some comments in anticipation of dancing on Cheney's grave....

[mike_c]

I know there will be a contingent of DUers who urge decorum and dignity when Cheney dies, and it's looking like that day is drawing closer and closer. I know it's unseemly to celebrate anyone's demise-- even the most heinous criminals deserve respect at the end of their lives. I understand that. I really do. It's even more unseemly to greet the death of former government officials with cheering.

But Dick Cheney is one of the vilest human beings to pollute the earth during my lifetime, and while I'll have some sympathy for his family if his passing causes them sadness, I'll toast his death with the same champagne I drank to celebrate McCain's defeat and the passing of the Bush/Cheney administration in 2008, and I'll happily dance on his grave at every opportunity.

Fair warning: I don't care how much the toads at FR gnash their teeth and wail about our trash talking the VP. I don't care how petty it appears. Dick Cheney is responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands, he is responsible for torture, war, and pestilence. He helped put the evil in our evil foreign policy. I'm convinced that he drinks the blood of children to stay alive.

When Dick Cheney's black heart finally fails, I will celebrate. The world will instantly become a better place.

And like I said in another thread, I hope it hurts, and that he dies alone and afraid. May he atone for the great suffering he has caused the entire planet.

[flvegan]

1. I'll be weeping for our Constitution.

If he gets to die before ever being charged and tried for his various crimes, justice goes unfulfilled.

[mike_c]

3. there is that....

eom

[Individualist]

78. So will I.

[Solly Mack]

130. Yep

[driver8]

138. He will NEVER be charged for his crimes -- there is no way this will happen.

There is no one in our government that has the balls to do this -- he will spend the rest of his miserable life a free man.

I despise this piece of shit more than anyone -- I will keep quiet on the day he finally dies, but I will be dancing on his grave.

[Ken Burch]

153. That's probably what this is about.

I think The Big Dick is trying to pull a Milosevic.

[rosesaylavee]

192. Here here...

[Renew Deal]

2. Ding ding ding: The pro-gravedancing vs. anti-gravedancing fights have begun.

And he's not even gone yet. I need some extra large popcorn for this one.

:popcorn:

[Joe Bacon]

218. I hope that when he dies

He walks up to the Pearly Gates and he finds out that standing right next to St. Peter is James Madison giving him the finger...

And down he goes...

[Hubert Flottz]

4. You left out the part about Bush and Dick clearing the way for BP

to do what it did to the Gulf of Mexico.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

225. +1 zillion n/t

[RandomThoughts]

5. I hope he finds peace and comfort.

Even if you disagree with him, it may have been he had very tough issues on his mind that led him to make those choices. Not that I agree with his choices, but he makes some good choices also.

He also has good thoughts on some things also. I wish him no added suffering.

[BurtWorm]

10. I wish him to get what's coming to him.

From the bottom of my own heart.

[RandomThoughts]

17. Some quotes from a movie. I think on it many times when thinking about peoples faults.

Clint Eastwood made some good movies, they get you to think on things.

Little Bill Daggett: Look son, being a good shot, being quick with a pistol, that don't do no harm, but it don't mean much next to being cool-headed. A man who will keep his head and not get rattled under fire, like as not, he'll kill ya. It ain't so easy to shoot a man anyhow, especially if the son-of-a-bitch is shootin' back at you.

Ned Logan: Yeah, we thought we did. All right, so what did these fellas do? Cheat at cards? Steal some strays? Spit on a rich fella? What?
Will Munny: No, they cut up a woman.
Ned Logan: What?
Will Munny: Yeah, they cut up her face, cut her eyes out, cut her fingers off, cut her tits, everything but her cunty, I suppose.
Ned Logan: I'll be dogg - Golly, I guess they got it comin'. 'Course, you know, Will, if Claudia was alive you wouldn't be doin' this.

Will Munny: You better bury Ned right!... Better not cut up, nor otherwise harm no whores... or I'll come back and kill every one of you sons of bitches.

The Schofield Kid: It don't seem real... how he ain't gonna never breathe again, ever... how he's dead. And the other one too. All on account of pulling a trigger.
Will Munny: It's a hell of a thing, killing a man. Take away all he's got and all he's ever gonna have.
The Schofield Kid: Yeah, well, I guess they had it coming.

Will Munny: We all got it coming, kid.

[WinkyDink]

Cheney isn't in a movie. He has VICES, not mere faults. WTH are you trying to salvage this thing?

[nadinbrzezinski]

207. Let me get this straight

you are comparing an admitted war criminal (Waterboarding is a war crime) with a movie...

No wonder the US is so fucked up. Sadly I fear most folks are now confusing reality with hollywood.

[kenfrequed]

209. Agreed.

I have had discssions with people that should be intelligent and thoughtful (if confused) people that have thrown movie quotes from "A few good Men" at me.

Are people in this country really that friggin dumb? Sadly yes.

[kenfrequed]

210. On the other hand...

It is possible some of it might be slightly more relevant than bible quotations.

[senseandsensibility]

19. I don't entirely agree with the OP

mostly because I find it very difficult to be rude, obnoxious, unkind, or whatever, and because I've been taught all my life to be respectful of those recently dead in order to not upset their families. Still, WHAT good choices could you possibly be referring to?

[RandomThoughts]

29. I would have to discuss my view of his thoughts on topics

It is really complicated, but basically there are some people that think doing bad is their sacrifice for some greater good.

I don't think that is correct, although I know that temptation to think on those thoughts. And I have probably done bad myself thinking it is better. Everyone has.

[senseandsensibility]

41. Frankly

that is not very convincing. I don't know why you're trying so hard to justify his thought process or the decisions he actually made when it's apparent you can't. Maybe you're just playing the devils' advocate, so to speak.:shrug:

[patrice]

216. My guess is that the argument proceeds from the assumption that we are cleansed by

the suffering that Dick Cheney caused and those who are not cleansed (so that we can perceive it anyway) will eventually get theirs.

[WinkyDink]

67. He wanted money. Period. Stop trying to impute some "greater good" where no evidence exists.

[marions ghost]

152. And um...

what "greater good" would that be? Do tell us how Dick sacrificed himself for the greater good.

:eyes:

[colorado_ufo]

169. Dear RandomT.

At first, I thought you were simply a gentle soul. Now, with each successive post, you are scaring the crap out of me.

Up the medication, my friend.

[TheEuclideanOne]

196. Are you on drugs?

I hope that you realize that most people here are puzzled about your position. It is well beyond agreeing or disagreeing with you, it is now to the point that you are showing that you are truly a very stupid individual. I know people that just take the position that "it is bad to say anything bad about a person, even somebody completely vile", but if you asked them about it, they would have a reason to explain their beliefs.

Even if a white supremecist said to a group of people that it is sad that Hitler died, but he did many great things, he would be able to at least follow up that statement with all of the "great" things that Hitler did (at least in a white supremecist's view). People may completely disagree with the guys argument, but at least the guy could make an argument. In this case, you are saying something along the same lines, not backing up anything that you say with any type of reasoning and just ignoring any of the comments because you, yourself do not know why you said it.

