Bobby Jindal Signs 'Guns-In-Church' Bill Into Law

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Bobby Jindal Signs 'Guns-In-Church' Bill Into Law
Jason Linkins
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First Posted: 07- 7-10 02:04 PM | Updated: 07- 7-10 06:37 PM

If you're like most Americans, there's probably been a time in your life when you've been sitting in church, listening to a particularly ennui-inducing homily or enduring another warbly version of "Holy Holy Holy" and thought, "Man! I could really reach for some steel right now, squeeze off a few rounds, and let these fools know what the score is!" Well, in Louisiana, Governor Bobby Jindal has recently signed into law a measure that would allow you to at least feel comforted by the presence of your gun in the house of the Lord. From the New Orleans Times-Picayune:

Gov. Bobby Jindal has signed into law one of the more controversial bills from the recent legislative session, one allowing guns to be carried into houses of worship.

~snip~

(State Representative Henry) Burns' (R-Haughton) bill would authorize persons who qualified to carry concealed weapons having passed the training and background checks to bring them to churches, mosques, synagogues or other houses of worship as part of a security force.

I am only too sure that a law allowing mosque-goers to carry guns to service will not rile up Louisiana's paranoiacs at all!

Some restrictions apply. The "head of the religious institution" would have to "announce verbally or in weekly newsletters or bulletins that there will be individuals armed on the property as members of the security force," and those lucky individuals would have to receive "eight hours of tactical training each year."

[saltpoint]

1. This man is being whipped through the cosmos by his

own considerable ego and political ambition.

[cornermouse]

2. Definitely violates the spirit of what they should be teaching.

and reason to avoid going to religious services in Louisiana.

[old mark]

3. What better place to carry a gun than in a confined space surrounded

by delusional fanatics...If I ever go to a church again, you bet I'll be carrying...


mark

[JoePhilly]

4. Well, how can you have a holy war if you don't have Jesus bless your gun?

[ericinne]

5. Awesome!!

Now that's a special moment indeed. Something you can really be proud of when speaking to the people. He'll probably spin it to say something about keeping government (except the 2-a), out of religion and how he triumphed over all the liberal, uh god haters, I guess, who aren't Christian enough to realize ya ain't gonna be able to get closer to God and find your spirituality unless your packing heat. A man just can't feel safe in churches these days. Why look at that whack job who went after that one church, and....uh.. oh wait, they were unitarians or something like that... But no matter, the valiant Bobby "Jesus" Jindal has got your back.

[ericinne]

6. PS

So I haven't heard, how is his plans for the enchanted island that will save them all going?

How about just build an ark?

[saltpoint]

7. If you're packin' heat in church and the choir picks a

hymn you don't particularly like, you can fire a warning shot across the pews.

[Ganja Ninja]

8. Nothing instills "faith" like having a gun in your back. n/t

[donco6]

9. Well, that's one place I won't be caught in the crossfire.

So, go for it, I guess.

[Stevenmarc]

10. And after the service we'll be having a covered dish shoot out

[Vickers]

11. I *told* that choir director not to play that fucking "Bringing In The Sheaves" again...

:grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr:

[TheCowsCameHome]

12. "Praise the Lord, now raise your hands over your head and say...."

"holy shit, some asshole has a gun and this is a stick up"

[msongs]

13. yet another enemy of the RKBA gang - more dang restrictions on rights -

"Some restrictions apply. The "head of the religious institution" would have to "announce verbally or in weekly newsletters or bulletins that there will be individuals armed on the property as members of the security force," and those lucky individuals would have to receive "eight hours of tactical training each year."

[spin]

14. There's a catch ... you need yearly training...

Jindal signs guns-in-church law

Louisiana GOP Gov. Bobby Jindal has signed a law allowing holders of concealed-weapons permits to carry guns into houses of worship.

The bill, signed Tuesday night, allows permit holders who take an additional eight hours of tactical training each year to bring a gun into “any church, synagogue, mosque or other similar place of worship.” emphasis added

The bill, sponsored by GOP state Rep. Henry Burns, also requires that the head of the house of worship announce either verbally or in a weekly newsletter to the congregation that its members may be carrying weapons.

