Fundie: 'we're being set up...to be seen as knuckle-dragging Neanderthals.....'

[marmar]

:rofl: :think:



from the American Family Association, fighting for the rights of heterosexual Christian fundamentalist nuts everywhere:



Atheists invited to WH interfaith meeting
Bill Bumpas - OneNewsNow - 6/17/2010 5:00:00


Student atheist leaders are bragging that they were recently invited to the White House to participate in a meeting on interfaith service projects on college campuses.

The Secular Student Alliance boastfully proclaimed on its website that a couple of its leaders attended the June 7 meeting sponsored by the Obama administration's Office of Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships.

Bishop Harry Jackson with the Fellowship of International Churches tells OneNewsNow he believes the White House is trying to expand the tent of faith to include atheists and non-religious people as a way to discredit Bible-believing evangelicals.

Harry Jackson Jr."I think we're being set up -- for people of living faith who believe in a born-again experience who follow the Bible -- to be seen as knuckle-dragging Neanderthals who need to come into the 21st century," Jackson said.

He argued that, in the 20 years that President Obama sat under the preaching of his pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Obama was exposed to a worldview that included aberrant ideas. For example, Wright likened the Supreme Court to the Ku Klux Klan, said the U.S. had brought the 9/11 terrorist attacks on itself, and insisted that the U.S. government had invented HIV as a way to kill minorities.

"Then it stands to reason that you would not see anything wrong in including all these kinds of folks (atheists) in your religious program," Bishop Jackson said, "and you kind of feel like this is what America really is like and this is what the faith community should be like because this is the world you as a president had experienced in your pre-presidential days."

The White House, he believes, has bought into the concept that America is no longer a Christian nation.


http://www.onenewsnow.com/Culture/Default.aspx?id=1053246

[trotsky]

1. Naw, he's wrong. There's no set-up needed to do that. n/t

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

2. Now, why in the world would anyone ever think such a thing?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[PDJane]

3. Not much of a set-up.

When America became a 'Christian' nation, Christian values seem to have disappeared.

[ThatsMyBarack]

37. Can I quote you on that?

You could stitch that on a pillow! :hi:

[PDJane]

38. certainly!

And I had thought of it.

[pundaint]

46. Christian values have never been employed by the recruitment branch, or management. Occasionally

someone who wants to do good works gets sucked in, and the movement takes credit for their actions. I've met some very caring christians, but thy were actually humanists, like Jesus.

[Homer Wells]

4. Hmmm-Knuckle Dragging Neanderthals??

Sounds just about right to me!!

:evilgrin: :rofl:

[Arugula Latte]

But, but, I thought Adam and Eve were the first hoomins!

Bible sez nuthin about cavemens! Me so confuzed! :crazy:

[POAS]

41. Don't say nuttin bought no

dinosaurs neither but we knows that Adam and Eve walked with them. We's gots the evidence in a museum in Kentucky.

[POAS]

5. Mr Jackson doesn't seem to know what

a neanderthal looks like.

Somebody give him a mirror.

[treestar]

32. ROFL!

that's the only "set-up" needed! :rofl:

[IDemo]

6. Neanderthals deserve a better image than that n/t

[AndyA]

7. The American Family Association and "Christians" need to take a look at their own actions.

They pick and choose which parts of The Bible they choose to believe. I don't recall reading anywhere where this is acceptable. If something that applies to them is bad, they ignore it. If something they don't like applies to others, well then that's something to get involved with.

Divorce? Adultery? Hatred? Condemnation? Judging others? Disregard.

Homosexuality? Why, that's an affront to the Lord!

Do unto others? Let he who is without sin cast the first stone? Antiquated, not relevant today.

Christians create their own problems. They come across as hypocrites when they pick and choose what to believe. It just doesn't work that way, and anyone who believes it does IS a knuckle-dragging Neanderthal. Christians are their own worst enemy. And they're giving Christianity a bad name.

They have no one to blame but themselves.

[DavidDvorkin]

8. The Neanderthals gave us fire

which is far more than the AFA has contributed.

[hobbit709]

30. Actually fire predated homo Neanderthalis.

Most likely homo ergaster

[DavidDvorkin]

31. Really?

That's remarkable.

Well, how about, "The Neanderthals were intelligent enough to appreciate useful technology. Such as fire."

[Jackpine Radical]

54. Neanderthals had brains that were somewhat larger than modern ones.

Furthermore, it is fairly clear that they cared for their elderly and injured people. Quite unlike modern flat-earth fundies.

I think you have to dig a little further to find a reasonable comparison for the fundies. Zinjanthropus or something else not quite in the direct human line, perhaps.

[jmowreader]

62. Maybe guppies?

Mainly because guppies are cannibals.

