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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 04:54 PM Original message |
Legalize *all* drugs now |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 04:56 PM Response to Original message |
1. Have you ever dealt with a meth addict or oxy addict? |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:00 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. So what? Mickey Mouse shit |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:04 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. Mickey Mouse nothing.. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:26 PM Response to Reply #4 |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 06:12 PM Response to Reply #33 |
89. Ever reach a breaking point where you realize the magnitude of *REAL* problems simply outweighs... |
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midnight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:43 PM Response to Reply #4 |
58. Sorry wrong post... |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 06:01 PM Response to Reply #4 |
77. As an addict/alcoholic, I heartily agree. |
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discocrisco01 (524 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-10-10 12:13 PM Response to Reply #77 |
286. The Question is Whether You Recovered |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:00 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. we don't ever have to deal with meth or oxy addicts... |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:03 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. You never had held the hand of a meth addict.. that is obvious. |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:12 PM Response to Reply #8 |
17. and said meth addict chose to addict themselves to meth |
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Dr Morbius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:14 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. People are not all wired the same way. |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:16 PM Response to Reply #17 |
25. Meth can kill you the first time you use it.. and have you hooked by the second or third |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:21 PM Response to Reply #25 |
31. yes, and anyone in the usa who starts meth already knows that |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 01:58 PM Response to Reply #25 |
228. And we could probably send every addict in the country to treatment... |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:38 PM Response to Reply #17 |
53. Obviously you have never been addicted to anything |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:52 PM Response to Reply #53 |
69. I had no control with the alcohol |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 06:08 PM Response to Reply #69 |
82. You were not addicted |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 06:11 PM Response to Reply #82 |
87. I am serious here |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 06:32 PM Response to Reply #87 |
101. Your "mental addiction" is nothing compared to physical addiction |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 09:10 AM Response to Reply #17 |
199. LOL. Stupidest post of the day. |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 01:03 PM Response to Reply #199 |
314. all addicts CHOOSE to start their habits |
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dsn (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 12:20 PM Response to Reply #17 |
210. That's an alcohol argument, not a meth argument |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 01:04 PM Response to Reply #210 |
315. I still say they choose to addict themselves |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:15 PM Response to Reply #8 |
23. my neighbor is a tweaker and so are several other folks in my neighborhood.... |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 02:00 PM Response to Reply #23 |
229. +1000 nt |
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RedCappedBandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 06:05 PM Response to Reply #8 |
81. Throwing them in jail doesn't do shit so so what? |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 08:50 PM Response to Reply #8 |
127. So you are saying we should make meth illegal? |
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unlegendary (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 10:39 PM Response to Reply #127 |
276. Sure..legalize any drug |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 08:52 AM Response to Reply #127 |
293. i'm going to guess that factory produced methamphetamine is far less dangerous thent he shit people |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 01:20 PM Response to Reply #293 |
322. supposedly the meth here in France comes in pills |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 02:35 PM Response to Reply #322 |
335. then most likely it's far less dangerous. |
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roody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 10:23 AM Response to Reply #8 |
206. That has nothing to do with legal or illegal. |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 01:54 PM Response to Reply #8 |
227. Untrue in my case. Have held the hand of many addicts. |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:06 PM Response to Reply #5 |
13. Exactly |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:03 PM Response to Reply #1 |
9. they will take them regardless of whether they are legal or not. legalize them and regulate them. |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:47 PM Response to Reply #9 |
64. Less people will take them if they are illegal n/t |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:48 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. who cannot get illegal drugs within an hour or two? |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 06:01 PM Response to Reply #66 |
76. I have no idea where to get Crack, Heroin, Meth..... n/t |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 06:02 PM Response to Reply #76 |
79. the nearest trailer park or housing projects would be a good start |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 06:13 PM Response to Reply #79 |
92. That is uselessly vague directions, I still couldn't get narcotics if I wanted them |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 06:18 PM Response to Reply #92 |
94. really??? |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 06:27 PM Response to Reply #94 |
98. So I would have to go around approaching large groups of gang bangers |
