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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 09:37 PM
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Who is this guy - and why is he trying to push internet voting on the USA?

Friends!

Don’t despair over the DC hacking. Here is a short list of positive news for Internet voting:

Pasadena Star News, Two Sunday editions

“Are you ready for Internet voting? For millions of Americans overseas, it's the only way to ensure their votes are counted”

http://www.pasadenastarnews.com/opinions/ci_16357185

Also, RE: CA Prop 14 (nonpartisan elections) and the future of CA politics

http://www.pasadenastarnews.com/ci_16172903?IADID

Both articles have excellent debates in the comments

Op Ed News

“Does the DC Fiasco Damn Internet Voting?”

http://www.opednews.com/articles/Does-the-DC-Fiasco-Damn-In-by-William-J-Kellehe-101015-957.html


SSRN

“Scary Stories Fail to Stop Internet Voting”


Abstract:
Rather than using the results of scientific testing, and probability calculation, opponents of Internet voting have commonly resorted to telling scary stories about what might happen. In 2004 this tactic had spectacular success. The Department of Defense had already spent over $22,000,000 on an Internet voting project. It was ready to be used in the 2004 November election, but well publicized scary stories had it halted.

Since that time, state election officials, the military, and DoD have regained their reason, and Internet voting is coming back.


At, http://ssrn.com/author=1053589 (free download)


Yours,

Bill

*******************************
William J. Kelleher, Ph.D.
Political Scientist, author, speaker,
CEO for The Internet Voting Research and Education Fund, a CA Nonprofit Foundation

Email: InternetVoting@gmail.com
Blog: http://internetvotingforall.blogspot.com/
Book in progress: All chapter drafts for my new book can be read/downloaded
(for free) at http://ssrn.com/author=1053589


Seriously there must be some background to this guy? What is it?
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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 09:41 PM
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1. I would like internet voting to be as safe adn secure as an ATM...
Once it is that safe and secure, we can use it.
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BradBlog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-10 10:26 PM
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6. "Once it is that safe and secure, we can use it." - Also, when the queen has balls she'll be king
"Once it is that safe and secure, we can use it."

A) The computer scientists who hacked the D.C. Internet Voting say that will be "decades" at earliest: http://www.bradblog.com/?p=8118

B) How will you or I ever KNOW that it is? If the citizenry can't verify that votes are cast and recorded accurately, we can't use the system.

C) If I have to *trust* in a computer scientist or election official to *tell* me that it's "safe and secure", that doesn't work either (that is, for example, the same failed system we have right now in most of the nation.)


As to Kelleher, I have no specific reasons to distrust his motives. He seems to be sincere, but astoundingly misguided, absolutely disinterested in science and those who have proven his wishful thinking to be wrong time and again, completely in denial of documented facts, willing to mislead Americans about the dangers and lack of transparency of Internet Voting, and wholly dismissive of the notion that self-governance requires the ability for citizen oversight.

He's been on his obsessive crusade for years and doesn't seem to give a damn about the points mentioned above. Kinda like Diebold used to be come to think of it. But I have no reason to believe Kelleher is a scammer (though fully open to the possibility). At this time, he appears to be just plain wrong. Often obnoxiously so.

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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 09:41 PM
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2. I am guessing follow the money.....
Either right wing money funding him or he stands to make a killing as a private contractor.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 09:49 PM
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3. It looks like he has set up his own "Empathic Science Institute"....
and he's the only one in it from what I can find. All the links there go to stuff written by him. His "Institute" address is P.O.Box 912, La Cañada-Flintridge, CA 91012-0912. It looks to me to be some guy trying to sell his books. I can't find anything about him that would give him credibility or standing in the professional field.

http://www.empathicscience.org/

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Bill_Kelleher Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-10 07:30 PM
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4. Its ME!
Check me out right here!
Bill_Kelleher
Lets talk about the way Internet voting can enhance our democracy, and neutralize Big Money!!
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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-10 08:06 PM
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5. Welcome to the board Bill...
and good luck with the discussion it may get a bit lively.
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Bill_Kelleher Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 03:06 PM
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7. Discussion of Internet Voting
Thanks for the welcome! Hey, this is way better than Brads Blog. He won't let me make my case to his readers. He only wants them to know the paper pusher's side.
But times are changing. We progressives had better start preparing now for the election technology of the near future. If we don't, the corporations will surely use it to their advantage.

Bill Kelleher
(click on my profile button, above)
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