Do yourself a favor and please do not post on any discussion board, anywhere, ever.

[JDPriestly]

197. RandomThoughts, are you talking about people who believe

that the ends justify the means? Back when I was in high school, we were taught that the thing that made our system better than the Soviet or NAZI systems was our belief that the ends do not justify the means, that means must themselves be morally correct.

Cheney moved our country into the camp that relied on a philosophy that the ends justify the means. They do not. That is the rationalization of criminals. Criminals tell themselves that the wrongs they do, the crimes they commit are OK because, in the end, they are for a good cause.

Was Cheney a criminal? We should try him and find out how he would fare in front of a jury. And I bet we don't know the half of the evil acts that he authorized and carried out. Evil incarnate, that is what he is.

[patrice]

214. There is a great mystery that makes that a possibility, but the problem is that it IS a mystery, so

any estimation that the bad that I do serves some (un-defined) greater good is a violation, a de-mystification, of that Mystery. Simply put, it is a facile rationalization in excuse for what one wants to do rather than what one should do.

[nadinbrzezinski]

228. In the minds of both Bush and Chenney they didn't do

anything wrong. For that matter neither did Adolph Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, or a few other recent examples.

There is evil in the world. It does exist. And the people perpetrating it think they are doing this for the better good.

And some actions cannot be justified, and in my mind their actions will pursue them after they are worm food. We still speak of the holocaust (and far less than we should) about the Gulags, the Killing Fields, and a slew of other horrors. Well, what we have done in the name of Empire... is up there.

Oh and the perpetrators of Empire believe they are doing the absolute right thing.

[Betty Karlson]

126. Neither do I; the OP needs to get his facts right

"When Dick Cheney's black heart finally fails"

In view of his accomplishments, I take the view that his heart has been failing all along.

[kenfrequed]

208. Wasn't there an eric idle song...

I'm trying to recall how it went. I think it accused Cheney's pacemaker of being a fraud as he didn't have a heart.

[Orrex]

24. Forgive me, but he's a big boy with access to unlimited resources and wealth

If he had "very tough issues on his mind" that caused him to murder hundreds of thousands while destroying our country and shitting on the Constitution, then I hope that he takes two or three thousand years to die slowly and painfully.

A more vile and horrid human being has seldom trod the Earth.


Until someone can give me ironclad documentary evidence that Cheney will reincarnate as some suffering wretch commensurate with the horrors he's wrought during this life, I will comfort myself by wishing the greatest pain and suffering for him.

[RandomThoughts]

31. I don't agree with his view on things either. n/t

[Orrex]

40. I'm certain that you don't

It's just that I'm substantially more comfortable wishing ill fate upon him than you are.


YMMV, but that's fine.

[WinkyDink]

65. It was FAR more than "VIEWS"!!

The man's evil EFFECTS go back to the 1960's!

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2004/03/31/dean

[Chulanowa]

25. I don't

I hope his judgment is passed by the people who's blood coats his hands

[AngryOldDem]

28. What good choices and thoughts are those? n/t

[niyad]

35. good thoughts? good ideas? could you please enlighten us, since, for the life of me, I cannot

think of one single good thing he has ever done or said.

[WinkyDink]

64. Are you speaking of DICK CHENEY?! Ok, I'll bite: Name some of those "good thoughts on some things."

I'm betting you don't.

[CTyankee]

80. I have come to the conclusion that it is bad karma to wish someone dead.

I can't do that. I don't predict it either. I know in my heart that what goes around comes around. I know it just does.

Let's let him go. Let's just mentally imagine putting him into a little canoe and pushing him off into the quiet bay to be taken out to sea. Not violent. With no malice. Just pushing off into the wide sea of the universe and beyond. He will meet what he will meet and we will do the same. Do not bother with him. Think of yourself and yours and the rest of your days here...

It seems to me to be a good plan...

[WinkyDink]

85. I didn't see "wishing." I'm about Karma, too. But I agree with those who will not grieve.

[CTyankee]

88. I do not presume to tell anyone how to grieve for anyone.

It is beyond my power to do this. It is also beyond my power to punish anyone for their sins, altho I can politically work toward that goal in a system of justice.

But I just do not feel it is right to celebrate anyone's death before their time, even tho I would have probably done anything I could to defeat Hitler, including plot to kill him (as a matter of self defense and to save his victims). I know some put Cheney in the Hitler mode but I am hesitant to do that as a history example, altho I would like to see him tried for war crimes and sentenced to a life sentence.

Those are just the rambling of an old liberal...

[WinkyDink]

91. I get it, I get the Donne Meditation, I get the Karma, I understand the Golden Rule. But Hitler can

not be the sole example of "evil people", being the extreme he was. There is evil below the Hitler/Pol Pot/Stalin level.

[CTyankee]

135. Bringing him to justice is an honorable goal and a worthwhile effort.

To me, that is where the energy should be put. I won't grieve for Cheney either, but I can work for everything that stood against. That to me is the way to go...but that is just me...

[WinkyDink]

211. Well, "bringing him to justice" is quite the unicorn.

[freebrew]

162. So, where is the line?

Hitler killed 6 million jews, started a world war. Stalin, Pol Pot hundreds of thousand deaths, maybe more.

My point is, how many people does cheney have to be responsible for killing before he attains the level of those above?

He was involved in the Vietnam war, the first Gulf war, started the second gulf war, allowed torture and justified civilian casualties of unknown numbers.

I think he deserves the status as one of the world's worst.

I won't wish for his death, it will come soon enough.

But then, I will find his grave, I will piss on his grave. It's better than he deserves.

[barbtries]

161. before his time???

he should have been dead years ago. he's way past his natural expiration date.

[havocmom]

119. Would prefer he had been prosecuted to the fullest extent of international law first,

but we all die. I don't wish death on him, but I will celebrate when nature takes its course. He got a better deal than he gave thousands. I will not mourn when he passes. Others like him need to know they will not be mourned, but cheered, at their passing.

[tomp]

134. i'm okay with that....

....as long as we forcefully and clearly sum up the evil that was his life so as not to repeat it.

obama should be made to sit in the front of that class.

[donheld]

106. Oh give me a break

After all the damage he's done how can anyone take up for him is way beyond me.

[sofa king]

136. I hope there is a Hell, that he may never enjoy those things again.

That man is unquestionably a criminal mind of some sort; in my opinion he's a sociopath. Whatever was on his mind at the time he made the decisions which condemned six billion people to a lower quality of life, forever, those thoughts are not the kind of thoughts that pass through the mind of a decent, law abiding person like you or me. It is exceedingly dangerous to ascribe human thoughts and emotions to a sociopath like Dick Cheney--they will only use those preconceptions against you. And, as we can clearly see now, that's just what he did.

The good thoughts he has, like his lenient stance on homosexuality, stem directly from his need to justify the facts of his personal life (specifically, his gay daughter) with his wingnut beliefs. Cheney, a conservative's conservative, can't hate on the gays like everyone else because doing so would diminish his own parental accomplishments in his sociopathic mind. That's the only reason he's not a homophobe.

