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Kadie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 10:57 AM
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Rutgers Students Call for Gender-Safe, LGBT-Safe Housing - pics

AP PHOTO 24 MINUTES AGO
Rutgers professor Robert O'Brien leads a group in a "lie-in" near the Student Center at Rutgers University, in New Brunswick, N.J. Wednesday, Sept. 29, 2010. The rally was in response to the death of a Rutgers University freshman who jumped off a bridge last week after a recording of him having a sexual encounter with a man was broadcast online.


AP PHOTO 39 MINUTES AGO
A group participates in a "lie-in" near the Student Center at Rutgers University, in New Brunswick, N.J. The rally was in support of safe places for gay students, in response to the death of a Rutgers University freshman who jumped off a bridge last week after a recording of him having a sexual encounter with a man was broadcast online.


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more pics found at...

Photo Gallery: Rutgers Students Call for Gender-Safe, LGBT-Safe Housing After Ridgewood Teen's Suicide
Students protest in honor of Ridgewood's Tyler Clementi
11:08am

http://ridgewood.patch.com/articles/photo-gallery-rutgers-students-call-for-gender-safe-lgbt-safe-housing-after-ridgewood-teens-suicide#photo-2009222


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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 11:08 AM
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1. I cannot even begin to comprehend wtf was going thru the minds.
if they have one between them...of the students who did that to that poor kid.

I hope they both go to jail...it was a hate crime.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 11:15 AM
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2. forbid computers with cameras
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 11:16 AM
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3. This is a great idea, but wouldn't it be a "lay-in" rather than a "lie-in"?
Why would they want to associate their demonstration with lies?
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 11:17 AM
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4. Because they're lying down. A "lay in" would either be a bunch of public sex, or people laying
blankets or other things on the ground.
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 12:24 PM
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10. Lying in that term would mean "doing little or nothing"
Which I suppose could be accurate, but if they are referring to placing themselves in a prone or reclining position, as they seem to be, it would be "laying".
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 03:32 PM
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20. They are lying on the ground. It's a lie-in. Placing yourself in a prone position is to lie down.
"I'm going to go lay down" is incorrect when referring to getting into bed.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 11:19 AM
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5. Grammatically it's a lie in, as in sit in.
Edited on Thu Sep-30-10 11:19 AM by BurtWorm
They're lying in, not being lain in or laying something/one in.

:insert smiley wearing grammar police uniform:
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 12:25 PM
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11. Lying in that instance would mean "doing little or nothing".
Such as "Lying down on the job". If they mean to refer to their position, they'd mean "laying" as in they are laying on the ground.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 12:30 PM
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12. No. You lay something down. But you lie down.
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 12:38 PM
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14. I can't find a definition of the word that fits that usage.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Lie

The first definition seems to be the most fitting and is used in this context:
To be or place oneself at rest in a flat, horizontal, or recumbent position; recline: He lay under a tree to sleep.

There are definitions that would also be somewhat applicable to this situation, but if you are referring to the position that they are in, it would be lay.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 12:44 PM
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15. 'He lay under a tree' means 'He did lie under a tree.'
You lie down. You lay something down. Trust me. I'm an editor.
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 12:47 PM
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18. I'll take your word for it.
It certainly wouldn't be the first aspect of the English language to be completely nonsensical. It would seem to me to be a completely unnecessary homonym.
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 12:54 PM
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19. I'll take your word for it.
It certainly wouldn't be the first aspect of the English language to be completely nonsensical. It would seem to me to be a completely unnecessary homonym.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 11:19 AM
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6. The student killing himself over this non issue, non crime breaks my heart
But the response of these students to his suicide is very loving. I hope they find whoever it is that filmed the encounter and ostracize him/them.
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 11:49 AM
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7. I don't know if "separate but equal' is really the answer
Edited on Thu Sep-30-10 11:50 AM by K8-EEE
I would rather have people live together and respect each other's sexuality and privacy....
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 12:03 PM
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9. In an ideal world that would be great.
I went to Rutgers in the late 60s-early 70s, and I remember living in dorms for 2 years. I couldn't wait to move into an apartment. Even New Brunswick's cockroaches were better roomies than some of the people I had to live among.

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a la izquierda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 12:00 PM
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8. Happy to see the smart kids at my alma mater...
trying to rectify a terrible, terrible tragedy.

Fucking monsters, the other two. I hated my roommate my freshman year, but I sure as hell didn't do anything to betray her (despite her terrible treatment of me-her parents going through my stuff, her buddy stealing my CDs, etc).
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 12:31 PM
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13. Was Tyler in the closet though?
Because if so, he would not have wanted to be in the LGBT dorm. :shrug:
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 04:59 PM
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22. He was Openly Gay, i think he would have wanted any place that didn't have scum who broadcast
what he did live to others and secretly.

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Ohio Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 12:45 PM
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16. K&R - nt
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riderinthestorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 12:47 PM
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17. I love this response. Peaceful, symbolic. Hope it gets wide play in the MSM. nt
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Kadie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 04:49 PM
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21. I didn't find much info than the pics...
Edited on Thu Sep-30-10 04:51 PM by Kadie
here is one story,

Thu Sep 30, 12:31 pm ET
Suicide sparks outrage on Rutgers campus
By Liz Goodwin


snip...
About a hundred students demonstrated Wednesday night on campus chanting, "We're here, we're queer, we're not going home." Gay students told the school newspaper, the Daily Targum, that they want their own space to live in where they can feel safe and free from bullying.
Coincidentally, the college had launched a two-year project Wednesday to encourage civility in New Jersey and on campus.

Robert O'Brien, an anthropology instructor who helped organize Wednesday's protest, told The Upshot that the university needs to hear out lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender students' demand for designated gay-friendly spaces in dorms instead of just talking about civility.

"Students are told that all of Rutgers is safe and why would you need a safe place in your dorm?" O'Brien said. "And they're told they don't understand the way the world works. And then they come to my office and they cry and they scream." O'Brien, who didn't know Clementi, said he knew another gay student who committed suicide last year.

It's unclear whether Clementi was openly gay. Only three of the 50 students who lived on his hall said they knew him when asked by a counselor, according to the New York Times.

more...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_upshot/20100930/us_yblog_upshot/suicide-sparks-outrage-on-rutgers-campus


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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-10 05:03 AM
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23. K&R n/t
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