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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 02:45 PM
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OMIGAWD! I just realized that I am starting to get that feeling in the pit of my stomach that I
used to get when Bush spoke>>..only now it is happening when I hear Obama or his press secretary speak!! :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

I am horrified by this realization, and the circumstances that have precipitated it!!!

I cannot even listen to the news any more...I feel betrayed.

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HERVEPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 02:47 PM
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1. This has been happening to me for a while now. Unbelievable.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 02:49 PM
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2. I know. After not listening to the "President" for eight years, after the last election
... I thought, "finally! A President I can look forward to hearing, once again!"

Now, the feeling is: "Why tune in to a bunch of stuff that isn't true?"
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Crazy Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 02:49 PM
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3. I think Bush accidentally left his "Fear Tactics" manual in the Oval Office
I'm actually waiting to hear a "yellow cake uranium" type speech if the defense contractors and the GOP pressure Obama to go to war with Iran or N. Korea.
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reformist2 Donating Member (998 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 02:51 PM
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8. That's what I'm REALLY afraid of. :(
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 02:49 PM
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4. No sure why the software duped this...
Edited on Thu Dec-09-10 02:55 PM by villager
Saying my piece once was enough. ;-)
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marylanddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 02:50 PM
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5. Me, too
But I've felt that for about a year. I am so sad for my country.
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Lebam in LA Donating Member (717 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 02:50 PM
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6. I feel the exact same way
I had to turn off MSNBC last night because they kept playing his comments.

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DesertRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 02:51 PM
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7. Yup, me too. n/t
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 02:52 PM
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9. I usually record the news so I can fast forward through the commercials.
Lately I've been doing the same when Obama comes on.
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Spike from MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 02:52 PM
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10. Way ahead of you.
I was already there during the primaries. Then I decided to just stop watching TV and haven't really gone back (except for local news, an occasional movie, etc.)
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 02:52 PM
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11. the familiar visceral reaction
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 02:53 PM
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12. I've had it since his FISA vote. It only got steadily worse
Now I can't listen to him at all. Just seeing him on TV sends me into the same kind of disgust I had with Bush.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 03:12 PM
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22. FISA was the first alert for me.
How can a Harvard constitutional lawyer have such a poor grasp on the Constitution?

That set off the warning bells for me.
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 02:56 PM
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13. Happened to me awhile ago...
Edited on Thu Dec-09-10 02:56 PM by ljm2002
...in fact it was during the health care debates, when he started in with the smarmy "If you like your health care you can keep it", which was an obvious lie: because what he wasn't saying was, a) even if you like it, it can and will be changed by your employer, with costs going up and deductibles and copays going up; and b) if you don't like it, you will still be forced to keep it. In other words, he had clearly mastered the art of delivering comforting bromides while avoiding discussing substance.

But I'm not as bummed as some are, because I wasn't totally enthusiastic about him in the first place, die-hard old lefty that I am; and also because of something my daughter said years ago in regard to Clinton and lying. What she said about Presidential lying was, "It's a job requirement". Once I realized the truth of that, I don't get so mad that they lie. However, I still do often find it impossible to listen to him and others, for that very reason, that they either lie or obfuscate, and they do it not accidentally but on purpose. They don't want informed and engaged citizens. It is not the country we live in anymore. (on edit): If it ever was.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 02:56 PM
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14. This place is becoming a positive feedback loop for hysteria and misery.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 02:58 PM
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15. Seems it's been doused by RW Kool Aid to me...
It's scary when I hear the same crap on DU that I'm hearing from the Repukes.
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 01:03 AM
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37. scarier yet when I see Obama enacting right wing policies
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 03:04 AM
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41. And also scary, the thick deluded denial that remains here yet still among some
Edited on Fri Dec-10-10 03:06 AM by chill_wind
about so many of those policies and capitulations to conservatives.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 11:38 AM
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47. Maybe somebody's slipping KoolAid into your coffee.
Why would clear-thinking people accept lies
from one mouth and not another.

Lies are lies.

We are headed in the wrong direction.
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cottonseed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 11:36 AM
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46. That's what I see too.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 02:59 PM
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16. That feeling began happening for me during the gusher in the Gulf
Its getting worse.
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 03:03 PM
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17. For me it's not at all like listening to Bush, but it's exactly like listening to Clinton
When I listened to Bush I thought he was an idiot. When I listened to Clinton it was more like "that's a lot of focus-grouped, triangulation, political bullshit" from a politician with no real core beliefs...
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 03:13 PM
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23. Very interesting point...
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 03:18 PM
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25. And don't get me wrong, I supported Clinton as a politician
but I had no idealized vision of him as someone I looked up to. He was just a politician.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 03:40 PM
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26. I understand. I think your analysis was spot on.,
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mochajava666 Donating Member (771 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 03:07 PM
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18. It first started with Rahm, then Gibbs, and now Obama
Betrayal from someone that you worked so hard to support especially hurts. He sure seems disgusted with his liberal base, so maybe the feelings are mutual.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 03:07 PM
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19. oh, the drama!
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 03:09 PM
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20. It has happened to me several times as of late when I see or hear Obama
Now my subconscious goes "There's Bush".

