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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 07:10 AM
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I would like to remind folks where many of our problems originated
The link below will take you to a very short article that's about 2 years old, it should take you less than 1 minute to read and fully digest. It explains succinctly and precisely where most of our current problems, including the tragedy in the Gulf, began.


http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/presidentbush/2008/07/it-was-his-fina.html
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Capitalocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 07:15 AM
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1. Let's boycott all BP-financed candidates in 2010
and K&R

BP STANDS FOR BALLOT POISON

Pledge not to vote for any candidates receiving campaign donations from BP in 2010.

Petition: http://www.petitiononline.com/bp2010/petition.html

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=113423272036102

Twitter: @bpballotpoison
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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 07:23 AM
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2. Hope you're including the POTUS...
Obama got lots from BP...I say no money from any corporations for candidates, even if they are "people"...
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secondwind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 07:28 AM
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4. But doesn't that prevent regular employees from having a "say" in politics? Especially



now, when the SCOTUS has deemed corporations to be "people"? What I mean is, if a corporation can contribute to a presidential election, shouldn't its employees have the same right......
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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 07:42 AM
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6. of course
individuals should be able to contribute, without coercion of course...maybe I needed the sarcasm tag...
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Capitalocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 07:28 AM
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5. I'm limiting this petition to BP 2010 to get as much support as possible
but yes, I agree with you 100%
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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 08:51 AM
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11. One corporate sponsor down...nt
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 07:44 AM
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8. +100000000000
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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 08:49 AM
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10. great image...
Clowns are terrifying aren't they?
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 09:30 AM
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15. BP Corporation didn't give Obama any money. He took no PAC money.
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secondwind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 07:25 AM
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3. WTF? No wonder the world is loving our new President! Bush was a disgrace.
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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 07:43 AM
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7. Is the world really loving our president???
Edited on Sat Jun-05-10 07:44 AM by maryf
I think not so much...and Obama received more from BP than any one else, I believe ever...
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 09:31 AM
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16. Stop lying about Obama, please.
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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 08:39 AM
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9. Our problems originated with Capitalism...
the quest for profit and cost cutting, that's the source of all our problems...
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wowww Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 09:11 AM
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13. Obama is falling prey to Capitalists.
Obama has created a budget deficit department.

When will we have a TRUE Progressive President?
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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 09:26 AM
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14. When the people truly rule...
and not the corporate interests...
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Cal Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 09:49 AM
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17. Really, it's sort of just one problem
Edited on Sat Jun-05-10 09:54 AM by Cal Carpenter
Isn't it? It's a lot easier to think of it that way, AFAIC.

It's the economic system. It's the root of all of it.

No doubt bush pushed things along quite well but to think that he was more than a cog in a machine (of which Obama is also a part) is a totally counterproductive to fixing anything. To say anything 'originated' with bush is dangerous thinking, imo. As if we can just overturn or improve a few laws and that will make a substantial difference. And to do that not just for industry environmental regulations but for every other issue - labor rights and wages, wars and the military industry, health care, education...

It must feel hopeless to think each of those things needs to be tackled piecemeal, like whack-a-mole.

I'm with you. Forest for the trees and all.
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immune Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 09:00 AM
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12. The butchers and the bakers ....
This essay was posted on a libertarian website some time ago, but IMO it speaks of where many of our problems originated and how we got to where we are today.

http://www.strike-the-root.com/3/pre/pre1.html

PS: I am not a libertarian, large L or small.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 10:28 AM
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18. I've got to be honest with you, I read it, I think its sophomoric tripe at best
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immune Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 10:48 AM
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19. You think ....
of course, for some some thinkers, its hard to be specific in their criticism.
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