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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-10 03:34 PM
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Painfully obvious many in the Far Right have a poor unnerstanding of the Term;;;THEORY...it has
multiple meanings....thus their confusion of EVOLUTION...they thinks its just a "Theory"...... nothing but conjecture....

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/theory

They should refer to the dictionary more often...

Evolution is Fact....not 1/2 monkey...1/2 Human as described by Beck...

C.O'D also has a poor understanding of the term....

as well as too many on the Right
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mrcheerful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-10 04:07 PM
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1. The theory of a 1/2 monkey 1/2 human Came from and has been pushed by the religious wing nuts since
Darwin first published his theory on evolution. Humans are not as closely related to monkeys as the religious challenged say, we are distant cousins of the great apes and we might have had a common ancestor some time in the distant past.

I have heard and read some stuff that questions a shared ancestor, but that is speculation and not a theory as there has been no evidence to give any facts to support that speculation. Btw, I doubt there will ever be a missing link as many past scientists claimed there would be at the time of the Scopes trial, my guess is that the distant ancestor is so far back that it wouldn't be ape like, but thats just my opinion on our distant missing link.
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FirstTimeVoterAt37 Donating Member (380 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-10 04:24 PM
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2. Evolution is a fact, Evolutionary Theory is the mechanics of that fact
Edited on Fri Oct-22-10 04:26 PM by FirstTimeVoterAt37
What's theoretical is not if it exists, but exactly how it works.

Sort of like how I personally have to theorize about how a computer works, but it's a fact that I'm typing on one right now.
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The Traveler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-10 04:46 PM
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3. Evolution is not a fact
Sorry for being verbose, but I think you and many people miss an important distinction.

The "Theory of Evolution" is more significant than a mere fact. A theory is a conceptual framework that allows us to relate disparate facts to each other and predict new facts we will discover when we look either through observation or experiment ... the genetic similarity of chimpanzees and humans is a fact predicted by the theory of evolution, for example.

"Scientific Creationism" does not facilitate the generation of those kinds of predictions. Its adherents always operate in a post facto manner ... they will try to fit facts into the framework but make no attempt to make predictions. Because "Scientific Creationism" (or whatever they are calling it this year) cannot be used to generate useful predictions, it cannot be properly termed a theory at all.

Scientists change theories about as often as most of us change under wear, so it should surprise no one that there is no single "Theory of Evolution". There are several different variants of the theory, each of which is based on Darwin's central hypothesis but which differ in important details. Similarly, there is no single theory of mechanics in use today. We use Newton's formulation for most common engineering tasks, but the quantum formulation for semiconductor component design and the relativistic formulation for nuclear reactor core designs and so on.

It is not the objective of Science to discover "Truth". Rather, it is the objective of science to develop ever more refined models that are useful over an ever wider range of study. There are a wide range of questions humans find important which are not suitable for direct approach with the scientific method. Difficulty emerges when one attempts to employ the scientific method in a regime for which it is not suited, and also when it is denied when it is clearly functioning within its purview.

How can we tell in which realm we find ourselves, when we regard a proposition? If an experiment can be designed that can REJECT a hypothesis, then the matter is suitable for scientific examination. If no such experiment can be designed, even conceptually, then the matter is outside the purview of science. Hence, attempts to use science to support or reject claims regarding the existance of a deity are equally absurd, and are a complete waste of time.

Trav
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-10 04:53 PM
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4. Evolution is an observable fact, it is the mechanism of evolution
for which there are several theories. Natural Selection is the most widely accepted theory. But evolution itself has been established as fact.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-10 06:50 PM
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5. Me thinks: Evolution is the passage of "Time" with re to all things present in our Universe
Edited on Fri Oct-22-10 06:52 PM by opihimoimoi
and perhaps, other Universes...

Many kinds of evolutions as well...from Wright Bros first plane to jets and now drones....

From old gov't systems to new ones...Republics included

and now we see changes from the Old System to that of new and better ones...

Oue own pol system is undergoing changes....we went from old exploitive ones.... saw the damage...and now see the room for improvements...

thus Obama....

Its still in the Flux.....but Obama has positivity which should carry the day..

Evolution is the changes that happens over time...on a grand scale....
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