A similar example of this sort of conservative hypocrisy was the parade of contemporary and former Bush Administration lackeys who came out against the war the moment one of their own children was drawn into it (but never, ever, before that). They didn't arrive at that decision because the wars they started were evil and wrong. They arrived at that because something they cared about was actually, finally affected by those evil wars. (Edit: These examples show one of the primary traits of the sociopath: inability to empathize with others. They didn't care about the war, or gay rights, until those things personally influenced them. You may think you are empathizing with them, but what you are actually doing is ascribing false feelings and motivations to them, which, if they can, they can, will, and already have used against you.)

The world is going to instantly become a better place with the passing of Dick Cheney, and I for one plan to celebrate it.

[joe black]

144. What!

I think about the Iraq children with their burnt bodies and their arms and legs missing. No sir I have zero compassion for the hideous beast.

[patrice]

219. 1+~ And OH! the Shame!!! We are paying $$$$$$$$~ for it!

[cliffordu]

151. LOL.....

[T Wolf]

157. Name ONE good thing about it... nt

[TheEuclideanOne]

189. You are right, he did have good thoughts and good choices. Remember, he....

oh crap, not a single one comes to mind. Can you kindly list the ones you are thinking of?

[JDPriestly]

193. RandomThoughts: What good choices did Cheney make?

I honestly don't know of one, not a single one.

[Lucian]

195. He doesn't deserve peace and comfort for all the shit he's done.

[HERVEPA]

199. Huh?

What good choices? Name one!
As others have said, he is responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths and injuries, environmental disasters, election theft, and much more.

[JitterbugPerfume]

6. In the event of his demise

silence is golden

and classy

[Cleita]

7. I will be breathing a sigh of relief.

Now if Dumbya trips on a pretzel and never gets up, then I will grave dance.

[Old and In the Way]

8. World-class war monger / war profiteer

He made millions using his political power to start wars. He made millions using his corporate power to trade with US enemies when he was out of government. He made millions by taking military logistics private. My only regret is that we didn't have the fortitude to hold him accountable for all of his criminal misdeeds.

[jobycom]

9. Why not? You know he'd dance on your grave. So, be like him. nt

[polmaven]

42. I would prefer to NOT be like him...

Not in ANY way, thank you very much. While I will not grieve upon his death, I will not celebrate it either. I will simply keep quiet.

[jobycom]

45. That will likely be my response as well.

It has nothing to do with Cheney, really. I just think it's disgusting to celebrate someone's death while people are that freshly grieving.

[havocmom]

204. Easy not to be like him: don't torture and kill. don't deny rights, don't betray America

He really wouldn't dance on any of our graves. We aren't important to us. But he did amass a very large pile of loot from having others destroyed.

[spinbaby]

84. I prefer not to be evil

But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you...

[Occulus]

117. No, joby. You have it wrong.

It's the exact opposite of what you're saying; that's what makes it so much worse- and ever so much more dangerous to our nation and the rest of the world.

Dick Cheney wouldn't be dancing on our graves because we're invisible to him. We are, to Dick Cheney, numbers and statistics and consumers, nothing more. To have that kind of thinking, that extremely "corporate governance" mentality in place, and to have it developing public policy is, to me at least, chilling. "15 Afghan Civilians Killed while Playing Soccer Match" has, to Dick Cheney, the emotional equivalence of "please pass the butter" or "I see a bird". I'm very firmly convinced that he has nothing resembling compassion, empathy, or common decency.

He doesn't care who we are, because we're so far "beneath" his lofty perch that he can't even see us or relate to us. That said, death is the Great Equalizer. After, he will have no say, will not participate, and can no longer wreak havoc on the rest of the world.

You can crease your brow and wag your finger all you like but, by any objective reasonable measure, the world will be a demonstrably better place to nearly all of humanity once Dick Cheney leaves it, and that's a totally acceptable cause for celebration.

[jobycom]

149. No, I don't have it wrong.

You are thinking individually, as though it is all about you. I'm talking collectively. Cheney would dance on the grave of the Party, Cheney would dance on the grave of liberalism. Cheney would dance on your grave.

Celebrating someone's death when they die is wrong. There's no debate possible. You are spreading grief by taunting people in pain. You are acting singular, in that you think one life has any real influence on the world. You are thinking like a Republican, where everyone is a good guy or a bad guy and the world is affected by it. That's exactly the problem with this nation. It's all about me, and no one else's life matters.

You celebrate Cheney's death. They celebrate Clinton's. America celebrates Hussein's. Our media celebrates any time the number two guy in Al Qaiada dies. It's all selfish, short-sighted, ignorant ego-ism, and it's the root of all problems. You celebrate Cheney's death, and the world sucks a little more, and their side wins a little more. A lot more, actually, because you destroy any chance we have of forming an opposite side.

Probably over your head. Sorry to worry you with it. Go buy your tap shoes, I'll leave you alone.

[barbtries]

164. okay. i won't dance on his grave.

but if i see some big state funeral or a flag at half staff or hear speeches about what a great man that was, i'll - i'll - i'll SCREAM!!

so it's a good bet i'll be screaming when he dies. assuming i'll still be alive when that happens.

[jobycom]

174. That's why I'm hoping I'm at Disney World.

I've never hated anyone as much as I hated Reagan. I read that he had died late one evening after spending all day at Magic Kingdom. I really felt nothing at all about it. But if I'd have had to see tributes to him, I'd have screamed, too. :) So I'm hoping I can miss all that when Cheney dies, too. And I'm not predicting it to happen early, nor hoping it happens early. If anything, I wish him a long life with much time for soul searching. I wish him a long period of understanding with his daughter, I wish him a period of redemption. I firmly hope he does in 60 years, with plenty of time to reflect onhis life and to understand the evil deeds he committed and a chance to see history degrade and undo all the evil he brought to this world. The only thing about his death that would bring me joy would be for him to have repented of and denounced his life's work, his mistaken ideology, and to have mourned all the pain and suffering he has caused. The only good death is a death like Lee Atwater's, where he saw clearly what he had done and worked to at least apologize for it for the remainder of his time. That's the only death I can celebrate, and it's more a celebration of his becoming decent before he dies. I'm not even being altruistic or benevolent there, because I know there is a large amount of grief and suffering in understanding one's evils like that.

If any of that makes sense. :)

[Occulus]

185. "You are thinking individually, as though it is all about you."

I never once implied, or even came close to implying, anything of the kind. The language I used was entirely "our", "we", and "us"; never once did I tie, or attempt to tie, his behavior to me, individually, and I wasn't ever at all thinking about myself as a individual when I made that post except when I spoke of a sociopathic corporate attitude present in the halls of Congress, and how I found it personally chilling.

The intent of my language was crystal-clear and unambiguous. You did get it wrong- twice over.

[jobycom]

223. Well then you're doubly wrong.

To me your post implied he wasn't going to dance on any of our graves because we were all too small to matter. I said collectively he notices us, and he would dance on our collective grave, as a force united behind ideals of truth, peace, life, etc.

