money by not providing health care. People will pay twice. They would pay for premiums directly or through their employer. Secondly, tax dollars will be used to subsidize private insurance companies. As a result, insurance companies would gain at least 21 million new customers and at least $70 billion in new annual revenue. Insurance companies use an elaborate private bureaucracy to deny care, deny claims and delay payments. The legislation did little to control premiums, co-pays or deductibles. There were no real controls on cost and it did not put a stop to most of the methods by which insurers deny care. I could not support such legislation.

But wasn't the bill a step in the right direction?

No. The bill eliminated hopes for reducing or controlling insurance premiums. Insurance companies have forced double-digit increases in premiums in each of the last four years. A national single-payer plan was taken "off the table" at the very beginning of the debate. Consumers had only two hopes that the aggressive premium increases would be halted: A "robust public option" and an amendment which protects the right of states to create a single-payer system. The robust public option initially would have covered 129 million Americans and offered real competition with the insurance companies. Significant compromises whittled down the number of beneficiaries to 6 million Americans -- hardly competitive. The state single-payer amendment, which I authored, passed the Education and Labor Committee, but it was later taken out of the bull under pressure from the insurance companies and at the insistence of the White House. This leaves consumers at the mercy of the insurance companies.

Did you work with other members of Congress to try to improve the bill?

Yes. In addition to securing a bi-partisan vote for the passage of the state single-payer amendment, I was able to add four other amendments in the bull. Three were aimed at driving down the cost of prescription drugs, preventing insurance companies from changing Americans' coverage unless Americans can switch plans, and improving access to integrative medicine. Unfortunately, the substance of these amendments was removed from the bull in compromises made behind closed doors. One amendment survived. It provides consumers more information about the health care plans in which their doctor participates.

The Alternative: The Conyers-Kucinich Single-Payer Plan - Medicare For All

I co-authored, with Rep. John Conyers, HR 676, Medicare for All , which would ensure that all Americans have health care with no premiums, co-pays or deductibles and with the doctor of their choice. There are 87 congressional co-sponsors.

How would you pay for it?

American spends $2.4 trillion a year in health care, twice as much per capita as other nations which provide health care for their citizens. We are already paying for a universal standard of care. We are not getting it because one of every three dollars, or $800 billion a year, goes to massive insurance bureaucracies and to corporate profits, stock options, marketing and multi-million dollar salaries. Medicare is not for profit. If we took all the money from the present system that is not used for care and put it into Medicare for All we would have enough to cover all Americans' health care needs, including vision care, dental care, mental health care, prescription drugs and long term care.

Are you advocating a government-run system?

No. Under HR 676, Medicare would pay the bills, with huge administrative cost savings. People would be able to choose any doctor. The government would not run the hospitals or intervene with patients' care.

http://www.youshouldown.com/2009/12/congressman-dennis-kucinich-newsletter.asp

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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 07:44 AM
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1. Whoa he specifically fingers the white house as being behind the removal
Of the state single payer provisions.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 07:45 AM
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2. Excuses.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 08:01 AM
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3. If they are just excuses, show how they are.
Be substantive.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 08:13 AM
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6. He's the only Congressman who needs a freaking FAQ page to explain his vote
That's what you call excuses for doing the wrong thing.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 08:18 AM
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8. Interesting concept. Maybe I shouldn't have asked you.
Explaining his vote is proof he did the wrong thing. Oakey doakey.
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 08:06 AM
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4. ?? did you read it?
this doesn't sound like the words of a man that is "grandstanding" or "whoring for attention." and it certainly didn't sound like "excuses".

sounds like someone that is actually looking out for we the people.
:shrug:

not sure how you could read that and not see that.


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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 08:15 AM
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7. Summary: "I know better than my constituents and vote the way I want"
"It doesn't matter that I vote against the rest of the progressive caucus."

"It just matters that I get my way."

That pretty much sums it up.
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 09:17 AM
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10. that's funny, i don't recall seeing those words at all. don't you think you're
bing a bit petty?

he has his reasons, which are looking out for his constituents interests as well as those interests of constituents in all other districts aside from his own.

your opinion is biased pettiness because you disagree with him. i suspect you only disagree with him because you imagine he doesn't support the president, which is a bit silly in itself.

is it possible for anyone to disagree with anyone without being branded a traitor anymore? or did the democratic party and it's member fall victim to the bush era mantra of "if you're not with us you're against us"?

i'm not entirely sure how anyone could read the reasons he has provided and formulate a negative opinion. i also find it ironic that Kucinich was a champion of democratic policy and courage in the bush years, but now is being chided for not falling in line like a good boy.

so much odd behavior here these days.


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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 08:08 AM
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5. k/r
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 08:52 AM
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9. Dennis is full of himself
he is a self serving preening individual that does NOTHING to help the American people
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 09:18 AM
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11. lol
THE MOST ironic DU post of the Day, thus far.



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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 09:28 AM
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12. The most straight forward and honest, but that's clearly not what you wanted to see
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 09:38 AM
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13. look, i'm going to be straight with you.
you clearly don't like him. why you don't is beyond me. that's fine though, it's your choice. but to claim that his intentions are anything but looking out for the little folks is beyond preposterous. to claim he has any other motives other than simply doing the right thing is laughable.

you don't appreciate it when people make rude comments about the president and claim to be democrats, i understand your anger, because i'm feeling it right now. this man has always fought for progressive issues, for the little folks who keep getting swept under the rug.

for anyone that claims to be a democrat and simultaneously makes snarky comments about one of the few people who are truly progressive in the House is just weird.

not wrong, or bad, just plain weird.

i don't agree with all of the president's policies, but i also don't run from one end of the board to the next trashing him, or making character assassinations. i would expect people who have an issue with something like that would respect the wishes of those who would not want to see such a progressive Congressperson be dealt the same treatment.

but you do as you like.

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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 09:48 AM
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14. Why I don't like Dennis? Here's why:
I don't like him because he votes against health care, against the hate crimes bill, against the Democratic budget, against the cap-and-trade bill, and against financial regulation...


Now Dennis clearly works against the Democrats and even causes that are progressive.


As for your claims that factual based opinions are "character assassination" well that is just hyperbole intended to distract from the facts and the issues.
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 09:55 AM
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16. didn't he just announce he would vote yes?
:shrug:

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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 10:00 AM
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17. He still voted against it the first rime and it took the President giving him a ride in his airplane
and speaking in his district to finally get him to do the right thing. That's way too high maintenance when you are working on important progressive issues like making sure people have health insurance. Still you know it would be nice if you acknowledged that I made a very good point, instead of firing back with the minor question.
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 10:40 AM
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18. see, what i'm looking for today are more reasonable responses such as this:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7936555#7936604

you're in a tizzy over this guy and i just don't understand it.
that's all i'm saying. there's just no reason for the snarky remarks.

your point is moot when it comes from someone who has a tendency to show other so little respect here. i also find it difficult for me to absorb what you're saying when i can't get past your lack of civility.

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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 09:50 AM
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15. Kuch just Edwardsed himself. Oh well. nt
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