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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 06:52 AM
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Question for Canadian DU'ers.
Ed Schultz bought a fishing lodge on one of the great lakes in Canada. As a result, he was given dual citizenship. I was looking for something similar for my sons. Did he get special treatment or can I look for a similar scenario for my sons? Or will it be a waste of time?
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icnorth Donating Member (954 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 07:04 AM
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1. I can't seem to locate anything on Ed Schultz
or the circumstances around it but this might be a starting point if you care to look into it. :thumbsup:
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/citizenship/become.asp
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 07:06 AM
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2. Thanks. I will jump into it and see what it says.
Edited on Sun Apr-25-10 07:08 AM by mmonk
Neither son will be a professional hockey player or celebrity.
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icnorth Donating Member (954 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 07:11 AM
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3. That's even better... :D n/t
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 07:18 AM
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4. They wish they were, but aren't.
;-)
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Nay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 07:50 AM
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5. He MAY have qualified under one of the investor sections of immigration--
if you are a business investor, and that lodge is an up and running business rather than a lodge for his own personal use, that may be why.

Also, if you are rich, you have many more opportunities to gain other citizenships because countries do worry about the financial stability of ppl they allow in. They don't want you to immediately start drawing welfare or SS.

If one of his parents was a citizen, he can apply as an adult of any age for citizenship, which is what I did.

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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 07:53 AM
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6. Neither myself or their mother was a citizen.
Should I contact a Canadian lawyer? Would that help or is it necessary?
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Nay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 09:50 AM
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17. I was talking about Ed Schultz's parents and how he may have gotten
citizenship.

As for your kids, go to the site mentioned in a post above and search for your options. There are several ways to immigrate, and it all depends on the age of your sons, their occupations, health, etc. The site will give you a very good handle on how to do it. Then, when you've digested all the info, you can talk to an immigration lawyer to get more details.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 08:16 AM
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7. 2 of my nephews attend college in Canada - I was wondering about their plans
Edited on Sun Apr-25-10 08:17 AM by old mark
after graduation, too, since they have been raised pretty internationally...they spent years in Europe, and one attended classes in South Africa.

Does Canada want to keep crazy Americans out?

(I can't imagine why....:eyes: )

m
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 08:26 AM
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8. Maybe. Seems like they could administer a simple sanity test
based on political movements here. My sons would pass. :)
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 08:26 AM
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9. Really? That is very odd.
But investing lots of money in most nations will hand you permanent residence. Or a deposit of a large amount of cash. Ed is a very wealthy and extremely money oriented man, and he's not skilled enough in his job to hide that fact. The day I heard him go on about this lodge and the client list he is after, and the money, and the fact that he took it out of the country, that was the day I said 'thank God I am not paid to write his populist stuff, because that material is now shelf dated.' He's Rush. He's say anything for a buck. His show has gone on and on about 'buy American' to the point that I, as a person who can not afford to buy a Chevy Volt, tuned out, sick of being told that one has to pay 30K and 'buy American' or one is awful. Then the man invests in Canada, an ongoing, job making, profit taking investment in luxury travel. The jobs are not American, the lodge is not here. Does Ed drive his Chevy to his Lodge? Does that make Canada into America?
How a man can shout at others to buy a fucking car, then establish a business outside America, during a huge recession, to serve the wealthy only is amazing to me. Ed and his wife are venal, they lack principle, and they are all about the money.
Only a hypocrite yells at others to 'buy American' and then himself buys millions of dollars of investment outside of America, creating jobs elsewhere, paying tax and salaries elsewhere. Ed can shove it up his ass, as he pushed mandated 'reform' and then ran to Canada to get covered by their Single Payer System.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 08:30 AM
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10. He wasn't expecting the dual citizenship. The lodge in question
was one he has been fishing at for years. It came up for sale, so he decided to buy it. Ed isn't a hypocrite. He has been speaking out for labor for a long time.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 09:20 AM
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14. Fine, he's an entertainer who now bores me
The last few times I have heard his show, no longer from Fargo of course, the subject matter has either been pushing Chevys or promoting his new lodge. Or his 'townhalls' which are just shows he sells tickets to and calls 'town halls'.
So for me, hearing about a man's investments, and wealth, and his desire to make more money without regard to principles, to me that is dull radio. Hearing a man promote his own events, his own lodge, and the various products that pay him to promote, such as Chevy, is just not what I look for in radio. I do not find it to be compelling, nor interesting, nor informative, and from my point of view, what he is doing simply does not fit the rest of his rhetoric.
The great thing about entertainers is that one has no need to listen, or give custom the moment they cease to entertain. The station is easily changed. That is why I love show biz!
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Sen. Walter Sobchak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 08:45 AM
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11. Sounds like an "immigrant investor" situation,
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/business/index.asp

Thanks to NAFTA it is pretty easy for educated Americans to get Canadian residency and Canada has a permanent skilled labor shortage, In Calgary where I am working 10% of the population is American. If you include Canadian born with an American parent and US born Canadian citizens it is even higher.

The company I work for has a lot of trouble hiring for our Canadian offices and our Canadian counterparts have just as much trouble filling their own positions so we hire extensively in the US with the exception of our Canadian lawyers and accountants. I am going to be home in California this week interviewing people to work in Vancouver and Ottawa.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 09:04 AM
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12. I hope I can help provide them with a path.
Doesn't the investor class have certain limitations? I'll have to look deeper and really read up on it all.
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Sen. Walter Sobchak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 09:15 AM
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13. Got $400,000 to invest?
Edited on Sun Apr-25-10 09:19 AM by Sen. Walter Sobchak
The immigrant investor route isn't for everyone, and is probably most popular with gangsters fleeing execution in China.

For me it was just a matter of being transferred first to Ottawa and then to Calgary - I didn't really go through the system,

The bottom line is if they wish to come to Canada it isn't difficult to do so, this is the list of jobs covered by NAFTA professional status:
http://www.nafta-sec-alena.org/en/view.aspx?x=343&mtpiID=147#Ap1603.D.1

Finding a white collar job in Canada is not difficult, the people who can't find jobs in Canada are lumberjacks, trappers and fishermen living in the 17th Century.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 09:23 AM
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15. Thanks.
I see a couple of maybes or possibilities. Though their degree work is in the environmental area, the field has some overlaps they have studied with some positions listed.
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Sen. Walter Sobchak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 09:36 AM
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16. There are lots of environmental regulatory and compliance jobs to be had
And that is just the list of NAFTA recognized professions, you can get a work visa for anything. There was a scandal a few years ago when a work visa was issued to a stripper.
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icnorth Donating Member (954 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 12:21 PM
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18. The scandal didn't last long though as
she qualified under the "asset" criterion. ;-)
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