Assange: "If Something Happens To Us Key Parts Of Cablegate Archive Will Be Released Automatically"

[Turborama]

WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, answering http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2010/dec/03/julian-assange-wikileaks">Guardian readers' questions online today, was asked what would happen if he was "taken out" either technically or physically.

He said: "The Cable Gate archive has been spread, along with significant material from the US and other countries to over 100,000 people in encrypted form. If something happens to us, the key parts will be released automatically.

"Further, the Cablegate archives is in the hands of multiple news organisations. History will win. The world will be elevated to a better place. Will we survive? that depends on you."

Found here: http://jonslattery.blogspot.com/2010/12/assange-if-something-happens-to-us-key.html



http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9680192">Do You Want To Know A Secret? - Julian Assange On The Cover Of Time

[Horse with no Name]

1. Truth to be found in the darkest corners.

We live in strange times.

[The Doctor.]

2. There is a flip-side to holding an ace;

You give those who want to see it played incentive to act against you.

[northernlights]

3. I think the point is the ace is played with or without Assange or Wikileaks proper

dead or alive, the information is already set up to be released.

Kind of takes away all incentive except revenge...

[patrice]

7. a VERY relevant principle in many dimensions of our current situation . . . maybe.

[niyad]

4. of course it is set to be released--the man certainly isn't stupid. tptb had to know this.

[treestar]

5. So something real important is being held back to protect him?

so much for the "hero" status.

[Horse with no Name]

6. Something important is being held back to assure that the TRUTH

makes it out of the scuffle.
The ONLY thing that captures the attention of the sheeple is sheer shock value.
I think he knows this.
It is the only way for the truth to be paid attention to.

[patrice]

13. It may also be about timing. There are things that need to happen with prior releases.

The information NEEDS to take root.

Subsequent stuff may be powerful, but it's usefulness could be affected by dumping it all at once.

Maybe what is already learned, earlier in the process, helps protect not only Assange, but also the later information itself.

[treestar]

26. But if it is so fucking important it should be released NOW!

LOL, can't believe this! This guy is allowed to protect his own ass, over something important to us all (or so you would have it) but Obama is supposed to do things only a small minority wants and lose the next election because of it, so it's "courageous."

Who cares about the timing? You are showing that your only real goal is that it cause as much damage to our country as possible! Un-fucking believable!

[EOTE]

32. What a piss poor comparison.

No, we expect Obama to do what the majority wants him to do. Things like repeal DADT, support a public option and repeal the tax cuts for the top 2% of income earners. These are all things that have the majority of public support, but he doesn't do them because, fuck I don't know, he wants to be more bipartisan? And Assange is staggering the release of his documents so he doesn't fucking die. Apparently you think coddling up to republicans takes more courage than risking your life and livelihood so that the world can see the awful things done in our name.

Dense, dense dense. Unfucking believable is right.

[WinkyDink]

33. You don't like his timing? Become brave and do it yourself.

[patrice]

40. I will refrain from making unfounded assumptions about you if you refrain from doing the same re me.

I CARE about how well the information works to reveal who owns and runs this country.

I believe that Assange and associates know more about what's in the information than I do.

It is possible that what they know about the information reveals that our situation relative to these facts is similar to migrating code into a living network; you can crash the whole network, or you can stage your code relative to operations, so that the code has its INTENDED effect. The only counter I can think of to this possibility would be to know all of the information (code) and all of the network ("reality") so completely as to be able to make that determination myself, i.e. "Timing doesn't affect effect (or effect affect?)", I don't know enough to make that determination, so I'm willing to defer to some who knows more than I do about the information and its relationship to our situaiton. Whether what they know is "enough" or not, I'll just have to take the chance, especially since its beyond my control. Since it IS beyond my control, I could be wrong in trusting Assange et al, but I don't have much choice and, that lack aside, there is some chance that I am correct in estimating that there is something about the information itself that is affected by the timing of its release.

