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CLANG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-10 09:06 AM
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Hannity falsely claimed "50 percent of American households no longer pay taxes"
Hannity, April 8: "50 percent of Americans no longer pay taxes. They don't pay income taxes." On the April 8 edition of his Fox News show, Hannity said: "But there was a big report today. It came up on the AP. It was the Drudge headline last night before I went to bed. And I got here in Grand Rapids, and I'm reading the Internet, and 50 percent of Americans no longer pay taxes. They don't pay income taxes. So we -- and it seems like, at this point, what incentive is there going to be for the people that are paying taxes?"
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Well, if 50 percent pay no income taxes, it probably means they have no income! Does Hannity envy these people? And in answer to his question, "what incentive is there going to be for the people that are paying taxes?", how about the incentive of having a job and an income?

Douche nozzle Supreme!
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-10 09:07 AM
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1. Payroll taxes are the greatest burden for most United Statesians. nt
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-10 09:09 AM
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2. Hannity and Beck are like twins...
From Hell.
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BuelahWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-10 09:09 AM
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3. Yes, that's the question, would he like to live their life?
So that he doesn't have to pay taxes?
I have a Facebook friend who was ranting and raving about all the taxes he had to pay, and about all the people who don't pay any. He also has a big house in the San Gabriel Mts and recently went to see Paul McCartney. I sincerely doubt those who "don't pay any" taxes are living his lifestyle.
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-10 09:12 AM
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4. half of ALL children in the US have been, are, or will be on food stamps
sometime in their lives. The fucking moochers.
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-10 09:12 AM
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5. Hannity collects military charity money and spends little on charity.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-10 09:17 AM
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6. It is 40% who do not pay taxes. What this tells us is nearly half
of the American People do not earn enough to pay taxes.

It says more about the Wealth Gap in this country than
anything.

Of course, it appears the Hannitys of this world feel
like martyrs--Millionnaires having to pay more because
almost half the country does not earn enough to pay any taxes.

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Viking12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-10 09:25 AM
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11. Really? Where are these people that don't pay taxes?
Everyone pays taxes. The types of taxes they pay vary, but everyone pays taxes at roughly the same percentage of their income regardless of their income level.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-10 10:15 AM
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20. Most often when taxes are discussed--INCOME TAXES. Taxes
on the money you earn. Yes we all pay fica and SS but in a
sense we will get a return on this.

Income Taxes are what people scream and screech about.

People wih children can be earning over 30K and not make
enough to pay income taxes. In other words they get the
tax money returned at tax time. By the time they take their
deducations, it is a wash. They essentially paid no taxes.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-10 09:17 AM
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7. And so be it. Conservatives should applaud.
They say they are for lower taxes. Would he raise their taxes?
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CLANG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-10 09:27 AM
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14. Sure, if they aren't rich, they need to pay WAY more taxes.
Edited on Mon Apr-12-10 09:30 AM by CLANG
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-10 09:18 AM
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8. I doubt it's 50 percent, but a lot of Americans who work really don't pay taxes
There are the Making Work Pay and Earned Income Tax credits...those are refundable credits, so it's possible you could receive back in refund more than you had deducted in the first place.

I'm in that situation, and I worked really hard last year. I'm ashamed and embarrassed by this situation, and I am taking steps to correct it.
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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-10 10:12 AM
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18. What about sales taxes? Property taxes? n/t
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-10 09:32 PM
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28. And road tax, excise tax...
We could get nitpicky and talk about import duties on various articles of trade--those are taxes too, right?

I think we should limit our discussion of taxation in this context to the federal income tax. Then when a story like this comes out, instead of sitting around bitching about the people who aren't paying taxes, we can ask why Joe Smith went to Walmart every day, busted his ass changing oil forty hours per week, every week of the year (because he couldn't afford to take a vacation), and Walmart paid him so little the government sent him back more money than he sent them in the first place.
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Hestia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-10 09:21 AM
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9. and nothing is said about the corporations who do not pay taxes - they get off scot free
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Walk away Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-10 09:23 AM
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10. That's right. Only republicans and Teabaggers pay taxes...
Liberals have a special IRS all their own that actually GIVES them money!
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-10 09:25 AM
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12. Our paper had the percentage at 74%
Edited on Mon Apr-12-10 09:26 AM by leftyladyfrommo
And its because so many people don't make enough to qualify to pay income tax. Kind of sad. That article said that a family can make up to $50,000 and not owe taxes if they have two children under the age of 17 - I might have that wrong. I'm going from memory here.

I don't pay income tax. I don't make enough. But I sure file faithfully each year because no way I want to get crossways with the IRS. I pay all sorts of other taxes.
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-10 09:26 AM
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13. Absolutely REFUTES their talking points...
that Americans are overburdened by taxes. Their concern is the tax burden of the WEALTHIEST Americans. Period.
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-10 09:43 AM
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15. yet they never seemt to make the connection to WHY they don't pay income taxes
although they do pay taxes even if they get a federal refund.

Furthermore, a larger percentage of corporations don't pay federal taxes, and it's not because they are poor. I'm sure he mentioned that too, right?
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MajorChode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-10 09:49 AM
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16. Here is why Hannity and the portly drug addict are completely full of shit
Federal non-FICA income taxes make up barely 1/4th of the entire US tax burden. So these fucksticks only want you to consider that small portion of tax revenue that poor people can't afford to pay because the rest, which is the lion's share of total taxation, is highly regressive. FICA makes up about 43% of all federal tax revenue and it's paid exclusively by the lower and middle classes. State and local taxes are highly regressive which means the lower and middle classes shoulder most of that burden too. The fucksticks never want to talk about those taxes.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-10 10:11 AM
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17. funny he didn't mention that EXXON paid no income tax in the US
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Viking12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-10 10:13 AM
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19. Silly, corporations are only 'people' when they influence elections....
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-10 10:16 AM
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21. Not paying taxes and not paying INCOME taxes are two very different things.
Mr. Hannity is probably wealthy enough to have someone else do his taxes, so I guess we have to excuse his pathetic ignorance.

Payroll taxes impact EVERYONE who gets a paycheck, whether or not they make enough to pay INCOME taxes. And anyone who purchases anything subject to sales tax pays sales tax, just like anyone who owns taxable property pays property taxes.
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-10 11:22 AM
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25. There are lots of taxes beside income tax
I pay personal property tax on my car. I pay real estate taxes - a large portion of which is for schools. I pay city tax. And sales tax. I just don't pay income tax.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-10 10:17 AM
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22. Hannity lies. The sun rises in the east.
Just another day.
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-10 10:20 AM
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23. Some clown at DU was trying to push this meme a couple of weeks back -
the right has been pulling this one out every year at tax time, so I knew exactly what the motivation (aka "troll-tivation") was. I can remember the days when Rovian talking points resulted in tombstoning! Now...not so much. :(
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-10 10:20 AM
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24. Oddly, republicans are now for more people paying more taxes.
What an astounding twist in their bizarro world view. The party of no tax cut left behind now is opposed to the Obama tax cuts for working people. It seems they support raising taxes on the working poor, on the middle class, on everyone except the filthy rich.

This is an opening so wide even our party's disfunctional media operations ought to be able to muster an attack.
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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-10 12:05 PM
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26. K&R! n/t
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-10 12:07 PM
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27. Wait a minute.....I thought Hannity hated taxes
Surely he LOVES the fact that "50 percent" of people don't pay taxes.

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