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JoeyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 10:26 PM Response to Reply #98 |
136. Believe it or not, it's easier than you think and |
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Cresent City Kid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 11:24 PM Response to Reply #136 |
161. You're right about the "gateway" |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 02:07 PM Response to Reply #161 |
230. Even back in the 70's I was making this argument about the 'gateway.' |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 06:08 PM Response to Reply #230 |
241. Very true |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 12:38 PM Response to Reply #136 |
214. Sounds prohibitively difficult to me |
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JoeyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 02:42 PM Response to Reply #214 |
232. 2 hours worth of work for someone that's never seen either drug in person |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 03:49 PM Response to Reply #232 |
233. 2 hours for YOU |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 01:08 PM Response to Reply #233 |
317. they did a report on the news in france |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 06:12 PM Response to Reply #214 |
242. "Compared to legal access in a store" |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 08:30 PM Response to Reply #242 |
254. Not in stores, but in dispensaries |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 08:54 PM Response to Reply #254 |
256. "That sounds down right easy" |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 09:21 PM Response to Reply #256 |
260. Yeah, if you do that it will be easy to get drugs |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 09:28 PM Response to Reply #260 |
261. So fuckn what? |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 09:48 PM Response to Reply #261 |
264. Do you want there to be more drug addicts? |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 09:56 PM Response to Reply #264 |
265. Nope, and I also want less harm from those that are just going to do it |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 10:14 PM Response to Reply #265 |
269. You say "nope", but your policies are sure to cause increased drug use |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 10:17 PM Response to Reply #269 |
270. Yep, eliminating drug pushers, education and regulation is "sure to cause increased drug use" |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 10:24 PM Response to Reply #270 |
272. Making hard drugs cheap and easy to get is sure to increase drug use |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 10:34 PM Response to Reply #272 |
275. And "common sense" also dictates prohibition creates a better world |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 01:00 PM Response to Reply #272 |
313. hard drugs are cheap and easy to get |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 01:10 PM Response to Reply #269 |
318. the cannabis use rate of the Netherlands is lower than that of |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 01:11 PM Response to Reply #269 |
319. dealers market |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 11:16 AM Response to Reply #264 |
303. people take the notion of legalizing herb, which should be done, to bizarre extremes. |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 11:45 AM Response to Reply #303 |
305. The "war on drugs" is a bizarre extreme |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 01:13 PM Response to Reply #303 |
320. I never said meth or hard drugs were harmless |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 01:06 PM Response to Reply #214 |
316. go to the city, find people wearing similar colors hanging in a group |
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JanMichael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 09:02 PM Response to Reply #76 |
257. If you wanted them you'd figure it out. Really, you would. |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 01:18 PM Response to Reply #257 |
321. sad to say but here is how it works |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 08:51 PM Response to Reply #64 |
129. the case for harm reduction is full of the fail. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 03:47 AM Response to Reply #64 |
180. There is absolutely no evidence to support this assertion. |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:09 PM Response to Reply #1 |
15. ever dealt with an alcoholic? |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:14 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Yes I have dealt with alcoholics.. Yes I have dealt with Heroin addicts |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:20 PM Response to Reply #19 |
29. i know meth is a nightmare |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:28 PM Response to Reply #29 |
38. Reggie, I had to hold and care for a 14 month old baby |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:31 PM Response to Reply #38 |
43. they remembered |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:36 PM Response to Reply #43 |
48. Reggie it is different..Honest to GOD different. |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:40 PM Response to Reply #48 |
54. is meth different in the USA from the meth here in France??? |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:44 PM Response to Reply #54 |
59. I am working with little Moms who were addicted after the first hit. |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:48 PM Response to Reply #59 |
65. did they know the risk when they started? |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:57 PM Response to Reply #54 |
73. Do have any idea what Crystal Meth is? |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 06:01 PM Response to Reply #73 |
78. meth amphetamine |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 06:45 PM Response to Reply #78 |
109. I don't think it that is the same |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 06:12 AM Response to Reply #109 |
290. It is the same plus tons of impurities, dosage irregularities, etc. |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 07:31 PM Response to Reply #78 |
112. As always, it's a matter of social class. |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 06:51 AM Response to Reply #112 |
193. Good point. Class war plays into the drug war. |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-10-10 12:22 AM Response to Reply #112 |
279. Thank you! 100% accurate analysis of the issue! nt |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 08:57 AM Response to Reply #54 |
