Man who put up sign calling Democrats parasites is recipient of $1 million in farm subsidies

[proud2BlibKansan]

The Raytown farmer who posted a sign on a semi-truck trailer accusing Democrats of being the “Party of Parasites” received more than $1 million in federal crop subsidies since 1995.

But David Jungerman says the payouts don’t contradict the sign he put up in a corn field in Bates County along U.S. 71 Highway.

“That’s just my money coming back to me,” Jungerman, 72, said Monday. “I pay a lot in taxes. I’m not a parasite.”

After a story about Jungerman’s trailer ran in Sunday’s Star, however, some readers called him a hypocrite for criticizing others for getting government help while taking government subsidies paid for by taxpayers.

Read more: http://www.kansascity.com/2010/06/21/2033746/party-of-parasites-author-took.html#ixzz0rX9hoiNn

[Xipe Totec]

1. H Y P O C R I T E ! ! ! !

[blondeatlast]

4. Exactly. nt

[Oregone]

6. Why? Farms subsidies aren't liberal

They are corporatist shit

[Xipe Totec]

8. Don't expect an argument from me

:me:

[Hissyspit]

47. TRUE conservatives would not take the subsidies.

[MajorChode]

50. They certainly started out as a liberal idea

They were born out of the depression era and FDR's New Deal. The EU (which is arguably far more liberal than the US) uses farm subsidies extensively (although they implement them quite differently than the US). Farm subsidies serve a useful purpose because farming depends a lot on the weather, which is not constant year to year. If farms were forced to operate under a laissez-faire system, much farmland would be abandoned during bumper crop years. Farm land that is abandoned is often very difficult (if not impossible or very impractical) to revert back to farmland. The net result would be much higher prices to the consumer.

The problem with current US farm subsidy policy is it allows large farms to buy out smaller farms using subsidy money. So this is actually an example of good liberal policy which has been hijacked and subverted by so-called conservatives.

[proud2BlibKansan]

7. Someone torched his sign and the paper did a story that got over 500 comments

Most of the comments praised the guy and condemned the arson. But then one guy looked up the guy and found his subsidies and posted the link. Of course the wingnuts all defended him and said he earned this money.

I was stunned to see this article just go up on the paper's website. I guess this means the paper reads the comments.

Guy sounds like a nut with too much money. There was a story in the first article about the police taking his Rolex watch.

http://www.kansascity.com/2010/06/19/2029960/missouri-mans-incendiary-sign.html

I want a subsidy. Maybe then I can finally afford that Rolex I have always wanted.

[pinboy3niner]

19. I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for that Rolex, if i were you. :)

I think you deserve one for the OP, as does the guy who took the initiative to check out this jerk. With so many teabagger idiots (and their adored media and GOP idols) spouting their irrational nonsense, it's hard not to have the feeling we're living in Bizarro World.

I'm impressed that the paper's editors had the sense to pick up on this. Good for them!

[Liberal_in_LA]

60. X 100

[barbtries]

87. thy name is Republican. nt

[sufrommich]

2. "That’s just my money coming back to me,"

Sure it is Mr. Right Wing Parasite Man.:crazy:

[YOY]

5. Betcha he doesn't pay a million in taxes yearly.

Just betcha.

[proud2BlibKansan]

13. He has cleaned up!

According to a farm subsidy data base, Jungerman received $1,095,101 in the past 15 years, including $224,763 in 2000. Last year, he received $34,303.

Read more: http://www.kansascity.com/2010/06/21/2033746/party-of-parasites-author-took.html?mi_pluck_action=comment_submitted&qwxq=749284#Comments_Container#ixzz0rXDCkpQO

[JDPriestly]

90. I bet if you check how much he claims in income and pays in taxes,

he is getting back a big portion of the taxes he pays. Farmers not only get subsidies, but they also get all kinds of tax write-offs for their business costs. Personally, I think the subsidies and the tax write-offs are all warranted. All of us who eat and drink owe the fact that our food is so cheap, at least in part, to that government assistance.

[glitch]

16. They always have a rationale for their psychosis.

Must be part of the disease.

[stubtoe]

79. It all always makes perfect sense to them, somehow.

There is no logic in the traditional sense here.

[Curmudgeoness]

26. When will my money come back to me? Who said our money all comes back?

Jeez. How will the country fund the Defense Department if they give us all our money back---plus interest in his case, I bet.

[AnArmyVeteran]

55. So he's making a fortune and not paying taxes. So we pay for his roads, military and the rest...

What a parasite and hypocrite this right wing thug is. And he is so typical of most conservatives.

