Man arrested in death of (his) cat

[Omaha Steve]

http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_page=2798&u_sid=2379165

Published Monday | May 7, 2007
Man arrested in death of cat

Police arrested an Omaha man on suspicion of felony animal cruelty for allegedly strangling and stomping his cat to death.

Brian Power, 39, was booked into the city jail Saturday night on one count of felony animal cruelty.

Pam Wiese, spokeswoman for the Nebraska Humane Society, said a woman told police she witnessed a man killing an animal at a park Saturday night.

The woman gave police the license plate number of the car the man was driving, Wiese said.

Police located Power at his home. Power told them his cat bit his girlfriend a few days ago and that he needed to put it down.

Under state law, animal cruelty can be classified as a felony if any of the following actions are committed: torture, mutilation or repeated beating.

- Jennifer Palmer

[Little Wing]

1. Okay, so he's an asshole

What else about this do you think is worth discussion?

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

43. People that do this sort of thing to animals

may be more likely to use violence against other people. I hope the girlfriend is ok.

[bluestateguy]

2. By all means there must be a fair trial and due process, but if he is guilty...

[MonkeyFunk]

7. really?

he should be executed? Wow.

He's an awful, awful man, and I hope he's punished severely. But the death penalty?!

[undergroundpanther]

13. Psychopaths

Are not like us.They do not care. We cannot make them care.Imagine what kind of moral depravity is required to choke a cat. A cat you known one belonging to your girlfriend seen as a family member or how I put it I am a pride member ,the three cats and I . THink on that. How alien to you is it to actually DO what that asshole did?Is this asshole someone YOU would want near you or your pets?

Lobaczewski’s hypothesis is that a small percentage of humans are born psychopaths. He describes the research to back up that data that was destroyed and supressed. Another minority percentage are of a nature to go along with psychopaths while the vast majority of people are essentially healthy. The majority who are healthy have a difficult time understanding that some people are not — they can not fathom being a psychopath or acting like one.

The activity of the psychopath may seem in some respects to accomplish a kind of protracted and elaborate social and spiritual suicide. Perhaps the complex, sustained, and spectacular undoing of the self may be cherished by him. He seldom allows physical suicide to interrupt it.


So what I suggest is that we help the psychopaths die.Because if we don't and continue to act as if he possessed a conscience he will hurt others until we have to kill him.
http://ponerology.blogspot.com/

[MonkeyFunk]

24. well

Not being a psychiatrist or a Republican Senator, I won't presume to diagnose him.

But I don't think we should murder psychopaths, either. Call me crazy, but killing people to teach them that killing is wrong is wrong.

[tularetom]

3. Take this piece o shit to the zoo and feed him to the lions

Time for karma to bite him in the ass literally.

[kwolf68]

4. Repeated beating

He'll walk with a fine or something.

I am serious, anyone who does this to an animal should have a record, because there is a direct connection between animal abuse and human abuse (even if there was no connection I support felony status).

If you are man enough to beat to death a defenseless 12 pound animal, then you are man enough to carry a record. More example of human debris.

[slowry]

6. Even if there were no connection between the two, it's still murder IMNSHO n/t

[undergroundpanther]

10. Someday

Humans with a heart and soul are gonna have to clean out this human debris for our own mental health's sake and for the safety of life itself you know.Too long have we let assholes like this off easy,we pretend they are like us,we let them out to live to kill another innocent and wonder how could this be?.How many people and animals gotta be hurt or killed before "goodhearted"people get out of denial realize psychopaths do not change they manipulate and pretend to change and all they want is to do it again.THey don't care howe much suffering they cause,we are nothing but inferiors to them, so why should we care for a psychopath? Kill them if they do not want to respect life enough to not abuse it or destroy it.To me psychopaths are dead and rotting inside long before the law catches them.

[undergroundpanther]

5. The noose is too kind

For shitheads like him

Let me gather seven hungry tigers who hate humans and break both his knees and toss him in the cage and walk away..
Fucker.I hope he dies.And it HURTS.

[karlrschneider]

19. Tigers (or any animals*) aren't capable of hating. Only humans are.

I guess that's why Gawd chose us to run the planet.
:eyes:

Yes, I know, technically 'we' are animals.