294. the meth tweakers cook up in a garage is way, way different from laboratory produced speed. |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 01:22 PM Response to Reply #294 |
323. so if lab speed is less bad for users |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 02:30 PM Response to Reply #323 |
333. back when it was lab speed, it was made by pharma and prescribed by doctors. i don't know the |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 06:54 AM Response to Reply #38 |
195. You must be incredibly strong. |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 12:32 PM Response to Reply #38 |
213. Thank you for bearing the burden of hard drug use |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:14 PM Response to Reply #1 |
22. How do draconian drugs laws change that in any way, or more importantly |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 08:59 AM Response to Reply #22 |
295. you can decriminalize a drug, it doesn't make it legal per se. you just won't lock people up for it. |
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fortune (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:19 PM Response to Reply #1 |
28. Is legalization and decriminalization the same? |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:26 PM Response to Reply #28 |
34. decrim keeps production and sales illegal |
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datasuspect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:53 PM Response to Reply #1 |
72. they'll still be there notwithstanding the legal status of the substances |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 06:09 PM Response to Reply #1 |
86. I have on both counts |
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Lyric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 06:42 PM Response to Reply #1 |
108. I think you're confusing "legalizing" with "encouraging". |
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PM Martin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 10:40 PM Response to Reply #1 |
139. You are right. Drunks are so much more pleasant. |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 08:15 AM Response to Reply #1 |
196. You seem to think the legalization of them would cause rampant new use |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 12:30 PM Response to Reply #1 |
212. If Meth and oxy were legal, safe and available, they wouldn't be killing/hurting/destroying others |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 12:45 PM Response to Reply #1 |
217. Over ninety percent of all drug use is related to marijuana -- |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 12:55 PM Response to Reply #1 |
223. Have you ever dealt with an alcoholic? n/t |
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Ex Lurker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 04:26 PM Response to Reply #1 |
238. I don't think you'd have to legalize "all" drugs |
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AnArmyVeteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-10-10 10:37 AM Response to Reply #1 |
282. I haven't had to 'deal' with an oxycontin addict, but I've listened to Rush Limblah... |
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discocrisco01 (524 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-10-10 12:12 PM Response to Reply #282 |
285. Rush Limbaugh Is Sober But Does Not Work Steps |
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AnArmyVeteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 09:04 AM Response to Reply #285 |
344. It would take Rush Limbaugh 10,000 years to just get by the restitution step. |
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Dr Morbius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 04:58 PM Response to Original message |
2. I would not agree with legalizing all drugs. |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:02 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. "marijuana merely robs ambition" |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:29 PM Response to Reply #7 |
40. That is Flat Wrong... and I think you know it. |
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nebenaube (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:52 PM Response to Reply #7 |
71. drug tests to flip bugers have nothing to do with that eh? n/t |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:05 PM Response to Reply #2 |
12. with all due respect... |
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Dr Morbius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:10 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. Very well. I will alter my statement to this: |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:15 PM Response to Reply #16 |
24. mmmm soma |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:45 PM Response to Reply #16 |
62. The most ambitious and successful people I know use pot |
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Iggo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 04:16 PM Response to Reply #12 |
236. It robs the ambition of people whose ambition is easily taken from them. |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:14 PM Response to Reply #2 |
20. robs ambition???? |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:37 PM Response to Reply #20 |
49. A few questions from one toker to another... |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:44 PM Response to Reply #49 |
60. an honest answer to an honest question |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:52 PM Response to Reply #60 |
70. Thanks for the answer. |
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CBR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 06:47 AM Response to Reply #20 |
192. I know. The PhD I am getting must be an illusion since |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:00 PM Response to Original message |
3. I deal with speed freaks all day. |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:02 PM Response to Original message |
6. Don't agree. Not all drugs are created equal. |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:04 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. "Keep meth and heroin illegal but treat it as a health issue, not a criminal one" |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:29 PM Response to Reply #10 |
39. Right now users do jail time. |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:37 PM Response to Reply #39 |
51. You think mandating treatment as punishment will work? |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:42 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. "Regardless, its a better approach than just locking them up" |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:17 PM Response to Reply #6 |