[live love laugh]

71. As if he had a million....let alone paid a mill. in taxes. nt

[davidinalameda]

3. farm subsidies are nothing more than welfare!

let's see how he does without the taxpayers covering his ass

[proud2BlibKansan]

9. I have complained about those subsidies for as long as I can remember

I have also noticed that when the right wing talks about government waste they never mention these welfare payments to farmers.

[Diane R]

75. We see it in rural Washington State, too. Those big farmers getting subsidies are right-wingers.

[B Calm]

76. All the big farmers here in Indiana are republicans too. Hell my

neighbor down the road has received millions!

Farm Subsidies Database:

http://farm.ewg.org/

Click the state you’re interested in. Then choose a county in the state. On the left side of the page that will pop up, click the Top Recipients in 1995-2009.

Welfare for the rich!

[proud2BlibKansan]

83. Fascinating info!

Thank you!!

[proud2BlibKansan]

89. Wow I can't thank you enough for that link!

So far I have found an insurance agent I pulled my policy from when he saw me protesting against the war one day and made an obnoxious comment. I canceled my policy with his company the next day. He lives here in the city but has received $60,000 in farm subsidies.

I also found a repuke acquaintance's family. She loves to trash Democrats and thinks Sarah Palin is all that and then some. Her family has received $1,750,000 in subsidies.

I'm looking up all kinds of folks. This is awesome.

[B Calm]

94. I love seeing how much my republican neighbors are sucking off the government! I visit

this site quite often.

Farm Subsidies Database:

http://farm.ewg.org/

Click the state you’re interested in. Then choose a county in the state. On the left side of the page that will pop up, click the Top Recipients in 1995-2009.

Welfare for the rich!

[stubtoe]

80. First ones with their hands out.

[Dappleganger]

86. Right-wing cash cow...

this is the bribery used to secure the conservative vote from farmers all across the US.

[ck4829]

10. Hypocrisy, thy name is teabagger!

[SoxFan]

11. Old fool

"I'm white country folk, can't be a parasite, no sir".

[XOKCowboy]

12. WTF were they thinking? You can see he's a white guy...

He was obviously talking about those brown skinned parasites.

:banghead:

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38. What? nt

[MattBaggins]

39. I will bet a million dollars, my first born son, my left testicle and my soul

That by parasites he means exactly "dark skinned folks".

[proud2BlibKansan]

42. I believe you are likely correct

:)

[BrklynLiberal]

44. bet you will stay totally intact with that bet.

[XOKCowboy]

46. I'll call ya and raise the other testicle

that he fails to see the irony in his billboard. I'm sure it took him completely by surprise that he'd be called a parasite.

[islandmkl]

14. just had to share with my facebook pals...one of whom has just posted that he likes...

'Tea Party Patriots'...

of course, he is a retired (at age 52) civil servant, with about a 50+K pension and full medical, etc...

but, of course #2, he "WORKED FOR ALL HIS BENEFITS", and tough shit if your situation didn't/doesn't provide all that the benefits the Federal Government did for him...

but, hey...what does that have to do with taxpayers' money?

[proud2BlibKansan]

17. LOL I put it on FB also

[mrcheerful]

15. Oh come on who hasn't heard a wing nut who brags about no paying taxes

turns around and say they have a right to say how their tax money is spent. When pointed out that they made the claim to paying no taxes so they should keep their mouths shut, it becomes an entitlement, I was born in the US, I'm a citizen I have a right to say what the government can or can't do. Never fails. Just like old McFarmer ass clown here, I paid for my government handout, BS when you take more then you pay then you are a parasite, can't have it both ways.

[xocet]

18. But there is more to the story...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8600672

[proud2BlibKansan]

22. What a parasitic ass

Thanks for the research!

[xocet]

24. No problem...

I drove past that thing over Memorial Day weekend and about turned around to make sure I'd read it right.

It was good to see the article in the Star, so that I knew who to look up. It is too bad the paper has not also mentioned his company's problem with the US CPSC and the federal lawsuit - which he lost.

[proud2BlibKansan]

28. Perhaps an email to the reporter is in order

:)

[SpiralHawk]

53. Republibloodsucker

Did this Republicon dodge service like all the so-called Republicon 'leaders'?

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36. ooops

[EFerrari]

20. LOL

Good one!

[proud2BlibKansan]

23. Been having this farm subsidy argument here for decades

I hate the things, especially since so many farmers here are NOT poor and don't need the money. But I have friends who are good liberals who come from farm families and defend the subsidies.