I remind myself Obama isn't Bush. As I stated it has happened more than once.

I think it is no coincidence given the policies Obama is approving.

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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 03:10 PM
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21. I do not feel betrayed by President Obama, in fact, I am not at all surprised with the
Direction things are headed in our capital, nor am I surprised that so many that voted for him are now crying foul without taking the time to honestly go over all that he stated leading up to and even after his election. He cannot do this alone, "we can" was much more than a slogan in order to garner votes it was a warning on what would be needed to forge ahead and get what we the people, the majority need done in order for our lives to gain momentum not lose it.

But sadly, not enough people truly understood or perhaps were willfully ignorant that it was going to take more than one mere man to fight the powerful, greedy, criminal like individuals that truly run our standing government, and that more than a mere pittance of American citizens would have to take it to the very steps of power to prove their outrage was not to be ignored, alas, we fell short in the short term, not him, he is under lock and key and must tread warily, we as one could never so easily be enslaved but we are not as one, we have followed orders accordingly and have become divided,

And cliche as it may be, United We Stand Divided We Fall
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 05:25 PM
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32. We expected a Centrist, not a Rightest.
Disabling Social Security, expanding aggressive wars, continuing rendition and not restoring Habeas Corpus is NOT Centrist.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 05:55 PM
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33. His environmental policies also lean more right than centrist.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 12:43 AM
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34. No appreciable difference from the previous administration there.
Mountaintop removal-check.
Tarsands developement-check.
Offshore oil drilling-check (except a small exception in the gulf and off Florida).
Coal, (well now it's "clean")-check.
Nuclear-check.
Wolves being exterminated-check.

Putting "new" dems (aka corporatist republicans) in charge of interior most definitely not centrist.

And don't get me started on agriculture.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 03:17 PM
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24. stop listening then
If it is causing you such distress you shouldn't keep doing it.

:shrug:
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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 04:00 PM
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27. I don't feel betrayed, but I never fully bought into the "hope and change" bullshit.
I was desperate to be rid of Bush, and desperate to keep McCain/Palin out of the White House and One Observatory Circle. I didn't see much difference between Obama and Clinton; he was the last Democrat standing, so he got my vote (and some volunteer time). Was I thrilled on election and inauguration days? Yes, but it's been downhill since then. (Well, even on inauguration day I felt queasy with Rick Warren...what a cynical choice that was.) I now have a visceral reaction when I see Obama, like I did with Bush.

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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 05:11 PM
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31. I wish I had had your insight.
I bought it all..hook, line and sinker. What a dummy I was. I hope I learned the lesson, and never get fooled like that again.
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pecwae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 06:55 AM
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44. I think you may speak for many.
You said it for me.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 04:00 PM
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28. You can join my hubby
he said "just like Bush, but better spoken..."
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somone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 04:08 PM
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29. The trust is broken
Edited on Thu Dec-09-10 04:09 PM by somone
and now it's like a broken record sitting on a bullshit machine
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howaboutme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 01:39 AM
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39. Well said!!!
I posted earlier that I believed Obama failed to "capture the moment" after he was elected. You've just captured the moment here.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 04:09 PM
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30. Me too, and I think it makes me even angrier.
Bush didn't know any better, being an idiotic stooge. Obama - well, I don't think he's stupid. Which may be even worse.
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 12:59 AM
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35. I felt that earlier when he was on TV
Edited on Fri Dec-10-10 01:01 AM by niceypoo


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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 01:02 AM
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36. happened to me some time ago...
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howaboutme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 01:33 AM
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38. When credibility is lost - this is what happens
I've been feeling exactly the same way. It was about hearing the right words but never seeing the logical and expected followup actions. Bush said it best "here's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again."

Once I get that feeling of "I don't want to hear that same BS again from this individual", I know how I am. It takes me a while to reach a point of BS saturation, but once I reach it, I will not likely ever change in opinion and for me that is not good, and it is about seeing expectations being trampled.

Obama had the country in the palm of his hands after his election, and instead he failed to capture the moment. He needed to punish Wall Street and break up the too big to fail banks and revise their obscene compensation system, but instead he rewarded them. From there he would have gained the political power necessary to make other needed changes but instead he allowed his credibility and power to be slowly eroded through a lack of strong leadership. The same pattern prevailed with the BP spill. He failed to lead and instead he became weak.
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MrsCorleone Donating Member (844 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 01:47 AM
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40. FFS.
Stop listening to the "news".
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Hawkowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 03:39 AM
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42. Join the club
It happened to me sometime this spring. I really couldn't be more dismayed.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 03:56 AM
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43. No -- that reaction is something you should appreciate .....
Edited on Fri Dec-10-10 03:56 AM by defendandprotect
it's your BS meter going off --

I've always had it -- could never watch the Sunday shows --

and have never listened to an Obama speech --

if necesary I scan text -- that's all.

Think it just means you're seeing things for what they actually are --

And most of us are there with you -- !!



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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 11:30 AM
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45. I had noticed that Bush acquired certain facial expressions
the longer he was in office. I am seeing some of the same ones in Obama. I think they were both drugged. I am serious. I mean the tongue in the side of the mouth thing. I find these ticks very odd.
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