26. you know, some people actually LIKE heroin and meth |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:21 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. As long as that pursuit fucks up no one but themselves I have no problems with that. |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:24 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. honestly no, they only hurt themselves |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:30 PM Response to Reply #32 |
42. What of the users children, or do only single people get addicted? |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:33 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. If they cant take care of their kids |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:43 PM Response to Reply #44 |
56. That's pretty fucked. |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:46 PM Response to Reply #56 |
63. you are correct that was fucked up of me to even think that |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 06:14 PM Response to Reply #63 |
93. ! |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 11:09 PM Response to Reply #63 |
152. We all have our moments, Reggie. |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 04:06 PM Response to Reply #44 |
235. You think children mistreated by addicts will make your children better off? |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 01:44 PM Response to Reply #235 |
328. like i said to the other poster |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 12:23 PM Response to Reply #44 |
310. I have few doubts it may appear that way.... |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:37 PM Response to Reply #42 |
50. what of the children of alcoholics, or tobacco users...? |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:52 PM Response to Reply #50 |
68. As a child of both, I have no real argument to that. |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:57 PM Response to Reply #30 |
74. Hell yes, they hurt others |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 06:08 PM Response to Reply #74 |
83. stealing is illegal, punish theives for that |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 06:11 PM Response to Reply #83 |
88. Heroin addicts don't "go on with their lives" |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 06:12 PM Response to Reply #88 |
90. John Lennon didnt go on with his life? |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 06:28 PM Response to Reply #90 |
99. He did when he got off heroin. |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 03:59 PM Response to Reply #90 |
234. John Lennon was a multi millionaire for years before using heroin |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 06:31 PM Response to Reply #88 |
100. of course they do.... |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 06:36 PM Response to Reply #100 |
104. Look them up and see if they're still "functioning addicts." |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 08:58 PM Response to Reply #74 |
130. Crimes related to drug acquisition would be eliminated. |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 11:14 PM Response to Reply #130 |
156. "The medical consequences of heroin addiction are relatively minor." |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 10:02 AM Response to Reply #156 |
204. I'll refer you to wiki. |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 10:51 AM Response to Reply #204 |
207. . |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 12:53 PM Response to Reply #207 |
221. Your source is biased and does not separate WOD induced harm. |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 09:01 AM Response to Reply #6 |
296. "Keep meth and heroin illegal but treat it as a health issue, not a criminal one" |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:07 PM Response to Original message |
14. legalize it all, the current system of distribution of drugs |
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Texasgal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:26 PM Response to Reply #14 |
35. Actually, it is illegal |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:28 PM Original message |
It is legal to be an alcoholic |
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Texasgal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:30 PM Response to Original message |
41. We could say the same for drug addicts |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:34 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. drug testing for jobs, wire taps |
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Texasgal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:38 PM Response to Reply #45 |
52. You have a point... |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:14 PM Response to Original message |
18. that would certainly end all the negative externalities, mainly crime.... |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:19 PM Response to Original message |
27. what has ruined more lives, drugs, or the war on them? |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 06:43 PM Response to Reply #27 |
245. to be clear |
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Meldread (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:27 PM Response to Original message |
36. Supported. Here is why it should be legal and how it should be handled: |
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rollin74 (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:28 PM Response to Original message |
37. I support legalizing marijuana |
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discocrisco01 (524 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-10-10 12:14 PM Response to Reply #37 |
287. Concur |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:34 PM Response to Original message |
46. That only works if you pretend that narcotics use is harmless |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:35 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. why should drug users be persecuted |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:45 PM Response to Reply #47 |
61. Do Alcohol and Narcotics have the same effects? |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:50 PM Response to Reply #61 |
67. my drugs of choice are less harmful than alcohol |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 06:36 PM Response to Reply #67 |
103. I support Marijuana legalization |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 06:38 PM Response to Reply #103 |
105. I agree, Taiter. |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:43 PM Response to Reply #46 |
57. then why embrace alcohol use throughout our culture...? |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 06:04 PM Response to Reply #57 |
