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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 09:21 PM
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Poll question: Will the GOP take the House or Senate later this year?
I'll do this poll a couple more times before the actual election, just taking a mid-June pulse at DU right now...
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 09:23 PM
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1. Unllikely to take either
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 09:24 PM
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2. Better question: why are we even discussing this with any degree of seriousness?
Edited on Tue Jun-22-10 09:25 PM by depakid
Nate Silver's more or less got even odds on losing the majority in the House....
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SkyDaddy7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-10 07:22 AM
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26. I don't think it is really "serious" question...
Just fun to speculate. I say the worst case scenario at this point is we lose the House. I sure hope we don't it will just make problems worse!
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 09:26 PM
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3. I think the recent Arkansas & SC primaries were a preview of November
And there's gonna be massive fraud going on.

Sometimes a massive turnout is enough to beat the fraud. I doubt it's going to be there this time.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 09:27 PM
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4. They may even LOSE a few more seats
People may be angry at the democrats, but at least they take them seriously enough to be mad.

The Republicans are looking more and more like a clown troupe gone bad. The remaining conservatives who take things like honesty and civility seriously have set sail long ago. The GOP will be in eclipse for at least another two decades unless the Democrats, Press, and moneyed interests can pull another rabbit out of the hat like they did almost 40 years ago.

Which means: don't think it can't happen.

--d!
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 09:28 PM
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5. I thought they already had the Senate.
Oh, that's right, they don't. So hard to tell these days.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 09:44 PM
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15. +1
They don't actually need to have the Senate to have the Senate.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 11:35 PM
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21. You've got that right.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 09:29 PM
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6. depends if dems are smart enough to vote
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 09:29 PM
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7. The Pukes thought they were going to take some Senate seats in
key states, but it just isn't coming together for say, Mark Kirk.

They had some hopes to take the New York seat also but Sen. Gillibrand is kicking serious butt in all polling.

I'm waiting for Carly Fiorina to hit the real bright lights of a U.S. Senate race, and waiting for Barbara Boxer to blast her off the stage in their first debate.

I voted we keep both chambers in your poll.

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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 09:30 PM
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8. Given the way they have continually shot themselves in both feet
over the Gulf situation - NO WAY.

Political ads are writing themselves.
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 09:40 PM
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12. That's my feeling
They may energize that group of lunatics, but they frighten away many more moderates
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Unvanguard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 09:31 PM
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9. Probably not, but it is worthy of serious concern.
This is not a time for undue confidence.
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Dawson Leery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 09:36 PM
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10. Most likely not.
Harry and Nancy will most likely be in charge of congress this time next year.
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wolfgangmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 09:40 PM
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11. They will take both.
I don't know why but I have an uncanny knack for calling elections. I have been right about every election since Carter. I realize this could be just co-incidence or I could be on a hot streak which could end any time.

But I think that this election will follow historical patterns and the conservapukes will win seat and take this country back to the right in 2012. I also think that they will lose big time in 2014 after the policies they enact (reenact) cause a lot of pain for a lot of regular folks. In 1929 the country moved to the right but by 1932 it swung back hard to the left and we started to pick up the pieces. I suspect that the pendulum will rebound to the right before swinging hard left.

At least I hope it will swing hard left. In many ways we are not more imperilled or class stratified than we were during the guilded age when bankers also played with others money, leveraging little of their own money to reap / rape big profits at the expense of the country.

But I could be wrong. I'd love to hear other thoughts on this.
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Gaedel Donating Member (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-10 07:59 AM
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29. In 1929, the country didn't move to the right...
"In 1929 the country moved to the right but by 1932 it swung back hard to the left and we started to pick up the pieces. I suspect that the pendulum will rebound to the right before swinging hard left."

Herbert Hoover was much more liberal and more of an internationalist than Calvin Coolidge who he replaced.
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 09:42 PM
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13. one but not both
is my guess, but knowing the GOP's current incompetence, they might blow it again and not take either, the GOP has been screwed for years ever since Bush was their nominee, they have lost their way big time.
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Hassin Bin Sober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 09:42 PM
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14. GOP unlikely to win either House or Senate.
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Dawson Leery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 10:39 PM
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16. kick
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Brother Buzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 10:44 PM
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17. My Magic 8-Ball® says



● Don't count on it
● My reply is no
● My sources say no
Outlook not so good
● Very doubtful
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glen123098 Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 10:51 PM
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18. The GOP will gain seats.
Its customary for the party out of power to gain seats in this country. People have short memories and can't remember this mess was all started under republicans. So they will gain seats. They have a chance of regaining the house, but no chance of regaining the Senate.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 10:58 PM
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19. The GOP is much too fragmented to make any gains.



Probably the only thing I can thank Bush & Cheney for.


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cecilfirefox Donating Member (404 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 11:18 PM
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20. Let's not mince reality folks- 2010 won't be great for us.
However, all elections must be analyzed as they go along. For starters- they need 40 seats to take back the House. I know that it's 39 right now, but I sincerely doubt that Republican in Hawaii will retain that seat during the general when there's only one Democratic challenger on the ballot and not two. That being said, I think there are about 3 or 4 Republican House seats we are likely to take- Joseph Cao being the one the ripest for the picking. Now, you must remember for every seat we win that's another they must win. The GOP could take back 40 seats, but lose 2, 3, or 4 and we still retain the House.