[molly77]

35. Horse with no Name

Hadn't thought about that ..re. the leaks coming out at different times. So true.

[tavalon]

8. He can't be a hero if his ass isn't completely flying in the wind?

He and his organization are really smart and they know that they can't keep doing this if TPTB think they can stop them. It's insurance, but not just for Assange's life. TPTB must remain immobilized or they will have something much worse to deal with. It only makes sense.

[treestar]

23. What about the "courage" that is demanded of others?

How can you be a hero without you "ass flying in the wind?" Troops going into battle, etc?

[bemildred]

10. Its more like if it becomes impossible to release it edited, then it will be released raw. nt

[laughingliberal]

19. Assange has already addressed the issue of timed releases over and over.

Dumping all the information he has at one time would mean an overwhelm that would cause important pieces to be missed in the onslaught. As it is, it will take weeks, maybe months, for everything in the last release to be analyzed for its significance.

The oligarchs and those who love them don't see him as a hero. Me? I certainly do.

[EOTE]

31. I see. The only REAL heroes are the dead ones. That makes sense. NT

[drm604]

9. The so-called insurance file.

It was obvious that this was what it was for. Obviously the decryption key will be released in some manner if anything happens.

[Poll_Blind]

11. As I suspected, it's on a dead-man's switch. So he doesn't check in to...

...a certain site, every 2 weeks say, and the e-mails automatically go out. I'm staring at my copy of insurance.aes256, weighing in at 1.5GB and thinking that's going to go at least to 3GB if not a lot more if it was compressed with something like 7zip, which it almost certainly was.

PB

[Turborama]

17. I've got a feeling there's a video on there

Remember that CIA torture tape that just turned up out of the blue in August?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4506289

Could be that, could be something else...

:hi:

[femrap]

12. He said he has

info on a major US Bankster that he'll release in 2011! It's on the line of Enron information....truly shows how evil the banksters are.

This is probably more scary to TPTB than releasing Government cables. IMHO.

[Lucinda]

37. think so too...especially if it ties the govt and the bank together in a bad way

[Renew Deal]

14. He's so pompous

And he severely over-estimates his importance.

[yodermon]

16. it's a good deflection

wikileaks was founded by chinese dissidents.
all this Assange ad-hominem stuff is hilarious.
by all means let's perpetuate the myth that this is a 1-man show :rofl:

[laughingliberal]

20. +1 nt

[Dreamer Tatum]

27. I only see him on the cover of Time, Skippy. nt

[yodermon]

39. lol, BFD

"a thousand WikiLeaks"
"decentralized whistleblower platform"
http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,719619,00.html

This is bigger than julian fucking assange. "oooh, lookit the pompous ass on the time mag cover!!" :rofl:
If his 15 minutes are up, then on to the next model.

[Dreamer Tatum]

42. Tell that to him, not me. nt

[patrice]

47. Uh, jealous? I don't know who thinks it's a "1-man show" but you. It's soooo obviously not, so . . .

Why do you think that he thinks that?

Links please.

[yodermon]

51. i'm talking about the media obsession with JA.

if a single person becomes the focal point & object of ad-hom attacks, the rest of the organization can carry on, or even split off.
It's great theater.
"jealous"? i don't follow.

[patrice]

52. a thousand pardons . . . Yeah, that's MSM for you. Stupid oversimplification!

:hi:

[WinkyDink]

36. Right. Becasue you already KNOW what all the forthcoming documents will reveal.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9681036

[eShirl]

44. and his name sounds FRENCH!

egads

[RufusTFirefly]

15. Uh-oh. Looks like it's time to think about shutting down the InterTubes

For the good of the Nayshun!

[katnapped]

18. That's what I'm afraid of

Never mind the logistics of "shutting down the internet" being ridiculous, but I fully expect them to try something like that if it came down to it.

[RufusTFirefly]

21. The 2003 documentary "Orwell Rolls in His Grave" predicted it

I'm not sure from whom the quote came (the late Chalmers Johnson, perhaps?), but someone suggested that authorities would justify clamping down on the Internet for reasons of national security.

