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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-10 06:17 AM
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RNC Pushes Back Presidential Primaries
http://politicalwire.com/archives/2010/08/06/rnc_pushes_back_presidential_primaries.html

RNC Pushes Back Presidential Primaries


The RNC "has approved a resolution making dramatic changes to the way the GOP picks a presidential nominee, moving primaries to later dates and requiring states to allocate their delegates on a proportional basis," The Hotline reports.

"The proposal will move the earliest nominating contests -- in IA, NH, SC and NV -- back from early Jan. to Feb. It will also require states that hold nominating contests in March to award delegates based on the proportion of votes candidates win, eliminating the prospect of an early winner-take-all state that would effectively end the nominating process."

Meanwhile, the St. Petersburg Times reports the 2012 Republican National Convention will be held in Tampa.
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TheBigotBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-10 06:34 AM
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1. The machine
does not want Bible Spice to win the early States.

It will also require states that hold nominating contests in March to award delegates based on the proportion of votes candidates win, eliminating the prospect of an early winner-take-all state that would effectively end the nominating process.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-10 06:52 AM
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3. And The Gentleman Gets The Seegar, Folks! You have Nailed It In One, Sir
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-10 06:39 AM
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2. More time, more money. . .
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-10 07:09 AM
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5. Actually, less exposure while they try to get their
pitiful acts together.
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safeinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-10 06:54 AM
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4. Waiting on
the "great white hope".
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-10 07:40 AM
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6. When they've already got the Great White Dope?
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red red red Donating Member (166 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-10 12:44 PM
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17. You made my day...
the Great White Dope :rofl: Thanks (and love the pic)
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-10 08:09 AM
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7. So, they had to go that far south to find a friendly town to Convene in?
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-10 10:49 AM
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12. Florida at the peak of hurricane season?
Whose bright idea was that?

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OmahaBlueDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-10 08:10 AM
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8. Did you also see the change in fundraising rules?
I don't have a link, but in a nutshell, GOP candidates now have to sign a contract stating that they must support the Republican candidate, and that -- if they choose to run as independents -- they must return their prior campaign contributions. Ostensibly, this is to prevent a repeat of Crist in Florida. I suspect it's also to attempt to head off a potential T-bagger breakaway if they are unhappy with the ultimate Presidential nominee.
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-10 10:15 AM
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9. It hadn't occured to me that they view the Nazis and Palin as a threat.
But they both are, now that I think of it. The very last thing the GOP wants or will tolerate is the ability of their followers to guide policy, and judging by her past performance, Sarah Palin is far too histrionic and ignorant to take direction from the Republican Party's true masters.

That means they're going to have to generate a lot of fear in the next two years, to get the lemmings back on the path, and find a double-right-wing authoritarian to lead them to safety. I haven't seen that guy--and it will be a guy--anywhere yet.

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OmahaBlueDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-10 12:05 PM
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15. As evidenced in Florida with Rubio, is that there is such thing as "Too Far Right"
Edited on Sat Aug-07-10 12:06 PM by OmahaBlueDog
Their problem is Mitt Romney. Conventional wisdom is that they'd have had a much better shot at winning if he'd have been the nominee in 2008 instead of McCain. Many party strategists see him as a good bet in 2012. Romney could appeal not only to traditional Republicans, but also to weary, upper middle class independents.

But the baggers say he's not a real conservative, and the fundies don't like that he's LDS. They want Palin, or if not Palin then another fire brather, like Newt or Rick Perry.

Romney's raised a lot of money, and he has a lot of money in his own right. I think nightmare scenario #1 for the GOP is that Romney wins, and infuriated baggers leave and form a third party. That's not an idle threat. In many parts of the country, they could easily raise funds, and I could see several Senators and Congress members who could jump parties to join the new party.

GOP nightmare scenario #2 is that they nominate Palin, Newt, or Perry. The MSM paints the race as "Obama -- way out there on the left (untrue, but that'll be the spin), and Palin -- way out there on the right." That leaves open the possibility that I see - someone like Michael Bloomberg steps in to try to grab the center of the electorate.
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 12:04 AM
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19. That's an interesting take.
I remember back in the run-up to the '96 election there was an early point where the money-watchers proclaimed that Phil Gramm had an unassailable lead. But Gramm also had problems with his credentials, being a former (Southern) Democrat... and maybe his brilliant Hawaiian wife didn't go over with the amen corner, either.

Whatever the case, all his money couldn't help him out paleo- Patrick Buchanan in the Louisiana primaries, and that was it for him. He wasn't the only one trying to buy his way into the White House that year.

It seems like the compromise between your nightmares #1 and #2 in 1996 was Bob Dole. But that also left open the door for Ross Perot, who sealed the deal for President Clinton.

Maybe 2012 will be the year for a third party candidate. I'd be willing to bet Sarah Palin could be drawn away pretty easily if she doesn't get a smoochie from the GOP.
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Born_A_Truman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 12:52 AM
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20. Mama Grizzly party?
Edited on Mon Aug-09-10 12:52 AM by Born_A_Truman
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-10 10:30 AM
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10. This is a way for their candidate to avoid scrutiny
By pushing back the primaries, there'll be less time for anyone to look into the candidate's past, etc., as well as nailing him/her down on specific issues. The religious right perfected the art of "stealth" candidates...and it seems the GOP at large has adopted that strategy as well.
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SnakeEyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-10 11:29 AM
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13. Pushing back increases the time
the candidates will still be announcing intentions way too early as we've seen from both parties in recent elections. So this gives even more time for scrutiny before the first primaries.
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Froward69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-10 10:32 AM
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11. Obviously trying to shorten the time
to vet out candidates...

Imagine if Sara Palin gave her Speech at the RNC then Voting happened that next week? With a shorter time for the truth to come out on republicans the better chance they have to instill puppets... Like Sarah palin.

BTW Sat morning trolls are abound today. unreccing???
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SnakeEyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-10 11:31 AM
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14. there is an additional month now
to vet candidates before the primaries begin. And proportional delegates means its going to take longer for a candidate to gain the delegates needed to win nomination so it prolongs the process and allows more time.
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Froward69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-10 04:51 PM
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18. um how is an additional month there when
elections come in November and instead of January... (10 months) it is February (9months) not to mention the time between the GOP convention and election day is shortened by three weeks.

longer time eh??
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-10 12:40 PM
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16. Saruh is looking forward to the vetting -

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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 12:54 AM
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21. The RNC is afraid of Palin winning the nomination.
Edited on Mon Aug-09-10 12:54 AM by MilesColtrane
because they know she would lose the general election handily
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