80. There are differences. |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 06:26 PM Response to Reply #80 |
97. I think you're succumbing to anti-drug propaganda.... |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 06:35 PM Response to Reply #97 |
102. "Who are you and I to tell people what they can and can't put in their own veins?" |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 07:20 PM Response to Reply #102 |
111. "Criminalization is sometimes the only thing that has an effect." |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 07:59 PM Response to Reply #111 |
116. I couldn't disagree more. |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 08:08 PM Response to Reply #116 |
119. Why wasn't everyone a cocaine and/or opiate addict when they were legal? |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 08:22 PM Response to Reply #119 |
120. Not quite right. |
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RedCappedBandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 10:50 PM Response to Reply #120 |
141. You can't force people into treatment |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 11:03 PM Response to Reply #141 |
147. You sure can. |
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RedCappedBandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 11:06 PM Response to Reply #147 |
149. Do you think the kids mandated into rehab take it seriously? |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 11:09 PM Response to Reply #149 |
151. You can't make universal statements about it. |
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RedCappedBandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 11:16 PM Response to Reply #151 |
157. How do you do this? |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 11:21 PM Response to Reply #157 |
160. Yes. |
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RedCappedBandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 11:30 PM Response to Reply #160 |
163. If that were true, nobody would get clean. |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 11:34 PM Response to Reply #163 |
167. "Obnoxious" |
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RedCappedBandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 11:35 PM Response to Reply #167 |
169. If it's your family, you clearly have more authority |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 09:03 AM Response to Reply #120 |
198. Actually, when legal they were MUCH more widely available |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 02:07 PM Response to Reply #198 |
231. Have you noticed that rational argument has no effect w.r.t. the WOD? |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 05:38 PM Response to Reply #198 |
240. I understand the argument |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 09:03 PM Response to Reply #80 |
131. "one shot of heroin might" |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 11:06 PM Response to Reply #131 |
150. Bullshit. |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 03:35 AM Response to Reply #150 |
178. "Heroin is deadly" |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 06:26 AM Response to Reply #178 |
182. with legalization overdose deaths would be reduced |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 09:18 AM Response to Reply #150 |
200. Actually, strong-opiates are unusually safe drugs |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 11:08 AM Response to Reply #150 |
300. well, only if these dosage is too high or it's cut with poison. that said.. nasty stuff. |
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Flaneur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 06:59 PM Response to Reply #80 |
249. Wow: "People must be arrested and forced into rehab in order to get well." |
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nebenaube (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 06:00 PM Response to Reply #46 |
75. true to some extent.. |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 06:24 PM Response to Reply #46 |
96. Not a bit. I don't pretend all drugs are safe at all |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 07:33 PM Response to Reply #96 |
113. But criminalizing doesn't create more problems than legalizing |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 07:47 PM Response to Reply #113 |
115. Right-O. Nope. Criminalizing sure doesn't create a black market ran by armed cartels of assholes |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 08:45 PM Response to Reply #115 |
125. It is still better than having legal hard drugs |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 09:15 PM Response to Reply #125 |
133. Why? Drug pushers with uzis are better than some regulated dispensiary? |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 09:51 PM Response to Reply #133 |
134. You are creating a false dilemma |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 10:30 PM Response to Reply #134 |
137. The status quo of the black market is just that |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 02:39 AM Response to Reply #137 |
172. That is still a false dilemma |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 02:55 AM Response to Reply #172 |
175. "We reform the penal system, which will reduce crime." |
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RedCappedBandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 03:37 AM Response to Reply #175 |
179. People seem to think you can simply force people to stop using drugs. |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 06:32 AM Response to Reply #175 |
184. exactly |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 12:27 PM Response to Reply #175 |
211. If you want to stop drug dealers you stop drug users |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 12:51 PM Response to Reply #211 |
219. Throwing addicts in jail after they are hooked eliminates drug users? |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 01:25 PM Response to Reply #219 |
225. Your easy solution to preventing drug use is to make drugs easily available |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 01:40 PM Response to Reply #225 |
226. Drugs are easily available. My solution is to make them regulated & controlled, and stress education |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 04:21 PM Response to Reply #226 |
237. You believe legalization will make drugs less available? |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 05:29 PM Response to Reply #237 |
239. How can you get it from friends when its sold in limited quantities at a time to a specific person |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 06:31 PM Response to Reply #239 |
