Nat'l Weather Service: Two Tornadoes Swept Through NY City

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Source: NY 1 News

Weather officials confirmed tonight that two tornadoes touched down in New York City last night, as residents citywide continue to clean up damage and local lawmakers build their case for FEMA funding.

The National Weather Service said that the first tornado touched down in Park Slope, Brooklyn with winds of 80 mph and traveled two miles northeast.

The second tornado touched down about two-and-a-half miles south of Flushing, Queens and traveled north to Bayside with winds of up to 100 mph, before lifting over the waters. It hit Middle Village and Forest Hills, Queens the hardest.

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Congressman Anthony Weiner said officials are still calculating the damage to determine if the area qualifies for FEMA assistance and low-interest loans to small businesses damaged in the storm.

Read more: http://www.ny1.com/content/top_stories/125611/nat-l-weather-service--two-tornadoes-swept-through-city

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1. Global warming.

[defendandprotect]

3. Exactly .....

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5. now elaborete.

cuz I'm drunk.

[defendandprotect]

8. Maybe the right wing deniers aren't drinking enough?

Yep -- tropical storms are coming further north --

Gloal Warming will bring increasingly chaotic weather --

You did OK for a drunk!

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17. Yep and you acalled them out.

and I'm completely drunk.:toast:

[iamjoy]

13. Maybe Not

Ever heard of the Long Island Express? No, it's not a train it was a Cat 3 hurricane that hit the area in New England in 1938. There have been hurricanes recorded as far back as the 17th century (Ok Pat Robertson, what did the Puritans do to piss off God so much?) So the area does have a history of cyclonic activity, although it is not as common there as in many other parts of our country.

Anyway, I believe human activity is contributing to climate change, but tornadoes in NY are not the QED.

[Renew Deal]

16. Huh?

Tornados and Hurricanes are not nearly the same thing. Hurricanes and hurricane scares are somewhat common. Tornados are VERY uncommon.

[iamjoy]

28. I Live in Florida

So I am well aware that hurricanes and tornadoes are not the same thing (although the former often spawns the latter). ;)

I guess I was clumsily lumping together violent weather that is often used as "proof" of global climate change and I believe these severe weather events have in fact been happening for years and only get more press now because increased population means such events are more likely to hit an area where there's lots of people to experience it. Also, as we improve our ability to identify and track storm cells, we're more likely to know about them.

And there is a history of tornadoes in New York also. It's not as common as in the "Tornado Alley" but it happens.

I look to year over year averages of temperature increases, record highs (or lows), dramatic changes in precipitation, etc as evidence of global warming - not freak storms.

[defendandprotect]

31. And .... you seem to be saying you're a Global Warming denier ...????

[iamjoy]

33. Absolutely Not

I believe humans are contributing to climate change, but I don't look at every strange weather event and attribute it to global warming.

There's a difference between weather and climate. I would not seriously consider a 100 degree day in itself as proof of from global climate change - as miserable as that is. Rather, I consider the number of record highs being recorded across the world and these do seem to be increasing. Evidence such as glacial retreat, the newly emerging northwest passage, ocean acidification, etc. are more indicative, if not as immediately compelling.

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34. "Climate Change" is a right wing euphemism for Global Warming .... btw ....

urged on W Bush by GOP propagandist Frank Luntz in 2002 --

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30. Frank Luntz, GOP propagandist, urged W in '02 to change GW to "climate change" ....

Global Warming makes clear that what we are talking about is human activity

HEATING up the atmosphere. When that happens, you get chaotic weather.

We do have tropical storms coming further north ---

We have changed weather patterns, wind systems -- look at the increasing fires

so many areas are suffering.

Two tornadoes hitting Staten Island isn't part of any normal weather pattern.

We've known about Global Warming since the mid 1950's and probably before that --

scientists understood immediately after the "Industrial Revolution" that nature

was being adversely effected. No one can say how all of this may compound --

especially considering the immense pollution of the planet.


As the Pentagon advised W ... "Global Warming will bring increasing numbers of

hurricane, cyclones, tornadoes, and earthquakes -- and increasing intensity."

[Renew Deal]

14. The "first tornado to hit Brooklyn in 100 years" hit Brooklyn a couple years ago.

And it only took 2 years to happen again. We have had some wild weather in the NY area over the last couple of years. Great Neck which is only a few miles east of Bayside got hit with a montster thunderstorm a couple months ago. Then there was that monster "nor'easter" in March which left more destruction than any storm since Hurricane Gloria. There's been more tornado warnings in the last year than I remember in my lifetime around here. Tornados are/were extremely rare east of New Jersey. Apparently not anymore.