If I misunderstood that, and you are just saying he isn't afraid of us collectively, that he doesn't think we are his chief enemy, that we as a moral force don't matter to him, you're just wrong. His life has centered around opposing us. He labeled us traitors, cowards, and whatever other names he could think of because he knew that we were what stood between him and his plans.

The fuck he doesn't notice us. The fuck he doesn't want us dead. His whole administration was about killing us. The fuck he won't dance on our graves.

[arcane1]

11. "even the most heinous criminals deserve respect at the end of their lives"

I've never understood that sentiment.

The Dick will likely check out while under heavy medication and never know what hit him. And that's a damned shame.

[RandomThoughts]

44. basically the quotes from that movie.

Are the concept of not throwing the first stone, although it throws stones, we all do sometimes, it talks about that concept. Real deep film.

Basically I disagree with Cheney, and go against his policies, and people with his policies.

But I will not wish anyone suffering after death, and know it is not for me to judge such things, so I would rather hope that nobody has a bad fate in such a thing, and hope for the best.

[TheEuclideanOne]

190. Your rhetoric is very empty.

You say things like, he had good choices and thoughts, but you do not know any of them, so why even say that. Do you feel the same way about Hitler?

[JDPriestly]

198. I agree with you in that I would never wish suffering on anyone.

It does not change the fact, however, that Cheney is evil incarnate. Imagine filling the face of one of your friends with, what was it, buckshot? Not reporting yourself to the police until after you had had time to sober up (whether you were drunk or not at the time of the shooting)? Even on a very personal level, Cheney is just scum.

Just scum. Just vermin. Just the worst of the worst.

Still, I agree with you that I do not wish personal suffering on anyone.

[glitch]

105. Out of respect for Life itself, no matter how badly it's represented. nt

[hatrack]

108. I never figured that out. Why? Because a life ill-spent is ending?

That's like saying I should respect/enjoy/write positive reviews of a movie that really, really sucked because the credits are about to roll.

[mike_c]

147. my personal sense is that at the moment of death...

...everything in life is stripped away. It's all irrelevant. When the organs begin shutting down, we all die as equals. It's ground everyone will walk, sooner or later. That's why I accept the notion that even the worst criminals deserve respect at the moment of their deaths-- at that moment, everyone is the same.

I feel the same way about Cheney-- it's just that my disgust for him is so deep that I'll celebrate his demise because it will make the world a better place. The same might be true of many people, but Cheney is one of relatively few evil persons who has affected me personally. I'm looking forward to his death because I'm looking forward to living in a world he no longer pollutes.

[bdamomma]

133. death for him is the easy way out sorry he needs to suffer.

[niyad]

12. thank you for reminding me--I need to get another bottle of champagne chilled and waiting.

I won't feel sorry for his family, either. they have to know what kind of evil slimeball he is, and they are complicit in all his crimes.

[Erose999]

13. Joining the Grave Dancer's Union. I wouldn't wish pain or death on anybody, BUT

when Karma hand them their well deserved share of it I will gloat about it.

[Erose999]

112. Anybody want a Hot Pocket? I feel like enjoying some microwaved foods

in honor of Dick Cheney's service to our nation.

[Richardo]

14. Who's going to go into a white hot rage when the President and Veep attend the funeral?

Show of hands.

[Donnachaidh]

53. I'll reserve my white hot rage for the non-stop puking of Cheney's *contributions to America*

we ALL will have to deal with from the Corporate Media Complex.

:grr:

[Robeson]

111. Yep. It will be disgusting as they will actually attempt to deify the prick.

[barbtries]

165. here.

see upthread. cheney should be vilified now and after his death and for all history. and the president, even if it's obama, will probably offer a eulogy.

i can almost feel the frustration.

[malaise]

15. I only have two words to say

Fugging ditto :hi:

[Lars39]

16. I will be sad because he represents a squandered life.

I'll get over that in about 10 seconds and then I'll be out in my front yard dancing.

[stray cat]

18. Just don't condemn anyone else on the board when they dance on someone else's grave

[mike_c]

22. it's personal-- I HATE Cheney with a vengence....

Most times I avoid grave dancing and such because my head overrules my heart. Thinking overcomes passion. But not with Cheney. It's too personal. He is the face on everything I was made ashamed of in my country these last several years, even more so than Bush.

I can own my pettiness this time around.

[onehandle]

20. I won't celebrate. When I find a dead bug in the house, I sweep it up and forget it.

Out of office, he is nobody.

[SusanaMontana41]

93. I'd prefer that he live a long life and die in jail

Failing that, I'm satisfied that he is reaping some of what he sowed.

[jberryhill]

21. He will be interred in an undisclosed location to resist gravedancing anyway

Aside from which, on nights with a full moon, he'll be up and about like the rest of us.

[notadmblnd]

23. His own family will probably do the happy dance.

[Better Today]

26. Uhm, is there news about his condition that indicates this is near? I've been out

most of the day and have to turn around and head out ASAP again. So if anyone has a quick link to this info, I'd like to read it before I go.

[mike_c]

30. check LBN....

He just had a left ventricular assist installed. He won't live long now without a transplant, and I doubt that he's a transplant candidate.

[AngryOldDem]

34. For your convenience...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4464947


Several threads going in LBN about this.

[Better Today]

39. Thank you.

[AngryOldDem]

27. Well said.

He is one reprehensible human being. Completely and utterly soulless. I don't know what I believe, exactly, about the afterlife, but in this instance I hope he does have to answer to some Higher Being about his existence here on Earth.

[EFerrari]

32. I didn't know that kind of evil could just stop.

If it does, I'll be relieved.

[JuniperLea]

37. I'm sure he'll just shape-shift...

Be very, very afraid!

[EFerrari]

47. Yikes! Maybe *that's* why the Chupacabras was trending on Yahoo!

[JuniperLea]

48. LOL!

Follow the money, honey!

:rofl:

[formercia]

33. There should be a vending machine at Cheney's graveside

so visitors can purchase a Urinal Mint to place on his grave.

[LongTomH]

63. +10

:rofl:

[slay]

172. Only if

the mint is really a type of poison that can still effect him in the afterlife. :P (Not a bad idea though - the pissing WILL happen unless his grave is guarded 24/7).

[Dr Morbius]

36. Well, I don't care for the man, and I agree the world will be a better place...

...if and when he does die. However, I very strongly feel that it's wrong to "diss the dead." The dead, being unable to defend themselves, are as far as I'm concerned off-limits. So, without any personal affront intended to yourself or anyone else, I oppose "grave-dancing" on principle.

Even when the man is evil. For me it's all about restraining one's attacks to those able to defend themselves, and that's why I am against speaking ill of the dead. Now, having written that, I have absolutely no intention to defend the man if in fact he passes on and the left begins to celebrate. I won't be the one who ruins the party, and I won't be complaining to the authorities if someone does start dancing on Cheney's grave. I just won't participate.

Myself, I'd like to see him stand trial and go to prison, and I would prefer he stays around until that happens. I suspect Mr. Cheney got to power by knowing "...where the bodies are buried," so to speak. I imagine a lot of people in Washington will be happy to hear of his passing, as their secrets die with Cheney.

