A wrong Dean is still 99% better than a Right Democrat.

[Stoic]

And maybe one day he'll acknowledge his mistake.

[dkf]

1. He recognizes the value of sparing the grieving more pain.

Something you all dont get. I'm sure that as a doctor he had to deal with death and bereavement. First do no harm. That is something this Imam could learn from.

[Bandit]

2. Many people are grieving that a black man is President

I suppose we should try and spare them their pain as well...How is it possible that religion brings these people pain? Religion did not bring down those buildings it was politics..

[dkf]

3. You think grieving over a political loss is the same as grieving over a spouse

Or a parent or sibling? Well hell no wonder you don't give a shit.

[Bandit]

21. What I think is a racist bigot is the same as a religious bigot

Grief does not excuse bigotry...Religion had absolutely nothing to do with 9-11. Just because the people that did it happened to be religious does not mean they did it because of their religion. If that were the case they would have bombed Christian Churches and not the World Trade Center. It was an act of Political terror, not religious terror

[Stinky The Clown]

9. Shame on you for saying that

Poooooooor President Obama.

Poor poor POOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR President Obama.

Leave President Obama Alone. He's a good man.

You don't deserve President Obama.






Gimme a fucking break.

:eyes:

[LAGC]

22. "Religion did not bring down those buildings."

Really? I suppose the fact that the hijackers thought they were destined to a glorious after-life with 77 virgins had nothing to do with it?

[Stoic]

4. What about the grieving of the families of the Muslim victims of 9/11?

They died in the WTC collapse, too.

[wellst0nev0ter]

16. SHH! You'll Ratf**k The Propoganda! (n/t)

[dionysus]

14. what BS.

[RBInMaine]

15. I hear you, but emotional reactions must not EVER trump other moral, ethical, and LEGAL principles.

[DevonRex]

17. You need to learn a bit from all the other Dems who support the constitution

and the rights of American citizens.

[dkf]

20. Next thing you know you will all be asking to overturn all gun laws

Yeah that will be the day.

[bvar22]

23. Sparing the grieving more pain?

What about the 98 American Muslims that were killed in the WTC on 9-11?
Does the "First do no harm" quote apply to them and their families?

[ecstatic]

5. Is this sarcasm?

I don't get it.

[Stoic]

6. As in right-wing Democrat or a conservative one.

Yeah, it fails when you have to explain it.

[meegbear]

7. So because I support the building the cultural center, he's a better person than me?

How Palin of you.

[demmiblue]

12. No. It means Dean is wrong, but he is better than a Nelson. n/t

[nevergiveup]

8. Howard meant well but he dug a hole with his wording.

I still like the guy. No one is perfect.

[RBInMaine]

13. Good to have a constructive dialogue, but you don't CAVE on a principle like this EVER !

[nevergiveup]

19. I am not sure it was a "cave",

but then again I am trying to give Dean the benefit of the doubt. I do realize my interpretation/position is likely a stretch and agree with you that the principle must always stand alone above everything.

[peace13]

10. Dean would have to admit that he took this position for publicity alone.

The Dems are turning away from his 50 state plan. I firmly believe that Dean took his 'mosque' position for publicity. His stint on Olberman last night was pitiful. Keith was too kind to the man. Dr. Dean will do anything to keep his mug in the 'news' these days. Too bad because I do believe that he helped organize the Dems at one time. Unfortunately once we got a Dem in the big house they forget how they got there. I feel his pain.

[RBInMaine]

11. A great "progressive hero" not standing on principle and conviction? It STINKS !

[DevonRex]

18. This is a basic constitutional principle that he flubbed. One that's actually written in it.

One that isn't open to any sort of interpretation. In other words, it's a biggie.

I understand what you're saying. I've always been a Deaniac, mostly because I respected that he says what he thinks. It's just hard to fathom him thinking this.

For one thing, there IS no compromise. That's the land they own. That's the land they have permits for. What, are they just gonna swap it out for something 2 blocks further away? Which property might that be? And why wouldn't somebody object to THAT property once they've gotten this group to "compromise" once?

It's a done deal. The property has been purchased, the permits issued, the plans are in place. The time for "compromise" is long gone. Logic and common sense should have told him that. His words only caused more hurt and undermined what Democrats stand for.

[bvar22]

24. Dr Dean just being a good Party Soldier.

Can you imagine if it was 1963?
"Vivian Jones has the RIGHT to attend the University of Alabama.
However, she should NEVER do so because that would offend the "sensibilities" of all the racists in Alabama."



THIS is WHAT the Democratic Party used to STAND for:


I am finding that I have less and less use for today's "New Democrat" Party.