[undergroundpanther]

25. A lion or tiger abused by humans

will learn humans are hateful creatures and not trust them or show any kindness to them.
Animals can and DO hate. Take the Lions and the Hyenas they friggin have a blood feud going on a war..literally.

Spotted hyenas, will not hesitate to steal the food away from a lion pride. All male lions and hyenas seem to have an eternal hate for one another. Hyenas will kill lion cubs, while male lions will kill adult hyenas..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYsqRTJJ67I
http://www.amazon.com/National-Geographic-Video-Eternal-Enemies/dp/6304474636

[karlrschneider]

33. It's not a feud, it's competition for food.

Humans are the only animals who will do violence against others for NO practical reason.

[MonkeyFunk]

36. not true

Orcas do so. Chimps do so. I'm sure there are others.

[karlrschneider]

41. I'm certain no DUer would ever make such a sweeping claim without evidence.

Yours is uh....what?

[undergroundpanther]

42. Well

Could you just go choke a cat like this killer did? Could you?

[MonkeyFunk]

44. Did you see the documentary

"Blue Planet"?

They show orcas playing "catch" with a seal - they did so for over an hour, and when the seal finally died, they moved on to more fun. They also showed a pack of orcas spending hours separating a baby whale from its mother, exhausting it until it died - then they ate just the meat around the jaw and let the rest go to waste.

Chimpanzees will kill and eat other chimpanzees that enter their terrority. They often grab a child, kill it, then eat it. They don't need to do that. They just do.

[karlrschneider]

50. I'm aware of that sort of behavior. I don't see hate as a motive.

Do you?

[MonkeyFunk]

51. No

perhaps I misunderstood. I never said hate was the motive, and if that was your point, I missed it and take responsibility for that.

I was saying that humans aren't the only animals that commit cruelty.

[undergroundpanther]

40. Ducks gang rape

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2002/05/07/BA39289.DTL
And they fuck the dead..

As he recounts in his seminal paper, The first case of homosexual necrophilia in the mallard anas platyrhynchos, he was in his office in the Natuurmuseum Rotterdam, when he was alerted by a bang to the fact a bird had crashed into the glass facade of the building. "I went downstairs immediately to see if the window was damaged, and saw a drake mallard (anas platyrhynchos) lying motionless on its belly in the sand, two metres outside the facade. The unfortunate duck apparently had hit the building in full flight at a height of about three metres from the ground. Next to the obviously dead duck, another male mallard (in full adult plumage without any visible traces of moult) was present. He forcibly picked into the back, the base of the bill and mostly into the back of the head of the dead mallard for about two minutes, then mounted the corpse and started to copulate, with great force, almost continuously picking the side of the head.
http://education.guardian.co.uk/higher/research/story/0,9865,1432991,00.html

What happens when the psychopaths die?
http://ranprieur.com/crash/baboons.html

Humans are not the only sick brutal creatures on this Earth.

[regnaD kciN]

75. Agreed...

Philosophically, I am opposed to capital punishment...but I'm willing to make an exception for wanton cruelty to a defenseless animal.

[judaspriestess]

8. OH MY GOD

I'd like to strangle and stomp this fucking piece of shit. I am so fucking sick and tired of animal cruelty!!

Anyone ever hurts my lil babies............:mad:

[undergroundpanther]

11. I know how you feel

Damn I would if I could,would not feel one ounce of regret if I could accuurately detect,and than shoot every animal abuser,every bully, child abuser, rapist,thug, and suited psychopath asshole dead.

[High Plains]

68. Dude, I'm starting to wonder about YOU!

How is that rage management coming?

[undergroundpanther]

72. I do fine

I haven't broke any laws or hurt anything. Alot of peaceful sounding people can hide terrible rage and they let it out on others when they are sure no one cares or sees or will tell.Me ,I control it and I vent when nessary in my WORDS. Because I say what I feel as it is there is no need to repress it and bottle it in. I say it and it's done. Might look shocking to you,that someone says stuff like I do, but I am an intense person,I feel deeply and I have my own effective way to manage my own issues.If my way bothers you, realize it is your issue not mine.My anger is expressed twords whom instigates it,like the ass who killed a cat.No use bottling it up to pretend I am more holy than thou.'Cause I ain't.
I say it and because I don't repress it,I can let it go.I don't pretend this cat killer is good because I'm not angry at him now, I just don't have to vent. He's still a bad person.But my anger is not here now.
And it ain't here because I said it and let it go. Some people are not realizing distinctions between venting and doing. Sometimes venting is healthy.Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.;)

[MonkeyFunk]

12. that'll teach him

compassion!