[LongTomH]

38. I'd spit on his grave!

Except I hate waiting in line -- especially long lines!!!!
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[BR_Parkway]

43. I want him to live to 110 - behind bars, in an orange suit - stripped of

everything he held dear and convicted of war crimes.

[jgraz]

46. Yep. Nothing will be more tragic than Cheney dying a free man.

Wel... maybe Bush dying a free man, but it's a close call.

[ladywnch]

224. Not only will he die a free man, he will be afforded a State funeral with honors.

It will be the final injury inflicted upon us by this pestilent puss sac.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

49. Affecting decorum and dignity when Cheney dies would be indecorous and undignified.

It's like algebra. Minus times minus yields plus. Being nice to an asshole is, in my opinion, rude.

[kenny blankenship]

99. Exactly! Why make the situation worse by lying about how you really feel?

If you feel that logging on to DU to celebrate with others would look like an ugly mob cheering in an echo chamber, and a shameful amount of energy spent to no good end, be constructive instead. Why not go to a Republican neighborhood and let off some fireworks?

[ANewProgressive]

50. Disgusting

I dislike Cheney very much. I feel that many of the policies enacted by him and the rest of the Bush administration have been nothing but harmful to America and its people, however, celebrating a man's death is absolutely disgusting and, in my opinion, even more so than the policies he helped enact. You certainly do not have to mourn, I know I will not. You don't have to go out of your way to say nice things about him, once again, you won't find me doing that. What you should do however is maintain at least a shred of your own dignity, respect the fact that the man is survived by people who love him and will mourn his passing. Take the high road here.

[EFerrari]

52. I see zip undignified in the OP.

And since it's not clear that the Cheneys are human, it's not clear that they mourn.

[ANewProgressive]

56. Speaks volumes about one's character...

when they condemn an entire man's family and wish them pain and suffering because of the actions of one man.

[mike_c]

60. with all due respect...

...I think perhaps you should read my comments again. In general I agree with you. I simply do not intend to extend that courtesy to Cheney, whom I do not think deserves it. I can utterly own my karma in that regard.

Further, I wish only him ill, not his family. As I said, their grief deserves compassion. But the man himself warrants none, IMO.

I don't often celebrate anyone's suffering or death. But I decided long ago to make an exception for Cheney. Like many who've responded in this thread, my only regret when he dies will be that he cheated justice.

[ANewProgressive]

70. I guess I can't really argue with you then

Since you are willing to accept the fact that what you are doing wrong but you choose to do it anyway and "own your own karma", I can't argue with that. I respect the fact that you are actually willing to own up to it unlike the many others who fail to see that it is wrong. I don't understand why you would willingly do something you view as wrong but I am grateful to see someone admit it for once.

[Arugula Latte]

215. His family is a rotten bunch, too. Evil wife, evil daughter (Liz)

[Donnachaidh]

54. what's disgusting is all the posers talking about taking *the high road*

I'm sure all the ghosts of the people he helped to slaughter applaud the high horses being dragged out in this thread. :eyes:

[ANewProgressive]

58. Failure to understand on your part.

I'm not asking you to respect the man, I'm asking you to have some respect towards his family and not to sink to undignified levels.

[Lars39]

66. The family that's trying to further his policies? That family?

[smokey nj]

69. They're not a family, they're an organized crime ring.

[ANewProgressive]

71. Grandkids

So his six grandkids who surely love the man are organized crime and scum of the Earth too huh?

[smokey nj]

72. You called them scum of the earth, not me.

[ANewProgressive]

74. Nice dodge.

When logical arguments fail, resort to dodging the issue with semantics. Sounds like a sound debating strategy to me :eyes:

[Name removed]

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[lapislzi]

137. I have some compassion for his family's grief

As I would for any human suffering. However, far from being saddened by his passing, I will have mixed feelings: regret that he escaped justice, and relief that he can do no further harm.

Since I don't believe in karma, I don't believe my ill-wishing will come back on me.

[Name removed]

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[robertpaulsen]

89. I will be dignified. I'll open a bottle of 100% Cabernet Franc aging on my rack since 12/12/00. n/t

[WinkyDink]

92. Nope. gonna take my dignity to the low road, and hope the crowds don't jostle me.

[Sebastian Doyle]

97. Yeah, right.

Anchovies on that?

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

101. Thank you for your concern.

[Doctor_J]

129. He is an evil mass murderer

I will celebrate his death like I would any such criminal. As for his family, they seem to have no more regard for human life and for this country than Dick himself.

[Doctor_J]

51. While you're dancing, watch out for that little puddle

I plan to take an asparagus piss on the black-hearted bastard.

[Caretha]

55. I'm sorry but I have to disagree

"even the most heinous criminals deserve respect at the end of their lives".

No they don't, most emphatically they don't! I shed no tears for putting down a rapid animal or it's demise. That is truly the sad thing, the only thing to feel sorry about, that humans are sometimes no better than rabid animals.

[pipi_k]

57. How I plan on dealing with his eventual demise...

I won't grave dance.

But I also won't shed any tears. His death will mean about as much to me as would the death of a mosquito 2000 miles away.

"Oh, really? Dick Cheney dead, you say? Hmmm...what am I making for dinner tonight?"

:shrug:

[Larry Ogg]

59. Unfortunately when it comes to evil,

Dick Cheney is only a drop in the bucket... And it might seem as though one less drop of evil is a good thing, but I think that assumption is both naive and dangerous, because most people don't even have a clue as to what a disease evil is, as demonstrated by the hypnotized delusional sheep that have been brainwashed into believing that psychopaths like Dick Cheney are to be emulated as some kind of hero in this dog eat dog world. So even when Cheney goes to hell, hundreds of millions of people will be enduring and suffering from the mental plague and insanity he helped to proliferate, but again, when it comes to evil, the psychopath Dick Cheney is only a drop in the bucket, and psychopaths own and run the world…

[glitch]

107. Schadenfreude-killer. nt

[Larry Ogg]

131. Never heard of Schadenfreude-killer before but maybe Gorge Bush can show us an example...

Warning the following video might upset some viewers; parental digression is advised.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgYGOpYgFnM&feature=related

[superduperfarleft]

61. There are few people whom I actively wish death upon.

Even fucking Reagan, I felt bad for his family when he died, having lost my father shortly before that.

Still, when Cheney dies, I don't care how classless, low road, whatever I look. Fuck that piece of shit. It's bad enough I have to help pay to keep that son of bitch breathing when he should've died years ago had nature been allowed to take its course, I'm definitely not going to waste a single flying fuck on him.

And as for the loonies on the right that will read this and gnash their teeth about how this is proof that liberals are hate-filled, intolerant, blah blah blah, I wonder if you felt the same way before making jokes about Rachel Corrie, or Howard Zinn, or Ted Kennedy.

[WinkyDink]

62. I'm with you. The Mills of God are sure grinding slowly with this evil.

[walldude]

68. Death is too good for Cheney...

Prison...

