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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 09:03 PM
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Revealed: How the CIA protected Nazi murderers


Don't recall seeing this story on my television screen.



Revealed: How the CIA protected Nazi murderers

US shielded war-time collaborators to try to destabilise Soviet Union


By Cristian Salazar and Randy Herschaft in New York
The Independent (London)

Declassified CIA files have revealed that US intelligence officials went to great lengths to protect a Ukrainian fascist leader and suspected Nazi collaborator from prosecution after the Second World War and used him to stir up trouble inside the Soviet Union from an office in New York.

Mykola Lebed led an underground movement to undermine the Kremlin and wage guerrilla operations for the CIA during the Cold War, said a report prepared by two scholars under the supervision of the US National Archives. During the Second World War, Lebed helped to lead a Ukrainian nationalist organization that collaborated with the Nazis in the murder of the Jews of the western Ukraine and also killed thousands of Poles. The report details post-war efforts by US intelligence officials to throw the federal government's Nazi hunters off his trail and to ignore or obscure his past.

The report, titled Hitler's Shadow: Nazi War Criminals, US Intelligence, and the Cold War, draws from an unprecedented trove of records that the CIA was persuaded to declassify, and from more than a million digitised army intelligence files that had long been inaccessible. Among other things, the authors say, the files also show that US intelligence officials used and protected ex-Nazis during the Cold War to a greater extent than previously known.

Elizabeth Holtzman, a former Democratic congresswoman from New York who fought for the disclosure of Nazi files, welcomed the release. "This is a difficult, and in some respects shameful, chapter in American history," she said. "It was not known to the public, and I think it's a mark of governmental courage and of national courage to take this era and these documents and say, 'We want to learn the truth about what our government did', and to do it in a way that was professional and serious."

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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/revealed-how-the-cia-protected-nazi-murderers-2158071.html



Dunno about you, but learning that my nation's spy agency protected NAZI war criminals after World War II would be important to know, considering how my nation today acts like it's run by war criminals.
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 09:05 PM
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1. Sinclair broadcasting VP
Said he use to work for CIA in an interview years ago. That was the 60 stations in Midwest that would not play items criticizing bush in 2004
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 09:14 PM
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2. I thought CIA, by law, is not supposed to interfere domestically.
Yet, they do. For instance, Operation MOCKINGBIRD was their manipulation of U.S. news media.



I wonder by what name the operation goes by these days?
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 09:39 PM
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4. The term mocking has been posted a couple times.
Here is a little truth.

Bad things hate to be mocked, they know deep down they are wrong, and when mocked it makes them think about it. You will find that most bad spiritual things will try to go after someone when they are mocked, even though it is actually just showing them the truth about themselves.

I mock bad some times, but only when they try to claim authority they do not have, nor have earned. Although I also try to be kind, but not going to respect something that is wrong. And think it is better to be kind, but not going to respect something, if I can avoid it that is bad. But there is good and bad in most things, so people have to think on that also.

So they kick people around when they point out they do not have authority, even if they do have some power.


My view of God, is he does not 'need' people to tell him he is God, he created everything, in my view he cares a bit more about making things better for many people. That is my view, why would God of all power and glory, need people to tell him that. Pretty silly notion.


See the contradictions. And why I think it is clear that showing love to God can be done in worship, if it is not for brownie points(market place out of heaven) if it is real sharing of love. And that sharing the values of love and kindness with many is also showing love for God.


But anyways, on the subject of mocking, happens to me sometimes also, and I do occasionally laugh at things that some think are important. But then again, just being a person, it is pretty funny that something that wants people to think it is powerful would have to mock a person, if it had any real power.

It is mostly funny,

but mostly don't do what you know is wrong for fear of someone giving you a hard time. Thats how I think on it, so that makes power irrelevant, but luckily I believe the most power is with ideas that are better, so it is about learning.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 12:28 AM
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17. wrong
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 09:37 PM
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3. How much would you have to hate commies to hire Nazis to bring them down?
Sad to think that protecting capitalism at any cost would create such a moral sinkhole in our history.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 10:01 PM
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5. You REALLY have to read Family of Secrets by Russ Baker.
Their hatred of Communism was/is pathological, and they had no problem with Nazis, who were their ideological allies.