[lonestarnot]

14. Now who could teach a thing like that compassion and how?

[MonkeyFunk]

15. Dunno

but I'm pretty sure beating the crap out of him and killing him isn't the way.

[lonestarnot]

21. LOL MonkeyFunk, no junk in yer trunk.

Maybe not, but I'd like to beat him about the head and face for a while. Not kill him, just give him a taste of his own medicine.

[MonkeyFunk]

23. I understand the impulse...

as a devoted servant of three cats.

I just don't understand the desire to physically harm people who do bad things. I want them removed from society, I want them punished, I want them to be rendered unable to do such bad things again. But I don't want to beat them or kill them.

[undergroundpanther]

29. Sometimes

Misplaced pity of others makes a grave the only option for people like the cat killer.
Jails are full of people who are not violent so psychopathic companies like unicor can get cheep labor,yet psychopaths too often can fake remorse well enough to get pitied and so they get thier sentances reduced go out to hurt alot more lives before some judge says ENOUGH and puts 'em in a grave.The question is not dead or alive it's how long and how many have to suffer until we HAVE to put him down..

[MonkeyFunk]

30. I don't pity him

I just don't believe that advocating gross violence against people solves any problems at all. It just compounds it.

[lonestarnot]

35. Ugh.

You're right. Gross violence is gross and stupid, but this cat killer needs his ass whipped with a hickory switch. Whip it. Whip it good.

[undergroundpanther]

37. Death is not gross violence

Talking about the tigers eating him was me venting my feelings.There is a difference between venting and what would be a rightful death.
Death of this murderer would not have to be violent.Death can be peaceful, and it would end the problem by ending person who's the problem.He won't have the misplaced tolerance to allow him to go kill more.Psychopaths kill thier victims far more violently than a chemical in an IV in jail.

[MonkeyFunk]

39. Then we just disagree

murder is violence, even if it's done gently.

[undergroundpanther]

26. Therapy doesen't change people like that cat killer

What do you suggest be done, forgiveness and a group hug?

[MonkeyFunk]

31. Nope

don't put words in my mouth.

My view is simple - committing gross violence against bad people doesn't solve any problems.

[undergroundpanther]

20. It's true you cannot teach virtue

To those who cannot comprehend it.

What's missing in psychopaths are the qualities that people depend on for living in social harmony. In this book, Hare estimated (conservatively) that there were more than two million psychopaths in North America. "Psychopathy," he insisted, "touches virtually every one of us."

http://www.crimelibrary.com/criminal_mind/psychology/robert_hare/5.html

[lonestarnot]

22. Well

I'd like to touch him, and he'd know it wasn't an angel doing the touching.

[MonkeyFunk]

27. We don't know that he's a psychopath

He did a horrible thing, but I don't think the news account allows us to diagnose him.

Nonetheless, murdering him won't raise the level of global compassion one iota.

[undergroundpanther]

34. I couln't kill an innocent cat

I cannot think of any reason to kill a little 12 pound cat.
If the cat was dying and suffering, or rabid I might be forced kill him out of mercy or for my own safety. But I could not just up and kill a cat like that asshole did.I don't care how mad at the ex I might be I cannot DO that.
I have been bitten and mauled by cats,but I did not desire thier death for that..Why because I CAN empathize with the cat.A human howewever that has no consience has no reason to empathize, no inner restraints on what he chooses to do to others .I cannot excuse the choices ofv someone with NO consience,who can't feel guilt and won't feel remorse..Because the very thing that makes us able to co exist is absent from him.
Could you just go choke a cat to death? I don't think so.
Psychopaths often kill animals before the kill people.

[MonkeyFunk]

38. Yes

psychopaths often kill animals before killing people.

That doesn't mean that everyone who kills an animal is a psychopath.

