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catnhatnh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-10 08:42 PM
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You have the right to eat....
You have the right to clothing and shelter. You have the right to health care and to have a doctor present when faced with disease, ongoing pain, or avoidable death. If you lack one of these rights and haven't the means to afford them one your elected officials must provide them to you. Do you understand these rights or are you an idiot???

A Miranda for the governments of the world. Just because in a sane world we could do with a few less fighter planes...
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-10 08:48 PM
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1. K&R
Edited on Tue Jul-13-10 08:49 PM by midnight
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-10 08:53 PM
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2. If society accepts those "rights" then society has the "right" to deny you the "right" to procreate
Do you accept that quid pro quo?
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catnhatnh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-10 08:59 PM
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3. No...
There is a pie of wealth. Either all have a right to their share or or shares are only what one may usurp. Are rights divine (owed to each living being) or a commodity?
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-10 09:05 PM
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5. Are you saying you have the "divine" right to create? Please provide a link to that god's web page
so I can verify that commandment?
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-10 09:05 PM
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4. How does that logically follow? nt
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-10 09:09 PM
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6. Simply, the OP claimed some "rights" for individuals and I replied with at least one "right" that
perhaps a majority might claim as a "right" of society.

Whether that is or is not a "right" of society could be determined at the same time society is determining whether each individual has the "rights" claimed in the OP.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-10 09:24 PM
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7. Somebody does not live in Kansas. In a perfect world and universe, this would be so.
This is neither a perfect world or universe.

It is fine to dream, but it is important to know the difference between fantasy and reality.
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-10 02:39 AM
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8. K&R. Unfortunately, our government serves the interests of corporations,

not the working people.
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