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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 08:28 AM
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New Republic Editor: Muslims Are Indifferent to Human Life and Therefore Unworthy of First Amendment
Peretz: Muslims Are Indifferent to Human Life and Therefore Unworthy of First Amendment Protection



New Republic Editor in Chief Martin Peretz:

But, frankly, Muslim life is cheap, most notably to Muslims. And among those Muslims led by the Imam Rauf there is hardly one who has raised a fuss about the routine and random bloodshed that defines their brotherhood. So, yes, I wonder whether I need honor these people and pretend that they are worthy of the privileges of the First Amendment which I have in my gut the sense that they will abuse.

http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/2010/09/peretz-muslims-are-indifferent-to-human-life-and-therefore-unworthy-of-first-amendment-protection/
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 08:30 AM
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1. Depersonalization and devaluing the lives of the "enemy"
is the first step to annihilating them. I wonder how many of these types would be in favor of concentration camps and mass executions.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 08:37 AM
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8. Characteristic #3
3.) Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause: The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial, ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.
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wondersz1 Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 09:05 AM
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17. One more abuse???
I'd say that such commentators are well below the the set of people the first amendment was intended for. Arab states have high social security and stringent laws (which is in certain cases positive). Please, do at least a minimal research before posting and leave Arabs alone. I thought such intolerance would be filtered as soon as it's out.
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 12:31 PM
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30. What are you talking about?
I was pointing out how wrong and dangerous such intolerance is.

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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 08:31 AM
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2. Huh, I feel the same way about New Republic Editor in Chief Martin Peretz ...
go figure.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 08:32 AM
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3. This is damn near a call for genocide
So, yes, I wonder whether I need honor these people and pretend that they are worthy of the privileges of the First Amendment which I have in my gut the sense that they will abuse.

Seriously, just turn them into non-citizens? He's the one abusing the First Amendment, not them.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 08:33 AM
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4. Marty Peretz is a certified Islamophobic whackjob.
nt
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 08:40 AM
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11. He is a racist scumbag.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 08:33 AM
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5. Muslim life is cheap to many other Americans, too; should they likewise be denied the 1st amentment?
Its Bugs Bunny Nips the Nips all over again.
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MattBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 08:36 AM
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6. Dehumanize the enemy.
Coming from a Jew no less. One might think he would refrain from such nonsense.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 08:36 AM
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7. That must be why they don't care about killing a million Iraqis.
Of course, they don't seem to care about the 4,500 dead Americans, either.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 08:38 AM
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9. twisted logic of the american dream and american reality
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 08:39 AM
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10. Don't know much about real Muslims do they
One of the things about the Muslim religion is they don't believe in taking a human life. Some go as far as not even in self defense. Now like all people there are some that kill, but the majority believe in peace just like we do. So I suppose like every thing else if you are a right wing commentator you can make crap up as you go along and expect people to believe it. Look at the campaign they have waged against Obama since he had the audacity to legally win an election. I mean he didn't have to steal it like Bush did.
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 08:43 AM
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12. I am recc'ing this because people need to KNOW.
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agentS Donating Member (922 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 08:44 AM
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13. Moron in Chief Martin Peretz makes me wanna puke
Routine and random bloodshed? Where were you when Bush & Co. were blowing up wedding parties in Iraq and Afghanistan?
This is the sort of crap that only emboldens the terrorists- they can point to it and use it for recruitment purposes.

Whatever happened to "support the troops"? Here's an idea- how about "don't aid the enemy"?
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 08:45 AM
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14. That must be why there are so many fine Muslim physicians.
It also explains why the great Avicenna did so much to advance medicine around the year 1000, when European Christianity was sunk in barbarism.

I would nominate Peretz as indifferent to (Muslim) life and unworthy of First Amendment protection, as proved by his abuse of that right in expressing his intolerance of about 1 billion people.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 08:49 AM
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15. Marty Peretz has long been a horrible person, and he is the one who raised Andrew Sullivan,
Edited on Tue Sep-07-10 08:50 AM by QC
favorite DU oracle, from mere boytoy GAP model to opinion leader.

That is, perhaps, his worst offense of all.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 08:52 AM
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16. 5/31/10 Dkos: "Prepare for pro-Likud, anti-Arab propaganda"
...

Over the next few days, we will see an extraordinary degree of poorly-composed propaganda by a number of U.S. pundits in support of what looks at this point to be a rather indefensible act. The worst of this nonsense will come from such dishonest single-issue pundits as The New Republic publisher Martin Peretz who, like Muhammed, was able to obtain for himself a degree of influence only by virtue of having married a rich woman and who, also like Muhammed, cannot write. It is always worth noting that Peretz was among the handful of Western observers to have claimed that Ahmadinejad's "reelection" was a genuine manifestation of overall Iranian sentiment rather than outright fraud, and that Peretz joined China and Russia in this overt assessment in an effort to convince himself and others that the majority of Iranians support that degenerate fellow's own fascist and anti-Semitic views, as of course Peretz and others who were perpetually wrong about Iraq would like another chance to be wrong.


....

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/5/31/871552/-Prepare-for-pro-Likud,-anti-Arab-propaganda
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 09:05 AM
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18. Martin Peretz is a racist @#$%. n/t
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 09:09 AM
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19. What's next? Making them all wear yellow crescents on their sleeves?
Edited on Tue Sep-07-10 09:16 AM by ck4829
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 09:15 AM
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21. "The Final Solution to the Muslim Problem"...
:puke:

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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 09:14 AM
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20. Martin Peretz personally destroyed The New Republic...
...turning it from the foremost progressive magazine in America to a competitor with Commentary in the "urbane Likud supporter" demographic.

Seriously, anyone remember when TNR endorsed Reagan for president? Or served as a personal cheerleader for his support of the Nicaraguan contras and the Salvadorean crackdown on dissent (including the murder of Maryknoll nuns)? Or made a point about how TNR was now a magazine that "criticized equally the left and the right?" The man is a neocon through and through. No wonder Alexander Cockburn used to headline his quotes as "more swill from Marty."

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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 09:26 AM
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22. Even if it were true, it would be irrelevant
The Bill of Rights applies to everyone, regardless of their own opinions and attitudes.
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surrealAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 09:46 AM
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25. Exactly.
That's why it's called the "Bill of Rights", and not the "bill of privileges for people who belong to groups we support".
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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 09:29 AM
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23. Sounds like an attempt to tie anyone not "pro-life" with the EVIL muslims.......
Edited on Tue Sep-07-10 09:29 AM by cleanhippie
Seems like part of the set-up to a bigger issue.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 09:32 AM
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24. The New Republic used to be liberal - I guess it isn't any more....nt
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 11:03 AM
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28. No shit, Sherlock.
Edited on Tue Sep-07-10 11:04 AM by McCamy Taylor
Isn't the New Republic a NeoCon rag now?
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 10:45 AM
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26. can ANYONE every again deny that Marty Peretz is anything but a hate-filled loon?
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 11:02 AM
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27. They said the same thing about the Vietnamese when we were killing them
for their oil back in 1970.

And the Nazis said the same things about Jewish people when they were killing them and stealing their possessions.

It is always easier to commit theft and murder if you demonize the victim.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-10 11:30 AM
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29. Have the editors of the New Republic
calculated the number of lives slaughtered by the American Government and its agents deom WW2 to today? Adios first amendment rights.
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