One grew up on a farm where her parents still live. No one farms the land anymore. Both her parents have jobs - her dad works at a car dealership as a mechanic and her mom is a teacher. But they get farmer welfare checks every year. For NOT farming.

It's an insanely unjust system.

This guy in the article lives in the city and owns a business but also farms. And he got $33,000 in subsidies last year.

Farmers also don't pay sales tax in Kansas.

I'm sick of this shit. Glad this guy got called out.

[TheDebbieDee]

21. K & R for the hypocrisy!

[Yeahyeah]

25. Hey!I know that guy!That's Dave "The Parasite" Jungerman!

[proud2BlibKansan]

27. Love this comment!

Other business owners who are unable to get a guaranteed profit on their enterprises and efforts don't get a subsidy for their business. It is called corporate welfare. Mr. Jungerman thinks that because the others like him who get millions are somehow better than those who get enough money and assistance to live in ghettos and live a subsidence existence.

Farm subsidies cost taxpayers $25 Billion per year or nearly $82 for every man woman and child in this country. Compare that to the approximately $2.5 Billion it costs to feed 25 million people using food stamps, or approximately $16.5 Billion provided to families through TANF (Temporary Aid to Needy Families - welfare).

Mr. Jungerman has received on average $73,000 per year in corporate welfare yet decries the fact that a family of four receiving both cash and food stamp assistance receives about $16,600 per year or 16.5 times the amount of any individual in one of these families. Sounds like hypocrisy to me.

Read more: http://www.kansascity.com/2010/06/21/2033746/party-of-parasites-author-took.html?qwxq=536389&commentSort=TimeStampDescending&pageNum=1&&&&mi_pluck_action=page_nav#Comments_Container#ixzz0rXMhO17V

[gratuitous]

34. Not to mention that TANF has a lifetime limit

I don't recall exactly, for some reason I think it's five years that a person can receive TANF money, though it could be seven years. AND TANF money has to be paid back. Somehow, I don't think the million plus dollars Mr. Jungerman has taken out of the Treasury is ever going to be paid back.

[proud2BlibKansan]

35. Yes it's 5 years

[Politicalboi]

88. Of course not

It came back to him. LOL! It's like found money for doing nothing.

[WillyT]

29. "Let Them Eat Produce !!!"

:banghead:

:wtf:

K & R !!!

:mad:

[proud2BlibKansan]

30. He's probably growing feed corn

That's more common in this area than corn that people eat. LOL

[The Midway Rebel]

32. Yes, most corn from around these parts ends up feeding chickens in Arkansas or cows in Kansas. n/t

[MissDeeds]

31. Guess it's pretty clear who the parasite is

I hope this story gets a lot of coverage, but somehow I doubt it will.

[B Calm]

74. Be nice if Keith Olbermann picked it up!

[Honeycombe8]

33. Ha! Repubs are AGAINST farm subsidies. Ironic, isn't it? nt

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[4lbs]

40. So, a parasite sucking on the government teat calls Democrats parasites.

Hmm...

[Dawson Leery]

41. Which is why I do not give ANY consideration to the tea parties pleas.

They are the same bitter reactionaries who cry and threaten violence when they don't get their way, such as losing a Presidential election. Rand Paul fits in this category. He opposes government, yet he is a recipient of Medicare. He tells the unemployed to take a lesser salary, yet he demands that his medicare payments not be reduced.

[BrklynLiberal]

43. repuke=hypocrite. it has been shown over and over and over and over...

[SunnySong]

45. We often criticize in others what we know about ourselves to be true. nt

[Touchdown]

48. P2BL... All you had to say was Raytown!

...that says it all!

[proud2BlibKansan]

82. Ah come on. I have friends in Raytown.

And since I live in red state hell Johnson County I try not to play border wars. We all have embarrassing people in our communities.

[Touchdown]

93. I got one on you. I got family in Raytown.

It's why I like Denver better! :P

[DiverDave]

49. I've been paying taxes since I was 14

had to get a special work permit to work with my mom in a restaurant. (I'm 53 now)
So when can I expect my money to "come back to me?"


I aint stoopid, I will never see any SS or anything of my money that went to this hypocrite and others like him.

Sigh, it's almost 4am gotta get to work so I can pay more to this guy.

[B Calm]

73. Spot on! We have to slave and pay our taxes so this hypocrite can have a plush life!

[DiverDave]

85. Man, I'm feeling your sig

but I aint greedy just a Mill would do me fine. :)

[SalmonChantedEvening]

51. He should be forced to set his own sign on fire. nt

[Robert DAH Bruce]

52. Joe the Plumber's cousin?

Someone should look into this!