[uppityperson]

73. Most gravedancing threads I dislike. This one is ok.

[warren pease]

76. And the entire civilized world will join in the dance...

A planetary festival unprecedented in recorded history. Any tears shed would be tears of joy. The intertubes would stream everything live from all the major cities on every continent.

Even the penguins would party down on whatever's left of the Antarctic ice. Polar bears would be exchanging high-fives and fist bumps and chest thumps on icebergs all across the brand new shipping channels of the Arctic Ocean.

In less developed countries, the word would go out by word of mouth, drummers would pound it out, even smoke signals might make a comeback. Modern Paul Reveres would ride like the wind from village to town to wide spot in the road proclaiming the news of the world-wide reprieve.

The Islamic nations of the Middle East, which probably have the most to lose by his continued existence and the most riding on his immediate departure, would break all religious proscriptions against promiscuity, debauchery and public drunkenness. Hashish consumption would break all previous records.

The only somber voices would be those of the hypocrite blowhards on US TV news, and even some of them couldn't keep straight faces for their entire time on camera.

Fux Nudes would pimp some neo-ditz and archetype of vapid republican female obliviousness, who would read a prepared statement citing his long and noble record of public service.

When a quarter or half ends on stupor bowl sunday, urban legend has it that water pressure goes way down in just about all population centers because hundreds of thousands of toilets are flushing all that second-hand Bud lite swill into the sewer system.

It's likely that about two paragraphs into the prepared statement, the same phenomenon would occur, but for a different reason.

Tens of millions would piss themselves because they had reached a state of gaga giddiness that prevented control of their bladders. Millions more would be laughing so hard that their gag reflexes kicked in and they actually puked in ecstasy. And the remaining hundreds of millions would be busy flushing their new RFID chips from passports, cell phones and other common items the fascist bastard has commandeered as surveillance devices and GPS-compliant locators.

I think that about covers it, except for the millions of church bells ringing out the uninhibited joy of the earth's entire population from every corner of the planet.

Oh, and my cats would probably nab a small defenseless rodent in celebration.

Now if only the Giants would start driving in some runs...

Edited to add: Meanwhile, have another pretzel, Georgie.



wp

[Caretha]

113. Eloquent

and exactly. Wish I could have said it the same way, but I'm sure history will vindicate your words, just as they have for every despot that has been of the same caliber as the Darth Vader of our times and theirs.

[Canuckistanian]

77. Dancing shoes? Check. Funeral dirge cued up? Check.

I'm ready.

[LiberalEsto]

79. How dare you...

call him a human being!

[mike_c]

81. I'm feeling generous today....

Even the undead have feelings, you know. :rofl:

[Proud Liberal Dem]

82. I can only imagine the outrage and teeth gnashing here at DU

when President Obama, Vice President Biden, and/or some high-ranking Democrat (probably somebody other than Senator Leahy) have to make the politically perfunctory *positive* statement(s) about Cheney before, during, and shortly after his undeserved lavish state funeral/memorial. No matter how much we all here (and elsewhere) despise the guy's guts for all of the deep harm he and his aides caused the country during the eight years of Bushco, no Democratic politician IMHO will be *authorized* to launch any huge public attacks against him in the corporate media. I just hope we all keep that in mind during the nearly endless corporate media coverage of that *event* when it inevitably happens. And don't forget, we'll still have to deal with his spawn (aka Liz Cheney). :eyes:

[fascisthunter]

86. I'll Bring the Disco Ball and Watch

too tired to dance, but I'm there in spirit.

[Iggo]

87. Fuck that motherfucker.

Sideways, and with sandpaper.

[nannah]

90. proof that there is no god: dick cheney is still alive. n/t

[ThoughtCriminal]

94. Out of respect for his family...

...oh... wait. Never mind.

[Jakes Progress]

95. I don't want him dead. I want him in jail.

[EmeraldCityGrl]

96. I really do hope he feels the fear he has personally inflected on so many

innocent people. Remember this is the man that approved of waterboarding and CHF is a little bit like slowly dying of waterboarding, imagine that.

Of course there are people that would have said the same nice comments about Hitler. They think they come off as Christian like. I think they're hypocrites.

[Ahpook]

98. I only hope these greedy fuckers understand one thing

You willed this toxic world to your children, as well as theirs.

But, they don't understand that do they? They THINK they are above it! Or maybe scum like him doesn't even care?

Maybe we don't understand what runs through the minds of these sociopaths?

Think Ted Bundy? Only thing they care about is themselves

Fuck him! He needs to spend the rest of his sorry ass life in a cell.

[scarletwoman]

100. Who would mourn the death of cancerous tumor? Not I, that's for certain.

There are deaths that ought rightfully be celebrated. I number Dick Cheney and Henry Kissinger among those.

There are carriers of pure evil among us. When one of them passes, it is indeed a cause for celebration. Not that their passing will eliminate human evil, yet the loss of any single carrier is a net win for humanity.

To celebrate the death of a vehicle for evil is an act of affirmation of our better selves, imo. When such psychopaths attain as much power as Cheney and Kissinger have, they inhibit our collective progress toward a humane, peaceful, and sustainable future on this earth.

It is right and just to celebrate the passing of such monsters. They made their choices freely.

sw

[Dr Morbius]

102. I went and read the story.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100715/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_cheney_heart_surgery

Apparently the life expectancy on this artificial valve is a couple years. The death-watch is going to have to wait a bit, I expect. I believe Mr. Cheney will be with us for several years to come.

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

103. I won't be dancing - I hate waiting in lines.

[slay]

173. lol

:rofl:

[BlueCheese]

104. ...

I don't like Dick Cheney either. He was probably the biggest force behind most of the things I hated about the eight dark years of the Bush administration. I am extremely thankful that he is no longer anywhere near the levers of power in the executive branch. Having said that, I don't think I can really celebrate anyone's death.

And just to remind myself that very few people are completely beyond hope--Cheney does support gay marriage.

[NotThisTime]

109. I won't dance on his grave...

I wish Dick Cheney the same as I wish any other War Criminal, to die with the same amount of pain they have inflicted on others.... feel for his family? Who? Liz? Out furthering his agenda and profiteering just as her father did over the American's fear's? I won't mourn for her loss. She has become his mouth piece and as such I feel no sorrow for her. His wife, well, I'll feel for his wife...

What continues to gall me, is that he is receiving better treatment than 99% of us would ever get, yet he cannot understand, refuses to understand we are all entitled to proper medical care. The fact that as a sick man he cannot see this speaks volumes over his own opinion of human rights. For that type of person I cannot feel sorry and nor will I apologize for it.

[Voltaire]

163. His wife is as slimey as he is

Lynne Cheney is no self-sacrificing stay at home saint, she is as heavily into the collective evil that is the GOP as her husband. No use feeling for her either.

[glitch]

110. He won't die until 12/12/12, as a harbinger of a New Age.

Or something like that.

No reason why you can't start dancing now though, dancing is good.

[akbacchus_BC]

114. He has a family who will be devastated if he passes, Is this necessary?

This should be locked ... when we start becoming them, there will be no salvation!

This is so wrong!

[havocmom]

118. He devestated Hundreds of thousands of families

If his family was worth a tinkers damn, they would have stopped his reign of terror.