[Jackpine Radical]

63. Guppies it is.

[old mark]

9. Well, I think of them more small minded bigoted fascistic halfwit suckers, but hey,

that's just me.

They have little real knowledge of any religion, but believe in a pastiche of magical thinking, disorted simplistic concepts and pure hatred. They really are quite foolish people-almost cartoonish- and it is sad that anyone actually takes them seriously, but, this IS America where you can believe in any "religion" you want, no matter how laughable.

mark

[tanyev]

10. Psst!....Easiest set-up ever.

[Fumesucker]

11. 21st Century? I'd be happy if they'd move into the 20th.. n/t

[Stevenmarc]

12. Oh Harry you are nothing like a Neanderthal, they had an original thought.

[TexasObserver]

13. Not a set up. They auditioned for the part.

[704wipes]

43. +1

nt

[Catshrink]

14. Then don't make it so easy to see you as knuckle-dragging Neanderthals

[OnionPatch]

15. I personally know a few teabaggers.

I didn't need any media-sponsored information to help me form my view of them and yet they are just they way I've been seeing them portrayed.....confused racists, scared of everything different from them and full of misinformation and hatred.

[fascisthunter]

16. you set yourselves up.... mental illness has deluded you all

just as Islamic extremists are deluded into thinking god told them to blow up buildings and people around them. No different, just different part of the world with different circumstances, but the consistency in logic is their for all to see.

[Arkana]

17. Atheists: "We calls 'em like we sees 'em."

[Initech]

18. Groups like the AFA live in their own bubble.

[DeschutesRiver]

19. Walk like a duck, quack like a duck = is a duck. nt

[Odin2005]

20. LOLZ!!!

[ohheckyeah]

21. He really needs help for his

persecution complex.

[Taitertots]

22. If you want people to believe you are in the 21th century, stop believing 1st century mythology n/t

[and-justice-for-all]

23. 'we're being set up...to be seen as knuckle-dragging Neanderthals.....' LOL, to Late! nt

[KamaAina]

24. KamaAina: 'I'm being set up...to be seen as a balding, paunchy man in his mid-40s....'

:P

[Urban Prairie]

25. Knuckle-dragging Neanderthals?

So Jackson also can insult that extinct non-Christian species, but perhaps he and those of his same or similar religious beliefs who agree with him, could someday be named knuckleheaded Neandervangelicals in a historic sense.

Fundamentalists like Jackson claim that "America is no longer a Christian nation". Is "In Christ We Trust" stamped or printed on our currency? The US must recognize all religious beliefs, including those who do not recognize Jesus Christ as also being a Messiah and/or God him/her/itself (as part of the Holy Trinity), as long as they do not advocate or practice violence, harm or forced indoctrinations, both physical or emotional, to those whose beliefs are different from their own.

To state otherwise, as Jackson has, is biased as well as racist, and ignores/insults all other honorable, honest, and patriotic American citizens who are not Christians...for just some examples, those who are voluntarily serving in our military, native Americans, war veterans, judges, policemen, business-owners, lawyers, firemen, physicians, political/public leaders, professors, teachers, physicians, nurses, tax-payers, and charity-giving citizens of the US.

[DFW]

26. I know what gave it away

How about the moment they opened their mouths?

[branders seine]

27. 'we're being set up . . .

by ourselves.'

[WhiteTara]

28. his knuckles must be soooo sore

because they do hang low.

[hvn_nbr_2]

29. Knuckle-dragging Neanderthals don't want to be seen as... well, you know. nt

[treestar]

33. As a knuckle-dragging Neanderthal, I object to being classed with

an idiot like Jackson. Bad Obama! :spank:

[Rex]

34. Oh foolish little Christian, they just told you that so your ilk would

go off in the thousands and die for politics and religion. God, I hope an afterlife does exist for these pitiful creatures. They seem to hate the actual living world and everything in it.

[nichomachus]

35. Unlike fundies, neanderthals weren't knuckle draggers. They also

took care of the sick and elderly and made extensive use of the scientific knowledge available to them. It wasn't much at all, but they used it to full advantage.

[ChazInAz]

45. That's right, Nichomachus.

One of the notable things about the Neandertal was the fact that their arms were SHORTER in proportion to their legs than are ours. We could be said to be the knuckle-draggers of the family. Consider something truly unkind, in re: Fundamentalists, to have been said here.

[underpants]

36. as usual-- playing victim

RW radio and Fox News are based on the same staple of BS

[TheKentuckian]

39. One of the funniest things is he thinks he and his fellow knuckle draggers

follow the Bible.

Dude, your economic model is contrary to the entire item just to start.

[Q3JR4]

40. They don't need to be set up. n/t

Q3JR4

[mzteris]

42. so they DO believe in evolution? n/t

[Warren DeMontague]

44. To be fair, that's only because you ARE knuckle-dragging Neanderthals

who need to come into the 21st century.


