If I ever have to go to jail, I want it to be in California. (Lohan)

[panader0]

She had her 90 day sentence reduced to 14 days due to "overcrowding". Abd the picture of her cell on KO's program doesn't look anything like the cell I was in. What a F'ing joke. Oh yeah, that's the state that let OJ off.

[davidinalameda]

1. the jury let OJ off

not the state

[panader0]

4. Did they import the jurors?

[davidinalameda]

22. where from-China?

:shrug:

[tishaLA]

2. Overcrowding is a serious problem in CA because of a a variety of factors

like the fact that the courts are overburdened and the prisons have to deal with 3 strikes bullshit. Would you prefer we keep people in conditions our courts have rightly criticized as insufficient and sometimes inhumane?

[panader0]

3. No, I would prefer that she serve her sentence. In full.

She is being pampered.

[tishaLA]

8. How, if the prisons are overcrowded, is she going to do that?

Throw out someone else? Build even more prisons?

[Lil Missy]

5. "state that let oj off", and let robert blake off, and let police who beat rodney king off,

and others I can't remember right now.

[Booster]

6. I was in a CA jail in 1971 for a DUI and in the holding cell I was

crying & carrying on. A prostitute sat down beside me & said "Girl. Stop that crying. I been in here 4 times this month and this ain't no big deal". I told her she was right and because I was drunk, from that moment on I had a good time and so did everybody around me. When they finally let me go one of the guards whispered to me "I can't tell you what a pleasure it's been to have you here. We don't get too many people in here who are in a good mood and I want to thank you for the fun time we've had". I have to add that I had driven all the way home and had my key in my front door when the cop in his squad car said "would you come over here for a moment". So close. LOL

[Warren DeMontague]

7. Yeah, I'm sure you're very proud of Sheriff Joe down there.

Look, I had a friend killed by a drunk driver. I think driving under the influence should be taken VERY seriously.

But locking up millions of people for non-violent drug offenses that don't involve endangering others? Insanity.

I'm not sure what should be done with someone like LL. I don't honestly know all the details of the case, except it sounds like rehab is indicated.

[Posteritatis]

14. Refusing to attend rehab was what got her jailed, I believe. (nt)

[nadinbrzezinski]

16. Exactly, they tried the rehab route first

and she failed to attend.

Mind you if she was poor it would have been jail form the git go.

[Warren DeMontague]

21. She should certainly not be treated any differently than anyone else, that's for sure. nt

[provis99]

15. if drunk drivers don't hit anything, why should they be punished?

Are you also in favor of jailing everyone who has a gun, because they might shoot someone?

[nadinbrzezinski]

17. Sooner or later a driver who drives under the

influence... will hit something.

Under the influence is not just alcohol by the way.

And while I believe a FIRST OFFENSE, with NOBODY HURT should be treatment, removal of driver's license and probation... this still NEEDS TO HAPPEN.

If you want to party, by all means... just use a designated driver or take a taxi.

[Posteritatis]

19. Is this an actual attempt to defend DUI? Wow. (nt)

[Warren DeMontague]

20. Yes. Getting on the road under the influence directly, deliberately endangers everyone else.

Take a fucking cab.

And honestly, I can't believe you actually seem to be arguing otherwise. Jesus fucking Christ.

[Hansel]

9. Good. She belongs in treatment not jail, as does everyone else

who endangers themselves and/or society by abusing alcohol and drugs.

Her behavior is sick not criminal and I could care less if she sees a day in jail. This country is too big on punishment and seriously lacks common sense in dealing with addictive behavior. We'll piss 10s of thousands of $ away on incarceration, but not on treatment which would be far more effective and could actually save her life or the lives of others.

I get tired of the corporations and families that exploit children to make millions off of and turn them into maladjusted sick young "adults" in the process. Then they further exploit them by making them into tabloid fodder. If you make millions off of exploiting children then you need to take some responsibility when they get f*ck up over it.

I'm not impress with this nation's obsession with tearing child stars down. I don't give a crap who they are. She's still emotionally a child and needs help. Just like Brittany, the Olson twins, and any other child who is roped into performing and never gets the chance to live a normal life or get pass the age of 10.

[nadinbrzezinski]

13. Which brings me to Mexico

yep, that under developed country where DUI's are a serious concern.

The first offense is treated as follows. (In Baja Norte, or at least used to)

1.- Lose your license for a year, why? Well, we can't trust you with that car, not yet.

2.- A year of MANDATORY treatment. Now I agree, the treatment could do with far better facilities, but hey, whatever. (No, nobody is perfect, and yes those treatment facilities are poorly funded.)

3.- Yep, once a week, you get to go see the Judge to see how the heck you are doing.

Now a second offense makes our way of dealing with drunks look mild. The logic is, we gave you a chance...

And of course that means nobody got hurt or killed though. If somebody got injured or killed, then they do throw the book at the offender, and having treated people from crashes, and declared a few who died... I got no issue with treating manslaughter like oh... manslaughter.

Problem is I think they TRIED this approach with her... you know the treatment route. So, as one drunk who finally got the treatment he needed once told me, at times you need the cold clank of a cell door to wake you up that this is serious shit.

Of course in places like El Salvador a first offense can get you a firing squad... now talk about draconian... (I think that involves somebody getting killed, but you get the picture)

[Bluenorthwest]

10. Lawrence O' Donnell's coverage of this story was excellent

tonight. He said what needs to be said about it. I wish Lindsay the best, I wish her independence. Sorry if that bothers the vultures.

[stevedeshazer]

11. Pelican Bay, perhaps

[nadinbrzezinski]

12. Realize that is solitary

and that our jails are at 200% plus capacity, and they would have released you this early regardless of your social rank.

[Canuckistanian]

18. Free Lohan

I stand in solidarity with Lindsay

Er, so to speak....

[blueamy66]

23. Exactly.

Tent City in AZ was a dirt nightmare compared to what she gets to serve her reduced time in.

jail time and then treatment....serious treatment....free treatment if necessary

Get rid of the stupid drug laws (those involving non-violence and the like) and there might be some extra room at the inn.