Pardon me, but wasn't Arizona Hispanic way before it was ever Anglo?

[arcadian]

Coronado passed through there in 1540 or so and from then until 1847 when the US acquired the area of present day Arizona during the imperialist wars with Mexico it was a Spanish colony and then a part of the Mexican Republic. This next gem might explain the current dilemma however, Arizona was a territory of the Confederacy during the US Civil War. By the way, Arizona's statehood centennial celebration will occur in 2012. Would be a shame if a massive boycott was underway against Arizona to tarnish that celebration, real shame.

[yellerpup]

1. Massive boycott/real shame

Now there's an idea.

[Muddy Waters Guitars]

2. Yep, that's the heart of this recent law-- to intimidate and drive out Latinos and indigenos

The bill Brewer just signed is essentially a harassment bill, and you're right-- it was written precisely because the Anglo Teabaggers are afraid of the indigenous people, all those preceding Anglo settlement, getting too much power. Arizona was created when it was seized in the Mexican-American War, and this happened, after all, because the slaveowning classes wanted to expand slavery into Mexico, where the government had outlawed slavery explicitly for decades. So Arizona became a alaveowning territory and a Confederate outpost in the Civil War (under John Baylor's Mesilla government). Today's Teabaggers are the lineal descendants of the Anglo slaveowners from 1848 and 1861, and they're intensely afraid of losing their economic privileges to a newly-enfranchised indigenous, Latino class in the state.

[BunkerHill24]

3. I'm not a historian, but I believe that the forces of Gen. Mariano Arista

fought to liberate parts of Arizona from the United States.

[Lyric]

4. I think the First People might find it ironic to hear different European ethnicities

arguing over which one was there "first". Hispanic or Anglo, the fact remains that Arizona was Tribal Land WAY before it was ever Hispanic OR Anglo.

[G_j]

6. There are twenty-one federally recognized Indian tribes in Arizona today

The original inhabitants of the area that is now Arizona included:

The Akimel O'odham (Pima) Indians
The Apache Indians
The Cocopah tribe
The Halchidhoma tribe
The Havasupai, Yavapai, and Hualapai tribes
The Hopi Indians
The Jocome and Jano tribes
The Maricopa tribe
The Mohave tribe
The Navajo tribe
The Southern Paiute tribe
The Tohono O'odham (Papago) tribe
The Yaqui tribe
The Yuma tribe
The Zuni tribe

There are twenty-one federally recognized Indian tribes in Arizona today.


http://www.native-languages.org/arizona.htm

[Yavapai]

8. The Yavapai are seriously rethinking their immigration policy!

But first, maybe, there should be some more discussion about it....

[KonaKane]

9. And Joe Ar-Pie-Yo has his eye on every single one of them

just in case, you know, they wanna do. Stuff.

[dana_b]

16. yep

and they will be asked for their papers. Whites? not so much

[pnwmom]

21. You got that right. n/t

[autorank]

5. k*r

And it was Native American before Hispanic...

The governor and McCain are writing the final effigy of the Republican Party. The hand writing was
on the wall with the blatant racism in reaction to Sonia Sotomayor's nomination. This is the writing
on the tombstone of that nasty collection with neo Confederate stamped on it's forehead.

[ArizonaLiberal]

7. The Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo

The Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo was a peace treaty that ended the
Mexican-American War (1846–1848). The treaty provided for the Mexican Cession,
in which Mexico ceded 1.36 million km² (525,000 square miles) to the United States
in exchange for USD$15 million. The United States also agreed to take over $3.25
million in debts Mexico owed to American citizens.

The cession included parts of the modern-day U.S. states of Colorado, Arizona,
New Mexico, and Wyoming, as well as the whole of California, Nevada, and Utah.
The remaining parts of what are today the states of Arizona and New Mexico were
later ceded under the 1853 Gadsden Purchase.

The treaty was signed by Nicholas P. Trist on behalf of the United States and
Luis G. Cuevas, Bernardo Couto, and Miguel Atristain as plenipotentiary representatives
of Mexico on February 2, 1848, at the Villa de Guadalupe Hidalgo (today
Gustavo A. Madero, D.F.), slightly north of Mexico City. It was subsequently
ratified by the United States Senate on March 10 and by the Mexican government
on May 19; the countries' ratifications were duly exchanged on May 30, 1848, at
the city of Santiago de Querétaro.

However, the version of the treaty ratified by the United States Senate eliminated
Article 10, which stated that the U.S. government would honor and guarantee all
land grants awarded in lands conquered by the United States to citizens of Spain
and Mexico by those respective governments. Article 8 guaranteed that Mexicans
who remained more than one year in the conquered lands would automatically become
full-fledged American citizens (or they could declare their intention of remaining
Mexican citizens); however, this Article was effectively weakened by Article 9,written
into the treaty by the U.S. Senate, which stated that Mexican citizens would "be
admitted at the proper time (to be judged of by the Congress of the United States)."

[Retrograde]

14. a third of the US was once half of Mexico

Add Texas to that list, and you'll see how large Mexico once was

[TreasonousBastard]

10. The Treaty of Guadelupe Hidalgo gave California, Arizona and a lot of other...

land to the US in return for guaranteeing the property rights of Mexican citizens already living there and guaranteeing them the option to become US citizens.

Alas, the version of the treaty ratified by the Senate in 1948 had those provisions struck out, so it appears we screwed the Mexicans as we were bragging about what great guys we were. Polk was President then, which explains a lot.

The Gadsden Purchase, bought at gunpoint, later got us what we didn't already have-- a southern route for a transcontinental railroad.

[msongs]

11. it was native american LONG before it was ever Hispanic - what goes around... nt

[dana_b]

12. Latino and Indian

but it's they who will be asked or their papers, not the whites. Amazing - indigenous people will be asked for their papers moreso than non indigenous. How fucked up is that?!

[Odin2005]

13. And it was Native before that.

[Bobbieo]

15. It was Native American long before it became Hispanic.

[Dramarama]

19. It was pangea before

j/k

[Cleita]

17. Yes, the Spanish names of towns and other geographical features are

a dead give away. Also, I find it disgusting that the Native American population will also be subject to racial profiling and will be required to carry their reservation IDs in case they are stopped. It's the last insult to the heap of insults white people have heaped on our First Nation people.

[whyverne]

18. The all American Cowboy was invented by the Spanish.

W's phoney ranch was of course a ranchero.

Bronco, burro, rodeo, lariat. Actually pretty much the whole cowboy deal is Spanish.

[havocmom]

20. The western most battle of the American Civil War was fought just northwest of Tucson

And it gets re-enacted every year. A lot of the Anglo population in AZ moved in after the Civil War. There are some pretty deep rooted hatreds still alive.

[pnwmom]

22. So? Before it was Hispanic it belonged to the Native tribes. n/t