They already do it to a great extent in China, after all. Thanks to our All-American networking support.

[Turborama]

22. They can block access really easily

Look at how China can just flick availability on and off at will.

[RufusTFirefly]

29. Creepy thing happened earlier this year with Yahoo on Comcast

Yahoo mail users on Comcast lost access to their e-mail for several hours.
Something that specific shouldn't happen.
But it did.

Pretty creepy.

[Turborama]

41. I can believe that

My ISP is currently blocking all subscribers from accessing any sites related to torr-ents (I had to do that otherwise I couldn't send this reply, I kid you not).

More details in here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9678792#9678807

[Matariki]

25. Well in many parts of the world, access is severely limited.

China, Pakistan, most of the Middle East, hell, even Australia has gates on what it's citizens can get to.

[Matariki]

28. Wonder if history will remember the last decade as the short time mass communications

was in the hands of the people and not controlled in a single direction by the powers that be.

I hope this is something we can preserve. I know people in IT who take an open internet for granted, say it's too big and unorganized to control. But really, you just have to look to China for an example of how it's done.

[AspenRose]

30. Yep.

Got an email from Senator Franken today about Net Neutrality. Sam Seder was talking about it as well on his show this week.

[Dreamer Tatum]

24. Heh. What a fraudulent, scumbag PT Barnum wannabe jerkoff.

If he had anything that we just HAVE to see to indict any leader, he'd just put it out there and not use it as a doomsday machine.

Pfft.

[WinkyDink]

34. He's already given evidence of war crimes. He can't ARREST people.

[MedicalAdmin]

38. So he is the public face and target for disident and whisleblowers

And you are pissed at him because he is trying to make sure he lives? Is that about it?

Wow.

[patrice]

50. THAT's exactly and precisely what it's about.

[Turborama]

58. He has constantly referred to himself as the "lightening rod"

Here's the latest quote of him saying it during The Guardian's Q&A...

"In the end, someone must be responsible to the public and only a leadership that is willing to be publicly courageous can genuinely suggest that sources take risks for the greater good," he said.

"In that process, I have become the lightning rod. I get undue attacks on every aspect of my life, but then I also get undue credit as some kind of balancing force."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40491489/ns/us_news-wikileaks_in_security

[eShirl]

43. Where's the fraud?

[MedicalAdmin]

53. The fraud is from the guy who sold Tatum that book on logic.

I'm afraid I'm not seeing much logic being used in Tatum's post. Unless one equates logic use with drug use, in which case he's a logic abuser and needs an intervention.

[girl gone mad]

57. I'm guessing you have a big stash of duct tape and plastic.

[Swamp Rat]

45. k&r

:)

[Azathoth]

46. Why not release the file unencrypted? Why the cloak and dagger show?

Could it be because drawing out the release for weeks means more media attention for Mr. Assange?

[SidDithers]

49. Bingo!...

oh, and if you feel so inclined, he's also accepting donations to the Julian Assange Legal Defense Fund.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=9679903
:rofl:

Sid

[girl gone mad]

56. Information management is not rocket science.

If you dump the data all at once, scholars, journalists, etc. will find the amount of information unwieldy and overwhelming.

Every media organization picks and chooses what it wants to publish each day, always holding back a certain amount of news, to be discarded or released at a later date.

Assange will be in the news and a part of popular culture well into the future, regardless of how this data is circulated. The Wikileaks organization has been smart to control the flow of materials in a way that allows for humans to process it most efficiently.

[ladjf]

48. Pretty smart. He's using the "J. Edgar Hoover blackmail defense." nt

[live love laugh]

54. Heart be still. I think I just fell in love again. Thank. You. Assange. nt

[spanone]

55. shaken, not stirred...

[bluesmail]

59. I love it. The leverage. I am rooting for all the wikileakers, GO and be as safe as you

possibly can be. You've done the world a great service.