People celebrate when evil tyrants finally stop hurting people. And they should.

[akbacchus_BC]

121. How come you beating up on Cheney, the most wicked person is

Colin Powell, he went to the UN Security Council and convinced them that Iraq had WPD. One thing am sorry about, rather than hanging Hussein, Cheney and Bush should have got the same treatment, but your precious obama is giving them a pass!

[havocmom]

124. Powell did not dictate the war. Cheney did

How come you defend the war criminal who also destroyed the Constitution, and pretty well finished up the corporate takeover of this country?

War criminal and traitor

While I am no fan of Powell, at least he put the uniform on and served under the policies of the civilian leadership. Cheney, chickenhawk had other priorities but always found time to hurt whole nations for corporate profit and control of whole nations.

Oh, and Obama is not my 'precious' anything. He was not my choice in the primaries and I feel perfectly comfortable criticizing him when I feel he is on the wrong course. It happens all too often of late, but hey, he is the own who told us to hold him to doing what is right. I am taking him at his word

But the topic, I believe, was Cheney and whether grave dancing was appropriate.

In his case, yeah, I believe so. You disagree. I have no problem to you having that view. You won't stop me from being glad when the world is free of that vile coward.

Have a lovely day tomorrow. I mean that. The sun will rise, birds will sing. Many people will die soon. Many will be mourned. I will save my good will for the parents who mourn lost sons and daughters from wars which should never have been started....by Dick Cheney.

[akbacchus_BC]

125. I am not defending Cheney, he is scum! But you know that Powell

went before the UN Security Council and convinced them that Iraq had WPD, no wonder his ass is keeping quiet, his conscience must be biting his ass all this time, he knew that it was not true and look at how that invasion turned out. Thousands of American soldiers got killed and millions of Iraquis were assasinated. Powell must be proud of himself and Condi gone into hiding!

You too have a lovely day but the facts are there!

Powell is scum!

[havocmom]

140. No dispute that Powell FOLLOWED orders, for a while, given by Cheney

What intrigues me is why you keep bringing him up in your thread about reaction to cheney's impending demise. And why only with me.

Can't dispute what I said re cheney, so we toss in Powell? :rofl:

[conscious evolution]

181. I plan on dancing and pissing on his grave,too.

[The Wizard]

188. Prepare to stand in a long line (NT)

[Martin Eden]

226. I'm gonna drop trou ...

... and let loose some explosive squirts after eating the most disgusting food I can stomach.

[KansDem]

154. Agreed...

Cheney is responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Iraqis and some 5,000 Americans.

Add families and friends of those killed by Cheney and there are millions of people on this planet who are sad and hurting because of this man.

Dance on his grave? You bet! And I'll even buy a dance card or two.

Shall I pencil you in, havocmom?

[datasuspect]

229. HEAVENS TO BETSY!!!!111

Oh dear!

[Lilith Velkor]

115. Is he dead yet?Is he dead yet?Is he dead yet?

[akbacchus_BC]

122. No, he got a pass from the current administration!

[Pool Hall Ace]

146. Yes another deferment..

It seems Mr. Cheney doesn't just receive draft deferments, but death deferments, too.

[JoeyT]

116. How terrible of you sir.

Why my monocle nearly fell from my face at the harshness of your tone. Allow me to clutch my pearls and fetch my fainting couch, that I may pretend I'm a more evolved human being than you. Why, it's downright undignified to speak ill of the dead. Tradition declares it thus, and as we all know tradition is never wrong about anything. Especially when we never question it.

You know what would be a fitting end for him? Being interred against his will in an unnamed sewage pond. So every time anyone in the country flushes they think they've made a contribution to his "legacy".

[havocmom]

203. BEST idea ever!

[smalll]

120. I'm Sorry You Shot Me In The Face!

Then had to get minions to keep the police at bay overnight, so you could sleep off your BAC down to legal levels!

:toast:

[akbacchus_BC]

123. The minute the Dems got into power, they should have filed war crimes

against Bush, Cheney and Karl Rove. Don't you all remember that Pelosi said that is not their priority! Those three shits should be in jail, if they were, the teabaggers would not have formed. Just my opinion!

[Turborama]

127. It's quite bizarre, as I was reading this I could hear a pig's death squeal from my neighbor's house

He's slaughtering it in preparation for a feast they're having this evening. Made me think 'That's kind of noises I hope Darth will make as he draws his final breaths'.

[BigBearJohn]

128. It amazes me how little sympathy (if any) I would have over his death.

Don't even care to try and explain or analyze it.
I have no sympathy for him or his daughter Liz. NONE.

All my sympathy has been spent on all the innocent people who have
suffered under the evil man's reign.


I'll be dancing and singing a male version of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHJoj9IqeKg&feature=related

[Erose999]

132. I want to play Amazing Grace at his funeral... on a vuvuzela.

[no limit]

139. So you support the death penalty? Amirite?

[mike_c]

145. absolutely not....

Frankly, I don't see anything inconsistent there, either. If Cheney were charged, given a fair trial, and convicted, I would absolutely oppose the death penalty, regardless of his crimes. Spending the rest of his life imprisoned would be suitable punishment. Nonetheless, I would still celebrate when he croaked his last breath.

[Martin Eden]

141. I will be saddened by Dick Cheney's death ...

... because he didn't die in prison, where he belongs.

[BrklynLiberal]

142. The man behaved like evil incarnate, and I hope he gets the end he so richly deserves.

I actually hope he just disappears...never to be seen or heard from again...no fuss, no muss, no martyrdom, no maudlin memorials... totally forgotten in the ignominy he deserves.

[femrap]

143. I believe that the longer he

lives, the more he suffers. And now he has this weird machine stuck in his chest. Think of the cost that all of his surgeries and medicines. Gee, if he had been a member of The Former Middle Class, he'd be dead by now....no longer suffering.

Live and suffer. It must be difficult for him to breath. Karma. I wonder if he ever thinks of all the people he is responsible for killing and maiming. Does he think about all the widows/widowers and orphans he has created?

I think he is a true sadistic monster that enjoys, and maybe even sexually enjoys, destroying innocent people's lives.

It's as if he is not a member of the human species. He is a non-species. An evil non-species. Maybe there is something to that 'reptilian' thing after all.

Let him suffer like those that suffered at his command.

[OmahaBlueDog]

148. You do realize that he'll receive a transplant and live for another 30 years, don't you?

Given that he has a ton of money and he was VP and all?

BTW, most of the FR/Teabagger crowd are praying (literally) for the death of the President, so I'd have no real issue with grave dancing vis a vis Mr. Cheney.

[Erose999]

160. I am thinking he will go out of the country and get a transplant

somewhere like China or Mexico where he can just buy an organ. Of course it will be hush-hush.

Actually, his problems now may be from a previous transplant. I mean he's been at death's door several times in the past only to return to health in short order. How do we know he's not on his 3rd of 4th black market heart already?

[Individualist]

191. Nope. His vascular system is shot all to hell with all the problems he's had.

Karma will get him, money or not.

