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Faryn Balyncd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 01:28 PM Original message |
"Payroll Tax Holiday" - - - the political equivalent of a "Pay Day Loan" scam for American workers: |
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AzDar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
1. K & R |
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Waiting For Everyman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
2. K&R |
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Poboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
3. Recommend. |
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prairierose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
4. This is important information...I hope that ... |
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sasquuatch55 (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 08:43 AM Response to Reply #4 |
94. HOLIDAY........... sounds so wonderful!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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myrna minx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 01:33 PM Response to Original message |
5. K&R. n/t |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 01:36 PM Response to Original message |
6. K&R |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 01:36 PM Response to Original message |
7. If you've been paying attention for the last few decades then you'd know this is a trap. |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 09:41 PM Response to Reply #7 |
59. this country... |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
8. this is the biggest and most dire part of the Repo/Obama backroom tax deal. |
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Faryn Balyncd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 01:48 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. And the consequences of which the corporate media remains most silent. |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 02:05 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Barely a peep. 20 mentions on NPR of the obscene, but only one mention of the insane. |
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seafan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
11. And this president is an accomplice in this Social Security heist. |
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WhaTHellsgoingonhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 02:14 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. True! Kicked |
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corpseratemedia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 03:01 PM Response to Reply #11 |
18. +1000 |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 05:54 AM Response to Reply #11 |
85. He absolutely is. nt |
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Faygo Kid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 09:41 AM Response to Reply #11 |
97. Simpson, Bowles and the Catfood Commission. Absolutely. |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 02:12 PM Response to Original message |
12. The Payroll Tax "holiday" is the most insidious component... |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 05:55 AM Response to Reply #12 |
86. Plus fucking one! nt |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 02:15 PM Response to Original message |
14. payday loan -- good analogy |
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sasha031 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 02:17 PM Response to Original message |
15. that last pic speaks volumes, they are laughing at us |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 09:43 PM Response to Reply #15 |
60. "they are laughing at us"... |
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fmlymninral (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 02:22 PM Response to Original message |
16. according to the news |
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Faryn Balyncd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 02:36 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. I think the reason the right wing has favored this is they will OBSTRUCT future re-instatement.... |
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Cherchez la Femme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 05:52 PM Response to Reply #17 |
42. As Dubya's team gloated when they got |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 02:40 AM Response to Reply #17 |
79. And, of course, when they do so it will be because "the Democrats |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 09:49 PM Response to Reply #17 |
109. Not only that but they will do some "funny accounting" |
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ljm2002 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 03:50 PM Response to Reply #16 |
29. This would be the first time EVER... |
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dixiegrrrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 04:36 PM Response to Reply #29 |
34. I have my doubts that the supposed money IS in the Soc. Sec. fund. |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 09:46 PM Response to Reply #34 |
61. ""moved" from the Soc. Sec. category to the general fund category" |
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ljm2002 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 04:18 AM Response to Reply #34 |
80. This is another right wing talking point... |
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Foo Fighter (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 11:39 PM Response to Reply #29 |
72. FDR set it up to be self-funding for the explicit purpose of preventing |
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dixiegrrrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 04:31 PM Response to Reply #16 |
33. but..as the article said: |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 05:37 PM Response to Reply #33 |
38. Good points in your #32 and #33. |
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Cherchez la Femme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 06:16 PM Response to Reply #16 |
44. So why not leave SS alone, and |
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Foo Fighter (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 12:11 AM Response to Reply #44 |
73. Exactly. They could do another "Making Work Pay" tax credit or give |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 09:52 PM Response to Reply #44 |
110. Obama already admitted that he's for "reforming entitlements" |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 08:01 PM Response to Reply #16 |
53. So, then we'll borrow for Social Security from China |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 03:08 PM Response to Original message |
19. Kick -- already rec'd and bookmarked this earlier. |
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pacalo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
20. K&R. Thanks for the info -- needs to be included in e-mails to congresspeople. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 03:22 PM Response to Original message |
21. It is truly beyond words! |
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indimuse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 03:24 PM Response to Original message |
22. HUGE KNR!! |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 03:27 PM Response to Original message |
23. K&R... |
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sasha031 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 03:29 PM Response to Original message |
24. I know this is happening, the question is what will we do about it |
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senseandsensibility (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 03:31 PM Response to Original message |
25. Please keep kicked |
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jannyk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 03:36 PM Response to Original message |
26. k&r! Any re-instatement will be framed as a 'Tax Increase' by the |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 03:37 PM Response to Original message |
27. Connects all the dots. |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 03:44 PM Response to Original message |
28. K&R and bookmarked! n/t |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 04:08 PM Response to Original message |
30. The only question now |
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Little Star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 04:10 PM Response to Original message |
31. most excellent post Faryn! I can't believe a.... |
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Gin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 04:21 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. first they drain the treasury....next the entitlements...and Obama helps |
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dixiegrrrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 04:44 PM Response to Original message |
35. But the goods news is they do not have the votes to pass it, yes??? |
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Kermitt Gribble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 05:17 PM Response to Original message |
36. K&R |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 05:26 PM Response to Original message |
37. Excellent post. The "payroll tax holiday" will weaken SS. |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 05:42 PM Response to Original message |
39. This is probably the worst part of the stinky bill. |