FWIW they consider Socialists and even regular old homegrown Democrats the equivalent of Communists.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 10:52 PM
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9. ''Rather be dead than Red'' pretty much sums it up for those who love property ahead of all else...


Know your BFEE: Money Trumps Peace." -- George W Bush

DU's been an excellent resource for those interested in this news:

Know your War Party, or Money Party, or BFEE: Spawn of Wall Street and the Third Reich

Money creates the moral sinkhole that makes people do bad things, evil things. As when corporations or individuals hurt innocents, when the state harms innocents is evil.
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 12:32 AM
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18. It didn't happen in a vacuum.
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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 12:35 AM
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19. Naturally, they 're projecting the deaths on the cannon-fodder,, not themselves!
Edited on Mon Dec-13-10 12:53 AM by pnorman
Here's another related article from Germany: http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,6321004,00.html

Much of this was well known from some time back. eg: "Blowback": http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/43184/gaddis-smith/blowback-us-recruitment-of-nazis-and-its-effects-on-the-cold-war

Also Google: WACL (World Anti-Communist League"), together with Nazi. That should yield enough 'key words' to keep you Googling till dawn! (PST)
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 10:15 PM
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6. K & R X 10
:hi:
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 11:29 PM
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10. Criticism of the warmongers is verboten.
They even control the arts.



They can't control the truth, though.

Infinite thanks and appreciation, my Friend.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 10:17 PM
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7. the CIA always protects its own in a variety of ways
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 11:51 PM
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13. Oh So Socialistic!
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bluesmail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 03:23 PM
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20. Sorry, Dupe.
Edited on Mon Dec-13-10 03:36 PM by bluesmail
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bluesmail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 03:34 PM
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21. Heil, ze Paper Clip.
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tuckessee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 10:51 PM
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8. They did much the same thing with Belarussians as well.
Some of them were the most despicable mass murderers WW2 produced. Many worked with the Einsatzgruppen.

There was a book about written about it in the 1980's. I believe the title was Belarus Connection

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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 11:39 PM
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11. I'm reading Simon Wiesenthal's biography and it is incredible how little
was done to catch war criminals after the war. It seemed to become a universal hunt only after 1960. I never knew that. Even Israel seemed to have bigger fish to fry that nazi war criminals in the 1950s. Good book by the way. By Tom Segev.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 11:49 PM
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12. Kinda makes you wonder who really won WWII doesn't it?
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jotsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 12:21 AM
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14. Your work is a historical museum.
Every link another treasure in tidbits of treason.

So we made moles of the monsters, and used them to feed the mic during the whole eagle vs bear era I grew up in. M'kay then.

That's one thing about the BFEE, no matter how much gets exposed, you know there's always gonna be more.

Recommended.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 12:27 AM
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16. I'm into tid-bit treason, lets do it for America and the CIA
:sarcasm:
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OnyxCollie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 12:22 AM
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15. K&R.
Bookmarked.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 04:21 PM
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22. This somewhat old news. The CIA didn't just protect Nazis,
They elevated some of them to high posts within the US government.

Virtually all of our Cold War intelligence about the Soviet Union came through one man, General Reinhardt Gehlen. He was head of the Nazi intelligence operation for all of Eastern Europe. Knowing that he would be shot if he fell into Soviet hands, he took all of his notes and information and parlayed it into a deal with the US.

Since the US didn't have an intelligence operation in Eastern Europe, the CIA simply employed Gehlen and his operation, which included Ukrainian nationalists and fascists, including Lebed. The Gehlen organization, motivated in part by traditional fascist hatred of everything Communist, proceeded to feed the US overblown information for decades, even after the US knew he was lying. But it was his information, things like how the Soviet Union had hundreds of missiles instead of a few dozen, that fed the arms race which enabled and enriched the military industrial complex.

There is a reason why our country, our government, has a distinct thread of fascism running through it. That is because many in high power embraced fascism and made it part of the fabric of our government and society.
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