243. Going and getting a license sounds dramatically easier |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 06:55 PM Response to Reply #243 |
248. Than driving to the shitty part of town? |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 07:40 PM Response to Reply #248 |
251. It is not JUST driving through the shitty part of town thou is it |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 08:51 PM Response to Reply #251 |
255. "You have to find and approach potentially armed drug dealers" |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 09:13 PM Response to Reply #255 |
258. Again with the false dilemma |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 09:18 PM Response to Reply #258 |
259. You endorse reforming the penal system...I got that.... |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 09:31 PM Response to Reply #259 |
262. The black market doesn't produce addicts |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 09:35 PM Response to Reply #262 |
263. It does when they give out free goodie samples |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 10:04 PM Response to Reply #263 |
268. We are at an impasse |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 10:19 PM Response to Reply #268 |
271. "Drug prohibition will only work with a functional penal system" |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 10:31 PM Response to Reply #271 |
273. Only if you pretend that changing the justice system will have no effect |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 10:32 PM Response to Reply #273 |
274. You mean for after users are already addicted from buying from the black market?!? |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 10:40 PM Response to Reply #274 |
277. No, targeting the black market and the drug dealers |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 10:47 PM Response to Reply #277 |
278. Targeting the black market by making a "war" on them? |
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Flaneur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 06:50 PM Response to Reply #225 |
247. My goodness, listen to yourself! |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 12:59 PM Response to Reply #211 |
312. try to stop me from smoking reefer |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 06:31 AM Response to Reply #137 |
183. weed is as cheap or cheaper than it was when i started 17 years ago |
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RedCappedBandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 10:55 PM Response to Reply #113 |
145. How does imprisoning people for using drugs equate to helping them? |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 11:12 PM Response to Reply #145 |
154. Clearly this isn't something you understand. |
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RedCappedBandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 11:18 PM Response to Reply #154 |
159. Been to more than a few. Don't make assumptions. |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 11:25 PM Response to Reply #159 |
162. And you still ask how keeping them from drugs helps them?? |
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RedCappedBandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 11:32 PM Response to Reply #162 |
165. I never asked that. I asked how making criminals out of non-criminals is beneficial to anybody. |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 11:35 PM Response to Reply #165 |
170. I am through discussing this with you. |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 02:48 AM Response to Reply #165 |
173. How is making the dangerous, addictive substances available to them beneficial to anybody? |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 03:13 AM Response to Reply #173 |
176. Its already is available for all through Uzi armed thugs... |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 06:44 AM Response to Reply #176 |
188. yes, someone else gets it! |
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RedCappedBandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 03:27 AM Response to Reply #173 |
177. They're already available. You're naive if you think otherwise. |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 06:42 AM Response to Reply #173 |
187. a stern talking to will do nothing |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 06:39 AM Response to Reply #162 |
185. What wll help them is this |
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RedCappedBandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 06:44 PM Response to Reply #185 |
246. ... |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 07:35 PM Response to Reply #46 |
114. So everything not harmless should be illegal and folks would benefit from prison... |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 08:24 PM Response to Reply #114 |
122. Not "everything." This isn't "all" or "nothing." |
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RedCappedBandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 06:08 PM Response to Original message |
84. Criminalizing drugs does nothing except make drug users criminals. |
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Duer 157099 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 06:09 PM Response to Original message |
85. I agree, with the caveat that ALL TREATMENT programs are FREE |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 06:21 PM Response to Reply #85 |
95. There would be more than enough money left over to do it |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 06:45 AM Response to Reply #85 |
189. dont forget that taxes from mdma, lsd cannabis etc |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 06:13 PM Response to Original message |
91. Sanest post of the year |
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SocialistLez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 06:40 PM Response to Original message |
106. WHAT?! and threaten the prison-industrial complex? |
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SocialistLez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 06:41 PM Response to Original message |
107. WHAT?! and threaten the prison-industrial complex?! |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 07:11 PM Response to Original message |
110. I say legalize cannabis and decriminalize everything else. No sense in locking people up for drugs. |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 08:02 PM Response to Reply #110 |
117. Unless it's for treatment. |
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RedCappedBandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 10:36 PM Response to Reply #117 |
