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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 09:50 AM
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I just woke up. OK, catch me up on the oil gusher!
Just looking around on various sites, the junk shot may have actually worked, for now, could blow any minute, assuming the reptiles running BP aren't lying.

Now they're pumping mud again and it's actually going down the well, am I correct?

There's a lot of speculation going on at theoildrum.com, so I'm confused.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 09:52 AM
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1. We're all going to die
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 10:17 AM
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8. That is an absolute truth
and yet, I sense a modicum of hyperbole here.

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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 10:25 AM
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10. I love the smell of hyperbole in the morning
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 09:54 AM
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2. BP won't show the BOP or the riser on live video. Claims all is well....n/t
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 10:07 AM
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3. Top kill didn't work. BP may be still pumping mud and/or junk in now.
They have taken away both views of the two leaks.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 10:08 AM
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4. Everybody is Reporting Something Different
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 10:16 AM
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7. That's about the size of it
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 10:13 AM
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5. USOs were seen hovering around ths site of the wound
The SpillCam™ seemed to catch shining pairs of green eyes in what appeared to be viewports on the fronts of the USOs. Oliver Stone is said to be negotiating movie rights.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 10:14 AM
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6. Here's the thing
If a BP official has his or her mouth open, lies are spewing. That's the one thing they've been consistent on.
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 11:04 AM
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15. +1 an unstoppable flow of BS
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Feron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 10:17 AM
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9. Nothing definitive yet.
From shelburn @ Oildrum:

If the top kill is successful the next step will likely be the installation of a second BOP which would mean they have to either remove the riser and/or LMRP so they have a fitting to latch the BOP.

If the top kill is not successful then they will proceed to attaching the LMRP "top hat".

Both of these procedures require cutting the broken riser.

So if I was the project manager I would go ahead and install my clamps for the saw and maybe the saw itself to save time later on.

Bottom line is that if they are installing the saw it doesn't actually indicate anything about the success or failure of the top kill.

.....................

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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 10:30 AM
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12. Interesting.
Crossing our fingers.

And don't believe anything the comes out of the mouths of anyone from BP wearing a tie...
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 10:29 AM
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11. Keeping reporters out. What does that tell you about the biggest disaster in U.S. history?
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 10:32 AM
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13. There are rumors floating around that the BOP has been destroyed. EDIT: BOP OK
Edited on Fri May-28-10 11:12 AM by Subdivisions
Here is video of the moment the rumors were spawned:

http://i.imagehost.org/download/0693/vlc-record-2010-05-28-09h09m17s-1_http_mfile_akamai_com_97892_live_reflector_46245_asx_bkup_462

This is a 7+ MB video, so dialups be warned...

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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 10:59 AM
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14. Just watched it.
Beware of my speculations - they're frequently wrong, but looks like a big methane burp. Those chunks of debris looks like methane hydrate to me, though I could be wrong.

It could be that the BOP or the riser pipe blew, or maybe something else entirely happened.

We'll just have to wait until the next lies come out of Suttles' mouth...
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 11:10 AM
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17. Well, when I posted I was not satisfied the BOP was destroyed. And now,
the CNN multi-cam link here:

http://www.cnn.com/video/flashLive/live.html?stream=stream3

...is showing the riser kink on top of the BOP. Whooops...and just now as I'm typing my bp.com cam has returned to the kink on top of the BOP and the date is current.

So, in the video I posted, we must be seeing something else, perhaps the methane "burp" you described. If you'll recall, the first warnings that something was wrong was someone on the rig saying the well was "kicking". Not exactly sure what that means, but perhaps it ties in with the "burp" you mentioned.

I am editing the subject line of my post to reflect that the BOP has NOT been destroyed.
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FedUpWithIt All Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 11:33 AM
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19. There was a video a couple of days ago
where the time stamp froze for over two minutes and the film kept playing.

I am a little suspicious of the time stamps.

Notice at 4:05 on the part three video at the link. The clock stops at 18:18:41

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=385&topic_id=468565
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 11:37 AM
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20. It was golf balls and other "junk" is my guess.
seems to me if they did a junk shot some or all would go through.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 11:44 AM
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21. Methane burp?
That would make sense. Picture the mud holding back the oil, way down in the pipe.

Methane might be able to sneak by the mud and rise up, causing a burp.
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 11:06 AM
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16. That looks like there was an eruption. Since the time embedded in the video,
have there been any shots of the riser or BOP since?
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 11:11 AM
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18. Yes, the cam for the riser kink on top of the BOP has just returned. It's still there, thank God.
Edited on Fri May-28-10 11:15 AM by Subdivisions
And the time/date display is showing that it's current. There has, however, been a substantial change in the look of the riser kink. It is still spewing but it looks as if the "junk" inside there has at least partially altered the character of the plumes coming out of the cracks in the kink.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 11:46 AM
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22. NYT is reporting that the Oil Flow Is Stemmed. Here look for yourself
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Feron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 11:54 AM
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23. Time will tell..
The media reported yesterday that the oil flow had stopped and then retracted it in the late afternoon.

Historically the junk shot did not work on the Ixtoc well. Hopefully this attempt will be successful.

If not, it's Top Hat 2 time.
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 12:19 PM
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24. Dinosaurs are emerging !
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