He may be. I have no idea.

But wanting to stomp him to death just makes you just as bad as he is. Worse, in fact, because it shows YOU have a desire to commit gross violence against another human. He hasn't yet demonstrated such a desire.

[undergroundpanther]

45. I don't see myself as human

I am ashamed of this species. And I can desire all I want think every vengeance but..I didn't kill anyone I didn't hurt a cat..and Thinking does not equal DOING.

Unless you are some new age ass or word faith freak. Than you might believe thought equals action.
And venting outrage is OK and an expression ,righteous anger has a purpose a positive one really.Pacifism is not always good..To condemn the cat killer verbally is not equal to killing a cat. I have killed nothing by venting my anger at this asshole..
But your desire to play nicey with toxic people and control others venting of their feelings of anger by this shtick of yours DOES cause harm.Take that self righteous pseudo pacifism...Which is a form of passive aggressive bullying and meditate on that.I am not wasting any more time with you.
I disagree with you.Get over it.

[MonkeyFunk]

46. oh honey

there's nothing to get over. Don't overestimate your impact on me.

So you don't consider yourself human, you wish to commit gross violence against another human, and you dare lecture me on what a psychopath is? How humorous.

[undergroundpanther]

58. Monkey funk you will NEVER understand.

Your beliefs hold you like a steel trap.

Venting, thinking about harming an asshole who hurts something dear to you,and DOING it are not the same thing.
And putting a psychopath who does violence even when he did it before and does not want to stop doing it is not as violent as letting him live free to kill and kill again.A person with no conscience lacks the ethical reasoning faculties to stop himself by himself he will forever have to be watched locked up and caged..The minute he is left to his own he'll hurt something.

And your utopia where psychopaths can be fixed does not exist.YET . ForThere is no known way to teach virtues to people who have none and cannot comprehend them. Too bad the way I think of this type of thing is too complicated of an ethical situiation for you.Too bad you see things people say as thought or venting = action.

[AngryAmish]

60. I killed 2 innocent animals this weekend

I went fishing. Caught 2 catfish. They were delicious.

Am I a psychopath?

[ceile]

62. hmmm let's see....

killing something that is considered a food source and eating it vs. killing something that made you mad, that was your house pet? Killing to eat vs. cruelty to animals....
Yeah, don't see your point.....

[undergroundpanther]

18. You can't teach compassion

Either you feel it or you can't.
I have no compassion for psychopaths and their intolerable habits.

I would prefer to direct my compassion to the people and animals who can feel it,I pity the cat, am sad for the girlfriend who'
s cat was killed, and all the people this psychopath asshole hurt on his way to self destruction.

I do discern between those with a heart and those who have none.I don't waste my love on psychopaths.Too bad others misdirect their loving impulses to these bad people ,because if they'd stop pitying the psychopaths ,less innocent people and animals would be suffering because of that misplaced pity of the so called"enlightened who assume all people are like themselves.Truth is some,e are very different.And they have no moral core and will not reform because they see nothing wrong with themselves..

[Kool Kitty]

55. I agree. I'd like to stomp this bastard.

What possesses people to do this? Was the girlfriend that the cat bit impressed by this? "Ooooh, my hero...you did that for me?"

[pretzel4gore]

9. you see where the poor little creature got its manners

n/t

[ComerPerro]

16. wow, crazy.

[AtomicKitten]

17. his sentence should be suffering the same fate he inflicted on the cat

I believe in karma.

[MonkeyFunk]

28. Really?

he should be stomped to death? Sick.

[AtomicKitten]

47. I'll bet the cat thought so too.

n/t

[MonkeyFunk]

48. so we should

reform our justice system to implement punishments you imagine cats would like? I disagree.

[AtomicKitten]

49. you are being way to literal today

I am expressing my outrage with my only slightly facetious response.

Not a big fan of animal cruelty.

[MonkeyFunk]

52. The implication that I'm a fan of animal cruelty

is unfounded.

I think his crime is horrific. It still doesn't make me want to stomp him to death.

As hard as it is to believe, it's possible to disapprove of a crime without wishing horrific violence upon the perpetrator.

Edit: I see it here all the time. Unless you wish the most ghastly, painful death on someone, you're accused of supporting the crime. It's a bullshit allegation.