A lot of people draw comparisons to 1994- but I really think that's erroneous. It's best to look at it AND look at 2006. For one, in both elections peoples policy beliefs changed to the party out of power. In 94 people said they changed their mind- they wanted Republican policies, they like what they had. In 06 the opposite happened and we gained 31 seats- needing only 15 at the time to take the House.

We must remember that no ones political clout right now is very good. Not the Presidents, not the Democrats, not the Republicans. All the bitching about Nancy Pelosi that Republicans do would make you think everyone despises her- but truth be told more Americans have a favorable view of her than John Boehner. And the approval ratings for either party are incredibly low right now- for both of them. This, I believe is the big difference between now and 94 and 06. People in 94 dumped the Democrats and the Republican numbers went up, in 06 they did the opposite and we got their backing. Now, no party can lay claim to that- that's a serious difference folks.

We should also look at individual races. My college is located in the 3rd Congressional district of Kansas- always represented by a very conservative Democrat that is now retiring. His wife is likely to take the party nomination, the primary isn't very contentious. The Republican primaries in Kansas are always brutal- it's a moderate vs. conservative war zone with the conservative typically winning. That is why Dennis Moore had never been unseated in this district, they kept running people to far right of the district. Yet, this race is being called a likely Republican pick up by all of the pundints. I just don't see it yet. It is very, very possible- but I'd put my money on the Democrat right now. It's also important to point out that John Murpha's seat was filled with a special election and the Democrat one. Now, that seat was majority white, blue collar, conservative and votes for a Republican President every time- but then votes for a Democratic congressman- and that's exactly the race Republicans were suppose to pick up, and they didn't. That should really make the GOP nervous.

The big difference with the Republican and Democratic party is that the people here are happy to vote for a Blue Dog before allowing a Republican to take the seat. Conservatives, not so much. All of their candidates will be far to the right- and perhaps to conservative for the districts they run in. I think they are genuinely making a gamble about whether or not the country is really leaning that far in their direction idealogically.

We should also analyze things by races- most of our open seats right now that had incumbents who resigned are Democratically leaning districts, that right there is in our favor. We must also remember that a vast majority of these races don't have challengers yet- they don't even have finished primaries! In short, the campaigns haven't even begun.

I think that if we campaign hard as hell, really define our opponents before they can define us and themselves, register the voters, get out the vote, we can still retain the House. The Senate will take big losses but I think we'll still maintain control, probably over the 50 mark.

But make no mistake people! If we loose the House this year it is not going to be a shocker- that is totally in the realm of possibility. It is in the line of how history goes. In fact, these past years between 94 and 06 were really out of the realm of normal in the history of American politics. I believe the biggest seat change was between 7-10 seats. If you look back from the 50's up you'll see that it was totally not uncommon that the Democrats lost 20 seats one cycle, picked them back up the next, lost 30 or 40 in one cycle, and recovered the next- you can also check this on Wikipedia if you want. We've really gotten out of the cycle of history here with this notion that one party will have a solid control for years and years.

I think we could loose 20-30 seats and keep control, but make no mistake this is SERIOUS and it IS CERTAINLY IN THE REALM OF POSSIBILITY. So volunteer your ASSES off in November and FIGHT LIKE HELL.

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Broke In Jersey Donating Member (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-10 06:46 AM
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22. November is a loooooooooooong time away....
anything can happen in that time.....
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Dr Morbius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-10 07:06 AM
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23. It's very early, but I think the Democrats will retain both houses.
I anticipate the GOP will make modest gains and loudly tout that the country is shifting right. Frankly, we on the left should be thankful the GOP is in such a profound state of disarray. The Democratic party has been a disappointment to the base and if the conservatives were able to swing the independents to their side, November could be quite ugly. However, America remains a nation where perhaps a third of the population is anti-government and the rest of us kinda want things to work. The only reason I think the Republicans will make any gains at all is the disillusionment on the left, many of whom will surely skip voting in the fall. If we could achieve anything like the turnout we got in 2006 and 2008 we'd actually gain even more seats in both houses. But angry opponents turn out better than disappointed supporters.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-10 07:14 AM
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24. GOP unlikely to win either House or Senate.
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LatteLibertine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-10 07:18 AM
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25. Obviously, I hope not
Edited on Wed Jun-23-10 07:19 AM by LatteLibertine
We can help prevent that by working to keep morale up and staying positive.

If you happen to have specific issues with the way one thing or another is going, that may be handled in a constructive adult manner.

Low morale among our party = low voter turn for the same which will only aid in putting Republicans back in office.

I'm doing my best to stay active and keep focused for the fall.
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-10 07:27 AM
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27. Unlikely ... unless we on the left continue to fight amongst ourselves ...
If the GOP wins either the House or the Senate .... you should expect their current level of obstructionism to grow astronomically.

Investigations of the white house will begin immediately.
All appointments will be blocked.
The cowardly conserva-Dems will collapse even further.

This is what should be motivating the left.
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A wise Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-10 07:30 AM
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28. Has America become the most.....
ignorant of all ignorance? Have we forgotten about the 8 years of hell under the bush repug's rule over this country? Are we to allow these tea things and the talking points from (Rush, Beck, Palin, Savage, Michelle, Fox etc.) take over this country with all the hate and vile lies they put out over the airwaves? ARE WE NUTS????
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