Actually, "come into the 21st century" sounds kind of dirty, doesn't it?

[DFW]

47. Great headline if you're willing to use small print

"Knuckle-dragging Neanderthals apprehensive of being typified as knuckle-dragging Neanderthals!!"

What do these idiots want? This is about as funny as a Spaniard being scared of being labeled as Hispanic.

[saltpoint]

48. Even if people did conspire to make them look like knuckle-dragging

morons and crazy-asses, our best collective effort could not match how they behave all the time anyway.

There is also the added insult to the nutbags that Barack Obama very likely knows their Biblical texts better than they do, both in content and in context.

[TroglodyteScholar]

49. You're setting yourself up with that shit you believe.... n/t

[peekaloo]

50. Hey Dumb Fuck brush up on your evolution!

as noted up thread Neanderthals weren't knuckle draggers.

Fundies on the other hand.......

[Still Sensible]

51. No Assembly Required! n/t

[Ikonoklast]

52. "Please don't equate people such as yourselves with people like me."

"I am personally offended by your antiquated views on Humanity."

[jwirr]

53. If we are setting them up it sure hasn't taken much work - they did all

of it themselves.

[RainDog]

55. If the govt insists on promoting religious groups in govt issues

it must allow and even encourage a "secular student alliance" - even tho most who are not religious find such forced interaction annoying at best.

and those who are not religious must join such groups b/c the govt forces the issue by pandering to the religious who think they should be given a voice in a secular govt. as religious entities.

but the truth of the matter is that no one should have to waste their time and tax dollars on religious groups in the American govt. Religion is not and has never been the reason or business of the American govt.

It is only because of the fundie assholes that these groups exist at all. So, if this person wants to complain, he has himself and his ilk to blame.

Because the truth of the matter is, if you put religious beliefs up for any critical analysis, literalism and fundamentalism are easily revealed to be BIG LIES that are used to harm others and to infringe upon others' rights as citizens in this nation.

If these people wanted to keep their beliefs in monkeys flying out of the ass of god as a private matter, no one would care what they think or do. But they don't do this.

So, secular student alliance, kick ass.

[theaocp]

56. These people

sure don't have a lot of "faith" if they're even marginally threatened by little ole athiests like me! I just happen to know America has never been a Xian nation, so they need to get a hobby that doesn't threaten those who think differently than they do. Sheesh.

[Overseas]

57. They want to invite rebuke so they can use it against "those liberal elites."

That seems to be their real purpose.

They like to see themselves, the dominant religion in the USA, as poor persecuted believers.

[James48]

58. Newsflash- Christians are socialists.

Acts, Chapter 2:

44 All the believers were together and had everything in common.
45 Selling their possessions and goods, they gave to anyone as he had need.
46 Every day they continued to meet together in the temple courts. They broke bread in their homes and ate together with glad and sincere hearts,
47 praising God and enjoying the favor of all the people. And the Lord added to their number daily those who were being saved.


Acts, Chapter 4:
32 All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of his possessions was his own, but they shared everything they had.
33 With great power the apostles continued to testify to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus, and much grace was upon them all.
34 There were no needy persons among them. For from time to time those who owned lands or houses sold them, brought the money from the sales
35 and put it at the apostles' feet, and it was distributed to anyone as he had need.


If you wish to serve Christ- you have to begin to act like Christians.

Jesus didn't just break break with the saved- he reached out to all.

[pattmarty]

59. I don't think any of the other industrialized nations have the religious...........

...............authoritarians that we have. Sure, some Muslim nations and Israel but not any of "old Europe" anymore. Used to be Italy, France and Ireland were heavy Catholic but that has waned big time in the last 50 yrs. It's really funny that these ass holes can't see how similar they are to the Taliban types. Hey, let's have a game (war) between the Taliban and our christian crazies in the desert in Saudi Arabia or hell even in downtown Jerusalem. We could televise world wide (pay per view, have to keep that "free market" going) it would be a fucking blast.

[sulphurdunn]

60. I can't say for sure

if this is a Christian country, although the attitudes of professed Christians makes me doubt it. There is no doubt, however, that this country has no Christian government, never has had, was never intended to have, should never have and will never have so long as Americans remain Americans, Christian or otherwise. :patriot:

[smoogatz]

61. America never was a Christian nation.

That bit of fundie revisionist history needs to have a stake driven through its fat, greasy heart. If the U.S. was a Christian nation, it would say so in the damn Constitution. It most emphatically does not.

[Kerrytravelers]

64. The Christo-fascist Zombie Brigade is always good for a head shake and a laugh.

"...has bought into the concept that America is no longer a Christian nation."

... as if it ever was.


:rofl:

[The Wizard]

65. Is there a clear definition

of what they mean by a Christian nation?
If they subscribe to times past, do they support slavery?