[Vinnie From Indy]

54. This guy is a nut - He was arrested in the 1990's for "detaining" 4 teenagers

http://mo.findacase.com/research/wfrmDocViewer.aspx/xq/fac.%5Cmo%5CPLS%5C1996%5C19960625_0030.mo.htm/qx

The cops arrested him for detainiing four teenagers allegedly tresspassing on his farm. The cops also allegedly lost his GOLD Rolex watch while booking him and he sued.

[maxsolomon]

81. MY WATCH IS MISSING! MY WATCH IS MISSING!

it was a wallet on Seinfeld, but close enough.

[TalkingDog]

56. His runs a small Corp.located in Kansas City

He seems like a reasonable guy. I'm sure he'd be willing to have a discussion on the subtle differences between welfare and subsidies.

[proud2BlibKansan]

67. He was sued by the Feds last year

Some nice guy. LOL

[redqueen]

57. He might have paid that much in taxes over the years...

but I kinda doubt it.

I'm also positive he gets more than that from the government...that's *just* the subsidies. He also gets his mail delivered, police protection, access to roads, etc.

[Blue Owl]

58. One of Michelle Bachmann's flunkies

nice work there, David Jungerman.

:eyes:

[B Calm]

69. The Bachmann family farm did quite well too with subsidies!

[Liberal_in_LA]

59. K&R

[Soylent Brice]

61. the world is slowly filling up with floating fucking turds like this asshole

and other assholes who are just turning everything into one big pile of steaming hypocritical bullshit.

[quiet.american]

62. “I pay a lot in taxes...." -- Fine. Well then, where's my million, too. nt

[2Design]

63. this is what kills me about these conservatives or rw or republicans - they can't see they are the

ones taking it all - they do transference all the time

[EC]

64. Doesn't he get those subsidies for

NOT producing?

[laughingliberal]

65. I've paid a lot of taxes in my life, too. I'd like to see an end to welfare for the wealthy. nt

[snooper2]

66. 20 more years...and these bastards will be gone

The next generation of folks getting old should have less racists and bigots in their ranks, and so on and so forth...


I look forward to the next couple decades :)

[B Calm]

68. Here's the Link to Farm Subsidies Database

Farm Subsidies Database:

http://farm.ewg.org/

Click the state you’re interested in. Then choose a county in the state. On the left side of the page that will pop up, click the Top Recipients in 1995-2009.

Welfare for the rich!

[B Calm]

70. Never heard of the Democrats Party.

[RedCloud]

72. He should be tombstoned!

I mean, if he is a member of the DU!

[McCamy Taylor]

77. But that's...that's HIS $75 k a year! How dare the Dems try to give $$$ to the poor

when there are so many private businessmen who want it?

[bertman]

78. He may be a hypocrite, but he's definitely a dickhead. nt

[valerief]

84. Wow! How do I get MY money to come back to me???? nt

[depakid]

91. Hyupocrisy is the hallmark of the right

and the most amusing thing is that- like irony, they seem to have some mental deficiency that keeps them from comprehending it.

[JDPriestly]

92. Wikipedia has a good article on farm subsidies.

Here is an excerpt.

The subsidy programs give farmers extra money for their crops and guarantee a price floor. For instance in the 2002 Farm Bill, for every bushel of wheat sold farmers were paid an extra 52 cents and guaranteed a price of 3.86 from 2002–03 and 3.92 from 2004–2007.<17> That is, if the price of wheat in 2002 was 3.80 farmers would get an extra 58 cents per bushel (52 cents plus the $0.06 price difference).

Corn is the top crop for subsidy payments. The Energy Policy Act of 2005 mandates that billions of gallons of ethanol be blended into vehicle fuel each year, guaranteeing demand, but US corn ethanol subsidies are between $5.5 billion and $7.3 billion per year. Producers also benefit from a federal subsidy of 51 cents per gallon, additional state subsidies and, federal crop subsidies that can bring the total to 85 cents per gallon or more.<18> (US corn-ethanol producers are also shielded from competition from cheaper Brazilian sugarcane-ethanol by a 54-cent-per-gallon tariff<19><20>)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agricultural_subsidy

According to Wikipedia tobacco farmers got some subsidies in 2004. What? I hope that tobacco farm subsidies are no longer available.

Of course, some of the subsidies may be for NOT growing crops.