Burns’s original bill was killed by a Senate committee, but he was able to revive the proposal by tacking it onto another bill, which extended the length of concealed weapons permits from four years to five years at an annual cost of $25.

The bill will go into effect on August 15.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0710/39466.html#ixzz0t6MqfVzM

[MattBaggins]

18. Modern day poll tax/test.

Poster above mentioned how those good ol' white boys will feel about "muslins" carrying weapons to mosques.

Well this is how they will prevent that. I will bet my bottom dollar that any non whites that go for this training, will be "counseled out" as they say.

[spin]

24. I hadn't considered that possibility ...

I was a little confused at why all this additional training was necessary. That may well explain it.

Many states allow concealed carry in church without additional training.

[Cresent City Kid]

15. Good thing all of Louisiana's other problems were solved

With the Katrina recovery complete, and the oil cleaned up, they were finally able to do something about the church gun shortages. Now the passing of the collection plate becomes interesting, and Mexican standoffs ensue.

</sarcasm>

[Blue For You]

16. In 1963, a TV western was cancelled for having guns in a church.

The series was called "The Dakotas", starred Jack Elam, Chad Everett. There was an episode with a shootout taking place inside a church (actually, a Hollywood set, lol). Religious nuts went ballistic, and the series was virtually axed overnight. Now here we are today, with pistols going hand-in-hand with epistles. Personally, I see all Abrahamic religions as fairly violent and uncivilized, so this guns in places of worship kinda suits the people that flock to those religions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dakotas_%28TV_series%29

[Recursion]

17. Remember when that UU church got shot up 2 years ago?

What about sporadic random violence against Muslims (and, inexplicably, Sikhs)? If a mosque wanted to hire an armed security guard to help prevent that kind of tragedy, they now can.

[Fla_Democrat]

19. What's the problem?

(State Representative Henry) Burns' (R-Haughton) bill would authorize persons who qualified to carry concealed weapons having passed the training and background checks to bring them to churches, mosques, synagogues or other houses of worship as part of a security force.


Is the idea that once they walk through the door they will go apeshit and start shooting every one? They were sane enough outside the doors to have a concealed carry permit, but woah, church, that's a volatile mix. :eyes:

I wonder how many people who see this as a problem, have a base problem with them carrying anywhere else. :smoke:

[Hell Hath No Fury]

23. Maybe for some who follow --

the "Prince of Peace" find the idea of a weapon in that Prince's church rather obscene. I know I would. :shrug:

[Fla_Democrat]

28. I am sure that

every complaint comes from devout followers. :smoke:

[JohnnyBoots]

20. Well, with all the Vampires and Werewolves in Louisiana I can see his point...

[X_Digger]

29. Kick for TB reference ;) n/t

[Tsiyu]

21. Well, since he's on his knees for Blowjob Petro

he has to have a manly way to keep his Cretin base all pumped up with some kind of hate.

And liberals have been ordered by Obama to stand at church doors taking away guns from good christians, dontcha know?


My prediction:

Guns in church + a state devastated by an oilcano, at a time when many are losing unemployment benefits, health insurance, and their homes = lots of potential for very dramatic and "explosive" worship services.


:nuke:

[cap]

22. Right... let's see how far carrying a gun into a mosque

is really going to. I just don't think so.

[Mimosa]

25. This is the law in other states as well because of attacks on churches: check post

There have been quite a few church shooting incidents in the US in the past few years. This is to allow them to have legal security.


February 14, 2010 - Richmond, California - Three hooded men
walk into Gethsemane Church of God in Christ and opened
fire and then fled the scene, as the singing of the choir
was replaced by frightened screams. The two victims, a 14-
year-old boy and a 19-year-old man, were hospitalized.

