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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 01:53 PM
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UK cops propose “forced chemical sedation”
First police Tasers, now hypodermics? A Police Federation article that appears to advocate the forced chemical sedation of suspects is a move into dangerous territory

Over the last decade or so, the police have had the run of things – vast investment, a huge increase in numbers (17,000), regiments of Police Support Community officers (16,000) to do the unglamorous jobs, and permission to write controversial policy that by-passes parliamentary scrutiny. That is why I took notice of an article from the Police Federation about “excited delirium” which subtly advocates the forcible chemical sedation of suspects by officers.

Kevin Huish, the custody specialist for the Police Federation, has returned from the conference of
the Institute for the Prevention of Deaths in Custody – yes, there truly is such an organisation – with
a description of excited delirium syndrome and the protocols for dealing with it.

The syndrome is defined in the Police magazine article by a multitude of symptoms, some of which may seem unnervingly familiar – running for no apparent reason; running wildly; being naked (trying to get cool); stripping off clothes (trying to get cool); apparent superhuman strength; seemingly unlimited endurance; violent resistance; violent resistance after being restrained; muscle rigidity; and the subject claiming “he can’t breathe”. In other words, pretty much anyone who is an agitated state, possibly because they have been wrongly arrested, have missed the last train out of Sheffield or cannot breathe because a police officer is kneeling on their windpipe.

http://markcrispinmiller.com/2010/04/uk-cops-propose-forced-chemical-sedation/
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 01:58 PM
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1. 21st Century Police State, bringing the masses into compliance with the state. n/t
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 02:03 PM
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2. "Hey you! ..."
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 03:36 PM
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9. Yep, be afraid, be very afraid, but we will protect you! Vote for us! We'll
keep 'em over there!!! :hide:
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 02:44 PM
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3. Who paid for this idea?
The Big Pharma cartel?
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 03:12 PM
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4. excited delirium syndrome? Sounds like runaway slave syndrome.
All the old southern slaveowners couldn't figure out why their slaves were always running away, so they came up with a psychological condition called runaway slave syndrome (maybe they wanted to be free?).

Excited delirium syndrome? sounds like what you get when a brutal cop is trying to beat you up.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 03:23 PM
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6. That's about the size of it




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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 03:26 PM
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7. It's the official excuse for taser-deaths: "well, golly! he had excited delirium syndrome"
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 03:32 PM
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8. ...when in actuality it likely has much more to do w/the cop becoming, um, "excited."
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 03:19 PM
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5. Why not both? Maybe we can have an electrifying dart that also
injects sedatives

"O brave new world, that hath such people in it!"
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 03:46 PM
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10. The Police Federation has been watching too many movies
You can't just shoot a dart at someone and expect them to slip into sedation and then wake up once the dart is pulled out. You need to account body weight, other drugs in the system, foods consumed, tolerance to drugs, etc.

Kind of sad when your police force is divorced from reality.
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JoeyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 04:47 AM
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12. Those kind of concerns pose no problem.
After all, Tasers are perfectly safe no matter how many people they kill.
It's obvious the solution is to assume every citizen is a three hundred pound man jacked up on a combination of meth and PCP. If that ninety pound woman didn't want to die, she should have gotten out her license faster.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 03:47 PM
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11. Exited Delerium Syndrome? WTF!?!
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