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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 11:19 AM
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Conventional Wisdom: Both parties are purging moderates, creating a vacuum at the center
Edited on Tue Nov-23-10 11:23 AM by BurtWorm
Actually, voters are purging the center-right. The Republicans are so extreme that they've artificially moved the "center" to where their party used to be. Not one Democrat that I can think of is anywhere near as extreme in his or her leftism as the Republican base has forced their representatives in Congress to be on the right. Al Franken? He's a classic old-style liberal. Even Bernie Sanders, a card-carrying Socialist, is classically liberal. There are no bomb-throwers that I can see among the Dems. (Which, I think, is part of their problem!)

The excerpts below is from commentary on Yahoo's political blog that, while sounding pessimistic about the pending gridlock and falsely blaming both parties equally, has some encouraging news for Dems: the independents Repubs relied on to take back the House don't want more of the same old shit, which is exactly what Repubs are loudly proclaiming is in store for us all.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_exclusive/20101122/pl_yblog_exclusive/impact-of-midterm-elections-most-americans-bet-on-gridlock

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"The idea that there will be any kind of bipartisan cooperation is naïve," says Greg Valliere, chief political strategist for Potomac Research Group. "Both parties are purging moderates who have had the temerity to compromise; we've never seen such a vacuum in the center."

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If gridlock is the order of the day, however, Americans are far less in agreement over whether that's good or bad. By large majorities, registered voters who are Democrats or independents tend to see it in a negative light: some 67 percent of Democrats and 57 percent of independents say that they believe gridlock is a bad thing, as it will keep good legislation from being passed.

By contrast, a hefty share of Republican registered voters have a positive view of gridlock. Some 43 percent of GOP respondents said they thought gridlock was a good thing, because it means bad legislation fails. That's roughly the same number of Republican registered voters, at 42 percent, who think that gridlock is bad.

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The numbers underscore the difficulties ahead for President Obama as the White House regroups and attempts to redefine an agenda on which it can find some middle ground with the newly empowered Republicans in Congress. Given the Democrats' much diminished strength, that will be difficult. Moreover, having been amply rewarded at the polls for largely refusing to go along with Obama's priorities for the past two years, many GOP leaders see little reason to change course.

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notesdev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 11:21 AM
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1. Being in the "center"
just means that one is either uninterested, uninformed, or has a complete lack of principles.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 11:24 AM
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2. Yup. (nt)
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 11:26 AM
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4. +1
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 11:27 AM
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5. Right on!
Especially in these times.
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Hawkowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 11:33 AM
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8. Obama to a T.
Edited on Tue Nov-23-10 11:33 AM by Hawkowl
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kctim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 11:40 AM
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9. Or that one just simply believes in balance
instead of a free-for-all or controlled form of government where individuals are on their own or mandated how to live.
Its not a lack of principles, its the fact that we dare to hold our own instead of the one's demanded by the extremes.

Its why the "center" types make up the majority of either party.
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 11:45 AM
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10. I think a good example of the Center is Democrats are willing to
continue the Bush* Tax Cuts for the middle class. Those tax cuts are not necessary to stimulate the economy and in fact by denying the Government resources many jobs will never happen. The government buys a lot of stuff that is built by American workers. Stuff like highways and bridges and airports and boat harbors and well you get the picture...When the Government has more resources it does more things for the country...Those things not only provide for jobs but also safety and convenience for the people...Anyway by allowing those tax cuts for the middle class to continue they give the appearance of helping people when in reality the people are being denied..By not allowing the tax cuts for the very wealthy to continue they have claimed some middle ground..Democrats do this all the time while Republicans just move further right.. Just as soon as Democrats buckle on the tax cuts for the wealthy Republicans will be calling for them to not only be renewed but increased....That is their middle ground..
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 11:25 AM
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3. Interesting number on Republicans with a "positive view" of gridlock.
The propaganda machine is working pretty well, I guess.
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Pathwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 11:28 AM
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6. Meet the new gRidlock, slightly different from the old griDlock.
Only a letter changes.
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grumgrum Donating Member (164 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 11:31 AM
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7. Let's be clear..Moderate means Corporate Sell-out (e.g. Bayh)
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Cosmocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 11:47 AM
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11. Why the FRUCK does every lugnut ...
in the media have to do the "both parties" crape ...

I seriously can't think of ONE example where the Ds' "purged" moderates ...

Seriously, give me one fricken example ...

The bluedogs got slaughtered by extreme right candidates in the general ...

The Blanche Lincolns of the world cleared the primaries ...

There are three political groups today ...

Rs, who vote in one big, homogenious block, progressive Ds and blue dogs ...

The "middle" is the right of the democratic block ...
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 12:09 PM
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12. In fact they PROMOTED Steve Israel, a **right winger**
to lead the 2012 Congressional campaign.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 12:14 PM
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13. Moderates cannot possibly moderate between Dems and Repukes:
because moderates are to the left of both parties.
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