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 05:43 PM Response to Original message |
40. k&r |
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Cherchez la Femme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 05:45 PM Response to Original message |
41. I think I saw brick at the back of the theatre |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 06:01 AM Response to Reply #41 |
88. Yeah, the word 'holiday' implies |
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Raine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 06:11 PM Response to Original message |
43. EXCELLENT info here |
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True_Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 06:30 PM Response to Original message |
45. Thanks for the info! |
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Bozita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 06:34 PM Response to Original message |
46. Superb post! ... Thank you |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 06:36 PM Response to Original message |
47. The holiday for the payroll tax is a direct transfer of a portion of the |
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skepticscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 11:18 AM Response to Reply #47 |
101. Well, sad to say |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 11:26 AM Response to Reply #101 |
102. Obama may secretly favor the privatization of all pensions |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 06:37 PM Response to Original message |
48. K&R and hurts the working poor |
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glinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 06:54 PM Response to Original message |
49. K & R n/t |
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lordsummerisle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 07:30 PM Response to Original message |
50. We need to get this message |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 07:46 PM Response to Original message |
51. K&R nt |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 07:59 PM Response to Original message |
52. Thanks for posting this loud and clear! |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 08:06 PM Response to Original message |
54. Keep up the pressure on your Reps. |
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Dinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 09:22 PM Response to Original message |
55. K & R |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 09:23 PM Response to Original message |
56. Not according to Nouriel Roubini |
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hay rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 01:50 AM Response to Reply #56 |
76. From the article: |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 09:40 AM Response to Reply #76 |
96. It's being fully funded by the general fund. |
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Hydra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 03:02 PM Response to Reply #96 |
103. Are you forgetting the part where this goes from being |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 10:08 PM Response to Reply #96 |
113. I'll bet you $100 it will be written in such a way |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 10:01 PM Response to Reply #56 |
111. I'll save you the trouble, folks... |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 10:04 PM Response to Reply #56 |
112. link, link, link, link, link, link, link, link, link, link, link, link... |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 09:39 PM Response to Original message |
57. I am just glad... |
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Overseas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 09:40 PM Response to Original message |
58. K&R ! //nt |
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Kalun D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 09:52 PM Response to Original message |
62. K and R |
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russspeakeasy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 09:59 PM Response to Original message |
63. I did not think of it that way, but you make good points |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 10:40 PM Response to Original message |
64. "Complicit" .... ? |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 06:04 AM Response to Reply #64 |
89. It is perfectly clear to me. nt |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 10:40 PM Response to Original message |
65. the entire bill is a scam, just like "healthcare reform" was |
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pam4water (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 10:45 PM Response to Original message |
66. K&R |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 10:48 PM Response to Original message |
67. A bump in the night |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 10:48 PM Response to Original message |
68. kick |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 10:50 PM Response to Original message |
69. Deleted message |
Foo Fighter (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 11:25 PM Response to Original message |
70. The Payday Loan scam is an excellent analogy. |
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KT2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 11:35 PM Response to Original message |
71. Wall Street raiders |
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somone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 01:33 AM Response to Original message |
74. This is important. Recommended |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 01:38 AM Response to Original message |
75. another great post. KR |
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hay rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 01:55 AM Response to Original message |
77. K&R |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 02:38 AM Response to Original message |
78. I think we should drop the rate and make it permanent. |
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sirthomas66 (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 05:58 AM Response to Reply #78 |
87. Who exactly do you think will do that? The Democrats are coming |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 03:22 PM Response to Reply #87 |
104. The Democrats can propose this and the campaign can be about it. |
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sirthomas66 (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 09:06 PM Response to Reply #104 |
107. Those days are gone............ |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 10:09 PM Response to Reply #78 |
114. I Agree... |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 04:26 AM Response to Original message |
81. Cat food...it's what's for dinner. |
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Art_from_Ark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 05:18 AM Response to Reply #81 |
83. And breakfast and lunch, too |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 09:20 PM Response to Reply #83 |
108. And when it's gone, we'll be forced to eat the cats! |
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me b zola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 04:29 AM Response to Original message |
82. K&R |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 05:53 AM Response to Original message |
84. K&R |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 06:54 AM Response to Original message |
90. I don't care.. |
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Norrin Radd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 06:57 AM Response to Original message |
91. kr |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 08:22 AM Response to Original message |
92. That second picture should be enough |
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democracy1st (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 08:31 AM Response to Original message |
93. K & R |
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Faygo Kid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 09:40 AM Response to Original message |
95. Complete agreement. The destruction of Social Security is certain. |
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happygoluckytoyou (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
98. ooooo...... A SHINY....... oh look..... a squirrel....... AMERICA SHORT ATTENTION SPAN THEATER |
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AnneD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 10:46 AM Response to Original message |
99. Facts..... |
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Maineman (411 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 10:50 AM Response to Original message |
100. Very important information !!! Calls for serious national action. |
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Poboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 06:08 PM Response to Original message |
105. . |
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panzerfaust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 07:59 PM Response to Original message |
106. Heck of a Job Obamie |
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704wipes (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 11:17 PM Response to Original message |
115. the last increase was done under Reagan so that Boomers could pay for |
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florida08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 09:41 AM Response to Original message |
116. great post |
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