138. How do you forcibly treat someone? Can't be done. People should not be locked up for drugs, period |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 10:50 PM Response to Reply #138 |
142. Same way it's done for mental illness. |
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RedCappedBandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 11:04 PM Response to Reply #142 |
148. Which is what? |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 11:11 PM Response to Reply #148 |
153. Oh for God's sake. |
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RedCappedBandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 11:18 PM Response to Reply #153 |
158. So, do you keep them locked up until you're confident they won't go home and relapse? |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 11:30 PM Response to Reply #158 |
164. You're never confident. |
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RedCappedBandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 11:33 PM Response to Reply #164 |
166. I'm not suggesting anybody gives up. |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 11:34 PM Response to Reply #166 |
168. I am through discussing this with you. |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 06:47 AM Response to Reply #142 |
191. drug use is not like mental illness |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 10:54 AM Response to Reply #191 |
208. Yes, it is. |
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Flaneur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 07:18 PM Response to Reply #208 |
250. Please post some numbers to back that assertion. |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-10-10 12:07 PM Response to Reply #250 |
284. Surprised, huh? |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-10-10 09:53 AM Response to Reply #208 |
281. ????? Most heroin addicts I know or have known |
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RedCappedBandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-10-10 11:55 AM Response to Reply #281 |
283. Same here. |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 08:07 PM Response to Original message |
118. All drugs? No. |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 08:23 PM Response to Reply #118 |
121. That sums it up. |
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chrisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 08:29 PM Response to Original message |
123. Crack, meth, and some other drugs aren't safe. |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 08:38 PM Response to Reply #123 |
124. A ton of pharmaceuticals aren't safe |
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datasuspect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 08:51 PM Response to Reply #123 |
128. so are you saying that people "sniff" crack? |
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Robeson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 08:48 PM Response to Original message |
126. Agreed. |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 09:08 PM Response to Original message |
132. Consider it done ~ |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 09:54 PM Response to Original message |
135. Um, no thanks |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 10:48 PM Response to Original message |
140. Aren't more kids using stuff lying around the house and in their parents medicine cabinets? |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 10:54 PM Response to Reply #140 |
144. Pharma drugs are killing a ton of kids these days |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 11:12 PM Response to Reply #144 |
155. It is easier access for them. And what parent is going to think that |
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MODem75 (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 10:52 PM Response to Original message |
143. I say defund all the drug warriors and use that money for education and rehab. |
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CommonSensePLZ (606 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 11:00 PM Response to Original message |
146. -1 |
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CommonSensePLZ (606 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 12:03 AM Response to Reply #146 |
171. Drug are bad. |
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kas125 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 02:51 AM Response to Original message |
174. It sounds to me as if we need to educate people about the |
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RedCappedBandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 04:13 AM Response to Reply #174 |
181. Some would have you believe they don't exist |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 06:51 AM Response to Reply #174 |
194. I dont know about heroin or meth but i know that mdma and cocaine |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 06:41 AM Response to Original message |
186. If it pisses off all the Right people, I'm all for it |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 06:46 AM Response to Original message |
190. I disagree |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 08:21 AM Response to Original message |
197. Wow, I've never met another person who espoused that opinion |
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mdmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 09:31 AM Response to Reply #197 |
203. copy pasted my below reply to you here.. |
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randr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 09:18 AM Response to Original message |
201. Life, liberty, and THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS--unalienable rights! |
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mdmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 09:27 AM Response to Original message |
202. k/r |
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roody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 10:21 AM Response to Original message |
205. Portugal has decriminalized drug possession. |
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Strelnikov_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
209. Hey, Oligarchs, ever hear of a marijuana fueled lynch mob? |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 12:39 PM Response to Original message |
215. 150% agree. Drug laws drive violent crime, poverty, and destroy already |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
216. I forget the actual stats, but marijuana use |
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backwoodsbob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 12:46 PM Response to Original message |
218. nope |