[rucognizant]

23. I moved to Maine from N J 19 years ago.................

1990, we had 2 tornados come through the area ( due east from Philly) which were DENIED by the media & authorities.......... "tropical storm " they said!
Well, if you can believe your"lying eyes", trees were TWISTED OFF 1/2 UP THE TRUNK & tossed to the ground..............that is strong circular motion of winds nothing else!

[Po_d Mainiac]

2. In best Maxwell Smart voice

Missed Lower Manhattan by that much

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6. Chief

[TheWatcher]

22. "McCloud!!!!!"

[benld74]

4. NOPE, No weather changes going on in this world, NOOppe! NuhHuh. NO

[sulphurdunn]

7. "it's what acts of God do to us"

Really? Couldn't have anything to do with global warming that precipitates climate change could it? You'd never know from reading this article. In fact it's beginning to appear as though there's a corporate media blackout of that topic here in the land of the free. Whod'a thunk it? :shrug:

[Drale]

9. accually im suprised

this doesnt happen more often, espically here in Chicago. I here stories of people who live where I live (about 30 mins south of Chicago) from back in the day, that there used to be tornados all the time. Ive lived here for 16 years, and the sirens have only gone off like 4 times, and there has only been one minor touch down.

[Bobbieo]

10. Is there any other nation in the world that is plagued by tornados

as we are?

[iamjoy]

11. God Is Unhappy About Our Gays

Or more accurately, the way this country denies people the full equal rights just because they happen to love some one of the same gender.

I mean, they don't have such a problem with tornadoes in Europe (where their policies towards gays is much more sensible), right?

[Bobbieo]

15. I've never heard of a tornado in Europe, Russia, the Middle East

or India. Typhoons in Japan.

[Igel]

21. Neither had I.

Good question.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_European_tornadoes_and_tornado_outbreaks

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1904_Moscow_tornado

Now I wonder if any made it into historical fiction.

[smokey nj]

29. There was a tornado in London when Mr. smokey and I were there in

Dec. 2006.

[sakabatou]

12. Oh wow...

[lynne]

18. Looks like those will be tornado #6 & #7 for NYC since 1974 -

They rest were F0 and F1, not sure if they've rated these last two yet. The entire state of NY has had 363 tornado's since they began recording them in 1950. Statistically, some are bound to hit NYC. Check out the Tornado History Project. It's fascinating.

[jumptheshadow]

24. These tornadoes were F0 and F1...

but it was a separate microburst that caused the most damage. We were in the touchdown area of the F0 tornado. It was brutal and I would hate to see what the stronger tornadoes look like.

[CoffeeCat]

19. Was Pierce Brosnin there...

...and was Jeff Goldbloom running after the tornado with a sciency-type device?

Seriously. This sounds like something out of a disaster film.

Have there been tornadoes that have touched down in NYC during the past 50 years?

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20. ninth and tenth tornado since 1950

The fury of wind and rain that pummeled the area was New York City's ninth and tenth tornado since 1950, the National Weather Service said Friday night.

Kyle Struckmann, a meteorologist with the agency, said it was amazing that only one person died.

"It's practically a miracle considering the population that was affected by this," he said.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100918/ap_on_re_us/us_nyc_storm

[jumptheshadow]

25. It was truly amazing there was only one death

It was amazing that most of the trees fell away from buildings and that nobody was killed by the branches, trash cans, window glass and other objects that were carried by the winds. Not to mention that nobody got killed recording the storm from their balconies...

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

26. i saw a lot of coverage of this on NY tv news. My old high school in Queens was damaged enough

to shut it down. :(

[PCIntern]

27. We had a tornado four years ago here on the Main Line of Phlly...

skipped over a few homes, including mine, and then hit houses across the street, pulled up trees, telephone poles, stripped bark cleanly off tree trunks so the wood was actually polished - that was just unbelievable - tore the roof from the house 3 doors down, and utterly destroyed the power grid in my location for days. You could see all the twisted debris...'hot-shots' came thru and said that they were straight-line winds...I said to the guy: "You weren't driving thru it like I was were you?" I had been returning home from the Seashore and got caught and almost killed. "Look at the tops of the trees..." They were all twisted. He just looked at me like I was an idjit. My response to him: "Yeah I know...you're from the Government and you're here to help."

What climate change? :sarcasm:

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32. Term "Climate Change" = GOP propaganda ....

It has been called Global Warming since first discussions of it in the 1950's --

because it makes clear what we are talking about is HEAT.

Evidently, Frank Luntz, GOP propagandist in 2002 advised W to change GW to

"climate change."

Sounds like something normal happening -- doesn't it?