March 8, 2009 - Maryville, Illinois - Suspect Terry Joe
Sedlacek, 27, of Troy, walks into the First Baptist Church,
and shoots pastor Fred Winters dead, point blank. Several
church members are injured by a knife in the struggle to
capture after the attack, The suspect also had stabbed
himself, but survived, when his gun jams.

July 27, 2008 - Knoxville, Tennessee - A gunman opens fire
in a church during a youth performance, killing two people
and injuring seven.

Dec. 9, 2007 - Colorado - Three people are killed and five
wounded in two shooting rampages, one at a missionary
school in suburban Denver and one at a church in Colorado
Springs. The gunman in the second incident is killed by a
guard.

May 20, 2007 - Moscow, Idaho - A standoff between police
and a suspect in the shootings of three people in a
Presbyterian Church ended with three dead, including one
police officer.

Aug. 12, 2007 - Neosho, Missouri - First Congregational
Church - 3 killed - Eiken Elam Saimon shot and killed the
pastor and two deacons and wounded five others.

May 21, 2006 - Baton Rouge, Louisiana - The Ministry of
Jesus Christ Church - 4 killed - The four at the church who
were shot were members of Erica Bell's family; she was
abducted and murdered elsewhere; Bell's mother, church
pastor Claudia Brown, was seriously wounded - Anthony Bell,
25, was the shooter.

Feb. 26, 2006 - Detroit, Michigan - Zion Hope Missionary
Baptist Church - 2 killed + shooter - Kevin L. Collins, who
reportedly went to the church looking for his girlfriend,
later killed himself.

April 9, 2005 - College Park, Georgia - A 27-year-old
airman died after being shot at a church, where he had once
worked as a security guard.

March 12, 2005 - Brookfield, Wisconsin - Living Church of
God - 7 killed + shooter - Terry Ratzmann opened fire on
the congregation, killing seven and wounding four before
taking his own life.

July 30, 2005 - College Park, Georgia - World Changers
Church International - shooter killed - Air Force Staff
Sgt. John Givens was shot five times by a police officer
after charging the officer, following violent behavior.

Dec. 17, 2004, Garden Grove, Calif.: A veteran musician at
the Crystal Cathedral shoots himself to death after a nine
-hour standoff.

Oct. 5, 2003 - Atlanta, Georgia - Turner Monumental AME
Church - 2 killed + shooter - Shelia Wilson walked into the
church while preparations are being made for service and
shot the pastor, her mother and then herself.

June 10, 2002 - Conception, Missouri - Benedictine
monastery - 2 killed + shooter - Lloyd Robert Jeffress shot
four monks in the monastery killing two and wounding two,
before killing himself.

March 12, 2002 - Lynbrook, New York - Our Lady of Peace
Catholic Church - 2 killed - Peter Troy, a former mental
patient, opens fire during Mass, killing the priest and a
parishioner. He later receives a life sentence.

May 18, 2001 - Hopkinsville, Kentucky - Greater Oak
Missionary Baptist Church - 2 killed - Frederick Radford
stood up in the middle of a revival service and began
shooting at his estranged wife, Nicole Radford, killing her
and a woman trying to help her.

Sept. 15, 1999 - Fort Worth, Texas - Wedgewood Baptist
Church - 7 killed + shooter - Larry Gene Ashbrook shot dead
seven people and injured a further seven at a concert by
Christian rock group Forty Days in Fort Worth, Texas before
killing himself.

April 15, 1999 - Salt Lake City, Utah - LDS Church Family
History Library - 2 killed + shooter - Sergei Babarin, 70,
with a history of mental illness, entered the library,
killed two people and wounded four others before he was
gunned down by police.

[guitar man]

26. "for this morning's selection

we will be introducing a new soloist...the last one sang off-key one time too many, and sister Agnes who just couldn't stand it anymore busted a cap in her ass!"

:hide:

[RagAss]

27. Good !

[Old Troop]

30. I imagine armed people in the pews would improve the delivery if not

the content of sermons.

[ManiacJoe]

31. Carrying in church is not a problem in other states.

Is there something special about Louisiana that should prohibit its law abiding citizens from doing so?