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robdogbucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 12:52 PM Response to Original message |
220. PLEASE STOP THIS PISSING CONTEST |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 12:59 PM Response to Reply #220 |
224. when it comes to defending the WOD, it is FAITH not FACTS |
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PM Martin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 08:21 PM Response to Reply #224 |
252. The drug warriors, as you call them are archaic. |
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AnArmyVeteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
222. All drugs would be legalized tomorrow if corporations could completely control their sales... |
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BreweryYardRat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 06:37 PM Response to Original message |
244. Yep. Legalize, tax, treat people if and when they become addicts. |
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wildbilln864 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 08:28 PM Response to Original message |
253. Hope this works: |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 09:58 PM Response to Original message |
266. Go to YouTube and type "russian kids shooting up" into the search bar. You can't unwatch it, though. |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 10:01 PM Response to Reply #266 |
267. Alcohol is legal....so we permit kids to use it? |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 01:46 PM Response to Reply #266 |
331. i watched kids shoot up when i was a teen |
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xrdan (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-10-10 09:47 AM Response to Original message |
280. The government should not only legalize all drugs, it should supply them |
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Iggo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-10-10 02:50 PM Response to Reply #280 |
288. LOL @ Government Sterilization Program. |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-10-10 11:10 PM Response to Reply #288 |
289. What free society? |
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Iggo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 08:41 AM Response to Reply #289 |
291. The same. |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 08:49 AM Response to Original message |
292. have you any idea how dangerous meth and methheads are? |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 10:14 AM Response to Reply #292 |
297. Yep. I still don't care |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 10:47 AM Response to Reply #297 |
298. i garauntee you'd change your tune if you had firsthand experience with it. actually, since it's you |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 11:01 AM Response to Reply #298 |
299. I guarantee I have and I still don't care |
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anarch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 11:10 AM Response to Reply #292 |
301. well it's sure a good thing it's illegal, since that obviously keeps people from doing it |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 11:13 AM Response to Reply #301 |
302. you could decriminalize it and use treatment instead of prison, but over the counter crank is a bad, |
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anarch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 11:22 AM Response to Reply #302 |
304. crank is a bad idea in general, in my opinion |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 11:48 AM Response to Reply #304 |
307. And such people are not "in the system" most often since what they want is illegal |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 11:46 AM Response to Reply #302 |
306. Poison crank bought by unlicensed users in unlimited quantities from gun wielding fucks is better |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 01:29 PM Response to Reply #302 |
324. we survived from 1930 - 1970 or so with legal meth. |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 01:34 PM Response to Reply #324 |
325. knowing that bathtub meth is bad / = supporting the war on drugs. but hey, you can |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 01:40 PM Response to Reply #325 |
327. And I personally will continue to do so |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 01:45 PM Response to Reply #327 |
330. the only difference between you and me on this, would be meth and crack. i don't have a problem with |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 01:53 PM Response to Reply #330 |
332. "i'd have no problem with decriminalizing it" |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 02:32 PM Response to Reply #332 |
334. i'm only half joking when i say, i'd tell people to avoid that shit and go for legalized vicodin. |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 02:37 PM Response to Reply #334 |
336. I hate opiates with a passion |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 02:43 PM Response to Reply #336 |
337. i agree on herb. as for opiates, pain pills (not H) when you have a blown out back, |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 02:54 PM Response to Reply #337 |
338. I have a blow out back actually |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 02:57 PM Response to Reply #338 |
339. i blew my lowest disc completely out . any worse and it would have needed surgery. for some reason, |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 03:10 PM Response to Reply #325 |
342. "bathtub meth" exists only because of the WOD. |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 01:35 PM Response to Reply #324 |
326. "none of them beneficial to society" |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 03:06 PM Response to Reply #326 |
340. well yes it does indeed benefit some. |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
308. Portugal has... |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 12:22 PM Response to Original message |
309. Try to argue the legalization of drugs on its own merit... |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 12:58 PM Response to Reply #309 |
311. I have spent most of this thread doing that |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 01:44 PM Response to Reply #311 |
329. A primer... |
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Mojeoux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 03:49 PM Response to Reply #309 |
343. This is the basis of the organization known as "NORML" |
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341. INCLUDING GLUE ! ...oh wait. n/t |
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