[LiberalLovinLug]

150. We should dance NOW, while he can see and hear us

I'd rather we dance in the street for his inevitable demise now. So he can see on the news channels the crowds of people blowing vuvuzelas (ie Erose999's post) in anticipation. After his black dirty heart shrivels and dies we can leave his family in peace to mourn.

[stubtoe]

155. Rumors of his passing are premature -

the guy has more lives than a cat.

[backscatter712]

171. He might stick around a while longer...

though the fact he had to get that LVAD implanted is not a good sign for him.

[awoke_in_2003]

156. +1 Billion. nt

[backscatter712]

158. The freeptards were gleeful when Ted Kennedy got cancer. Karma's a bitch.

I don't care how much they wail, I've got my tap-dancing shoes on!

[dlfuller]

159. the only reason to believe in Hell

That He will be there

[DirtyDawg]

166. 'Dance' my ass...

...I've promised myself for years that I'll 'piss' on the sonofabitch's grave, even if I have to have someone pour a vile of my U-rine on it - I ain't no spring chicken myself, but I'm a damn-sight better off than this prick and expect to do it myself if it ain't too hard to get there. So my advice to the Cheeny family, better have him planted some place with gates and guards cause it'll be hell keeping grass growin' on that plot if the public has access to it. Of course it won't be Arlington cause, to my knowledge, they don't allow draft dodgers in there.

By the way, how's that Government-administered healthcare working for ya? Seems to me that there are millions that can't get one of those 'after-market' pumps with their coverage, or lack of it. And furthermore, where the hell is one of those 'Death Panels' when you actually need one? I mean, if ever there was a person that didn't deserve to live even one more nanosecond it's this vile excuse for a human being.

[mike_c]

168. how much you wanna bet they bury his ass at Arlington anyway...?

After all, he has "served his country" so long and faithfully. They'll probably plant Rumsfeld right beside him.

I don't believe I was able to type that without becoming ill....

[Deep13]

167. They will be no reason to cheer. The damage has been done already.

When Cheney dies it will not fix anything. Besides, he's not dead yet. He may get a transplant or even hang on for a few years with that gadget he has.

[slay]

170. If I were to get arrested one day

I would want it to be for pissing on Cheney's grave. I'd have the paperwork framed and mounted over my fireplace! :evilgrin:

[on point]

175. He should be kept alive until he is hung

I only want him to stay alive long enough so he can be water boarded until he tells us the truth about the Iraq wart crimes

and

then so he knows what is going on when he is hung for those war crimes.

[Bette Noir]

176. I won't dance on his grave, but I'll be glad he's in it.

Maybe he should be buried with a stake through his heart. Just to be sure.

[Catherina]

177. No decorum here. That evil man needs to hurry up and go

I hope he's beginning to get very scared about possible retribution in the next world.

[Roland99]

178. I'd rather not see him dead yet. I'd MUCH rather see him before the World Court in The Hague!!!!

Make that fucker suffer before his "heart" finally gives out.

[Capitalocracy]

180. Yeah, I don't want him to go like Pinochet.

Fat, happy, and free, having totally gotten away with it. That sends the wrong message to future evil dictators.

[sui generis]

179. I will be riverdancing up one side and down the other

There is no excuse for Dick Cheney - not upbringing or background or being a product of his time. He is an opportunist, a good ol' boy, somebody who deeply believes that he is a kind of human who smugly believes he is superior to poor trash and non-Americans, and willing to trade principle for profit in every single business decision, without exception.

Hell I'll dance on his damn coffin while he's picking it out.

[liberation]

182. "even the most heinous criminals deserve respect at the end of their lives." No, they do not.

I agree with your post, but the fact is that respect is earned, not granted. And it will be a cold day in hell if I have to subsume that basic life maxim in order to please the expectations of faux class that the right has shoveled down our throats to limit the effectivity of the left.

[sce56]

183. Someone posted on an earlier thread for Dick to "Go into the light"

I say it is not the light that he'll see! Just the shadows!

[drmeow]

184. My reaction will be

"YES!!!!" <fist pump> :bounce: :woohoo: "May he rot in hell for all eternity."

I will then go on with my life - although I may have an extra drink that weekend to celebrate.

[Butch350]

186. Hey I applaud you - you've lowered yourself to his level...

now why not join a tea party.

[obxhead]

187. And wide awake. I want him to see it coming.

I hope it hurts, and that he dies alone, afraid, and wide awake to watch it coming.

[Lucian]

194. The world will become a better place.

Who cares about decorum and dignity when the biggest piece of shit on the face of this Earth finally does die?

I'll be celebrating with you. :toast:

[orbitalman]

206. And so will I....

:toast:

[Cherchez la Femme]

200. de mortuis nil nisi bonum

Wait, you need to have a soul & a conscience to deserve that level of postmortem consideration, don't you?
Animals have that, Cheney doesn't

soo, fuggim...........

[valerief]

201. This I don't understand.

even the most heinous criminals deserve respect at the end of their lives.

What's the reasoning behind this?

[N_E_1 for Tennis]

202. For his family, I will mourn...

after all he is a father and a husband. As much as we here hate the man, some did love him.
For those and those alone, I will feel sorry.

Personally, I will dance, I will drink, I will celebrate.

I will read the "front page", and most likely laugh and feel relief with his passing.

Tho that laughter will soon turn to tears, knowing that his, neigh our, justice was never received here on earth.

[texanwitch]

205. He should be put on a rubber raft in the Gulf of Mexico, in the smelly oil.

Let him have some form of life support to keep him alive for a few days.

That would be justice.

[mkultra]

212. when he dies, you will hear a loud bang from my house and people will duck

because, hey, who wants to get hit by that champagne cork huh?

[patrice]

213. Some suffering could give him an opportunity to know what it's like to be one of the little people.

To be someone like my MIL or one of my husbands, for whom we could afford to buy no "extra" time together.

[secondwind]

217. I DON'T WANT HIM TO DIE UNTIL 2011!!!! I WANT HIS ESTATE TO BE TAXED!!!

[Frisbee]

220. Sorry, but I can't wish for Cheney's death....

I hope he lives another 20 years. And I hope every breathe he takes is a struggle and feels like he is drowning and makes him think of those he had water-boarded. No, I don't want Dick Cheney to die, I want him to live a long unbearably miserable and painful life, because that is the closest he will ever come to paying for the death and destruction he willingly caused and that his life stood for. He may not have been Hitler or Stalin, but had he been born in another time and place, he had the moral compass and character to have been at their level. The man is truly evil.

[Cheap_Trick]

221. I will NOT dance on Cheney's grave.

I will piss on it.

I will take the most massive dump I can muster on it.

But I will not dance on it.

[pleah]

222. K&R!!!!!!!!!!

[alarimer]

227. Why say nice things about people after they are dead?

If we really thought they were decent, why wouldn't we say so before they died?

And of course, if they are not decent we should say so both before and after.

I don't believe in making nice just for the sake of someone who may be reading. If you hated someone why not say so, even if they are dead. Being dead does not give them a free pass in my book.

[niyad]

230. . . .