Saudi Clerics Advocate Adult Breast-Feeding

[Generic Other]

And this is considered acceptable while a 75 year-old woman is given 40 lashes and 6 months in prison for buying bread from a man not her relative???

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(June 5) -- Women in Saudi Arabia should give their breast milk to male colleagues and acquaintances in order to avoid breaking strict Islamic law forbidding mixing between the sexes, two powerful Saudi clerics have said. They are at odds, however, over precisely how the milk should be conveyed.

A fatwa issued recently about adult breast-feeding to establish "maternal relations" and preclude the possibility of sexual contact has resulted in a week's worth of newspaper headlines in Saudi Arabia. Some have found the debate so bizarre that they're calling for stricter regulations about how and when fatwas should be issued.

Sheikh Al Obeikan, an adviser to the royal court and consultant to the Ministry of Justice, set off a firestorm of controversy recently when he said on TV that women who come into regular contact with men who aren't related to them ought to give them their breast milk so they will be considered relatives.

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Al Obeikan, who made the statement after being asked on TV about a 2007 fatwa issued by an Egyptian scholar about adult breast-feeding, said that the breast milk ought to be pumped out and given to men in a glass.

But his remarks were followed by an announcement by another high-profile sheik, Abi Ishaq Al Huwaini, who said that men should suckle the breast milk directly from a woman's breast.

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[Warren Stupidity]

1. wow. the saudis have insane religious 'leaders' too?

They are more and more like us every day.

[ensho]

2. the religiously insane are . . . . . insane

nt

[WestSeattle2]

13. Bingo! On the scale of religious insanity, this ranks right up there

with expecting human males to remain celibate. Yep, just hit the "Off" switch. They're all nuts with too much time on their control-freak hands.

[TheDebbieDee]

15. I think they expect women to remain celibate, too! Lol.

[WestSeattle2]

21. YES! And God forbid that humans actually enjoy sex. Sinful!

[TheDebbieDee]

31. Oh, the horror!

[fleabert]

42. actually - that's not true in Islam... off topic

the Koran actually specifically says that husbands should fully satisfy their wives sexually prior to their own satisfaction, and that married sex life is very important to the marriage, it should be healthy and happen often.

what is not okay is sex with people other than your spouse. that means men can have sex with up to four women (all wives) but women just have the one guy. Unless they divorce, then they can have sex with their next husband.

[Codeine]

3. I have no words. nt

[Cassandra]

4. I don't know what these guys are drinking...

but it ain't breast milk. :crazy:

[CaliforniaPeggy]

5. This is so fucked up that I hardly know where to start.

[shanti]

11. hi peggy!

:hi: you and me both, lady. this is sick...

[Generic Other]

17. I had the same reaction...

It sounded like A HANDMAID'S TALE by Margaret Atwood. I was stunned to read it. And it sounds as if many of the Saudi women are stunned too.

I don't think change will happen there until the women themselves decide they have had enough. This might just send them over the edge.

[tanyev]

6. WTH?

WTF?

What???

[Taverner]

12. I know - my head is still spinning

[Generic Other]

19. I just was stunned by reading this!

I can see why even the Saudis are questioning this latest fatwa.

The religious extremists always seem so perverted.

And in Afghanistan they throw acid on girls for going to school.

And in America, rape, molestation, ugly attitudes.

There seems to be nothing but perversion and hatred expressed against women everywhere.

Even in this thread, men who think it's funny when women are oppressed.

[Taverner]

43. If you supress sexuality, it comes out in weird ways

[lunatica]

7. Sounds like a bizarre fetish to me

And I bet I'm right about it being a fetish.

[Ozymanithrax]

8. This is so wrong...n/t

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[htuttle]

10. Bitty!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8orUaCJ0GY

[dhill926]

14. dammit that was funny............

[notadmblnd]

16. try being a woman in SA and get your mind around that kind of thinking?

[Generic Other]

20. I can't even begin to understand

and I don't want to.

[Bobbieo]

18. These people are our friends?

[Generic Other]

24. apparently so, or maybe they are our overlords

who knows?

[Cleita]

29. I believe your statement is the truer one. n/t

[harun]

27. Friends let friends buy cheap oil. Rest doesn't matter.

[secondwind]

22. This shit goes hand-in-hand with our own homegrown Christian shit: see below:

http://christiandomesticdiscipline.com/how_to_discipline.html

[Generic Other]

25. OMG Are they seriously advocating spousal abuse?

What denomination printed this? They are cousin to the Saudi clerics for sure.

[Desertrose]

26. O.M.G.....clicked your link & my head exploded!!!

a sample which seems to go right along with the insanity of this thread....





The Application of Discipline to Your Wife
Rebuke and Lash. This is the harshest discipline a husband should administer, and it should always be done privately and with Godly, Biblical love. Usually, exhortation will have already taken place before this method is used, but there may come situations where this is the first step. The rebuke and lashing should be administered with a calm heart. Talk to your wife, let her know you are serious, and tell her why she is to be disciplined physically.

[knitter4democracy]

30. If my ex had put me over his knees for that, he would've be in pain.

My elbow would've found the right spot, and I would've made sure he was hurting as much as he'd wanted to hurt me. For crying out loud! This is insane!!

[frustrated_lefty]

35. That has got to be a satire site....

[Generic Other]

36. It's a Christian BDSM site from the looks of it

Combining the best of both worlds in a single sick perverted way.

[AnArmyVeteran]

40. Will this be offered at Hooter's restaurants in Saudi Arabia?

I think I'll skip the fries.

But seriously, this sounds like a joke, but I've seen so many laws born out of religion I wonder how anyone could buy into the lunacy of it all. I would love to see a world without any religion. Like John Lennon said, "Nothing to kill or die for". That pretty much sums up religion. Religion causes more division among people than bringing them together. If religion wasn't invented by man people would be a lot better off and they would have one less reason to hate and kill one another.

I think this proposed law is disgusting how it diminishes women. But what religion doesn't diminish women? Even in the Ten Commandments women are equated to a person's donkey, ass, slave or possession. How can any woman be a 'Christian' when they are regarded so lowly?

[Odin2005]

23. WTF?

:wtf:

[Cleita]

28. It's just another way to demean women, this time to reduce them

to the status of cows. Their sole purpose in life is to service the men, any way they are told to.

[Generic Other]

37. Some Saudi women seem to be speaking out

We need to be supportive of them. It's hard to imagine the ugliness they deal with on a day-to-day basis.

[FarCenter]

32. Is there any religion that isn't perverse and has a positive approach to female-male relationships?

[KamaAina]

33. Unitarian Universalism

and we have a positive approah to same-sex relationships, too!

[KamaAina]

34. Wouldn't it be easier to make the breast milk into cheese?

There's precedent, after all:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=7870817&mesg_id=7870817

[undeterred]

38. Give it to them in a glass, with a little cyanide.

:evilgrin:

[EFerrari]

44. LOL

:rofl:

[Liberal_in_LA]

39. crazy women hating a**holes

[fleabert]

41. holy flying spag monster...i thought I was a strong BF advocate! wow.

out of fucking control.

btw- that was not an endorsement of this nuttiness.