[AtomicKitten]

53. oh dear, that's not what I meant

Jeez, we can't quite get on the same wavelength. I hate the cruelty and abuse, I hate the guy that did it, but didn't literally wish him the same demise. I do hope, however, that he is prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

Peace.

[MonkeyFunk]

56. ah

17. his sentence should be suffering the same fate he inflicted on the cat
I believe in karma.



this confused me. Excuse me for mis-reading it.

[undergroundpanther]

59. Karma is a bullshit concept

I do not believe in karma at all.Karma has been used to justify many atrocities and injustices throught history like the castre system and the mistreatment of dalit people.Fuck karma it's a evil hearted lie.No god sits there l;ike a big cosmic santa claus saying who's naughty and whos nice based on some tally sheet.

We are prisoners on this sick sad planet.Karma is but another fetter against spiritual liberation .Karma applies to you ONLY if you BELIEVE in it.I don't believe in Karma. Some followers of eastern teachings will kill compasssion in the name of detachment.

[Raksha]

63. Any religious or philosophical concept can be twisted and abused,

ESPECIALLY by the people who originated it. The idea of karma was (and still is) very convenient for the Brahmins and the warrior caste in India, to justify why THEY just happened to be the ruling classes and why keeping certain people in "untouchable" status was justfied and justifiable.

There's no doubt that the upper classes in India turned the idea of karma into a very self-serving doctrine...but there's no intrinsic reason why you'd HAVE to do that. Speaking for myself, I wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of the karma of those people who use it to justify their own callousness, and who stand by doing nothing (and even feeling superior) while others suffer.

[undergroundpanther]

71. exactly

And if the heart of the doctrine is lacking than it hasen't proven itself true to me yet.Buddhism is fine for some things but it too I found is limited and it leaves me wanting more it does not answer the questions I am seeking answers to.Instead it blames the victim or the selfg,Kill the ego, nevermind the ego has a function and a place in a person.
Buddhists just demonize it because they cannot accept distinctions and that all is not the same or one.And some things I do not wish to "merge" my consiousness with.Buddhism is not without it's own subtle stench of enlightenment..

[Dora]

64. If you meet the Buddha on the road...

Kill him.

[Swamp Rat]

65. LOL!!!!!!!

:rofl:

[undergroundpanther]

70. Uh huh

Because he said he was a dried shit stick and I believe him.

[The Stranger]

66. I think your indignance is misplaced.

People are rightfully upset about this. And that is normal. Calling them sick is calling the wrong person sick: the sick one is the one who illegally tortured and killed his own pet.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

32. No doubt a "real" man protecting his little woman from that ferocious pussy cat.

[slowry]

54. Murder, plain and simple.

I see a lot of people talking about how this behavior is shared by many, or maybe even most, who go on to kill people. That's true, but who cares? People who do things like this ought to be tried for murder, just as if they'd killed another human being.

[HardRocker05]

57. hopefully he'll get the same treatment in prison that he gave the cat. nt

[AngryAmish]

61. ah, a prison torture advocate

On a scale of 1 to 10, how happy were you about Abu Grahib?

[WI_DEM]

67. he "needed to put the cat down" because it bit his girlfriend

of course if he really had to put the cat down there are more humane ways of doing it other than strangling and stomping it to death! The man is a psycho and what did the girlfriend do to provoke the cat to bite her?

[mitchum]

69. May he die in his sleep by the end of the week...

see, I'm not advocating violence or cruelty toward this sick bastard. The world would just be a little better place if that psychopath just went away permanently...

[undergroundpanther]

73. Yeah I know

Wish There was a way to make all the psychopaths just dissapear.No 'morality plays'
no squeamish oooh this might hurt the bad person and If I kill him it might make me evil by contagion types of dramas,it would be so wonderful if every bully psychopath just fell asleep and died..

[r mann]

74. first post

I have been visiting DU for over a year now and have just
registered to respond to this thread. I am shocked by the
comments about killing or torturing another human being for
this or any other crime. I do not understand how to judge
another person's actions based on one or two paragraphs and
then condemn them to death.
Maybe this is all parody and I just don't get the joke.