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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-03-10 11:31 PM
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In 6 months will Brown and Obama be best buds. I think so.
What say you?
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-03-10 11:34 PM
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1. I hadn't given it a thought. Why do you think they'll become pals? nt
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-03-10 11:36 PM
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3. Age, temperment, mutual respect, and Brown wants his job. n/t
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 01:13 AM
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11. Well then, maybe. nt
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-03-10 11:34 PM
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2. Brown will try since he is up for re-election same day Obama will be
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-03-10 11:39 PM
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5. Sets up for a rematch huh? NT
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-03-10 11:38 PM
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4. Yep .... I think he'll be a lot more centrist/eager to work with the Dems than we expected...
.... of course, that may be wishful thinking on my part. Not only would that HELP our agenda, but it just makes for good TV. :)

But practically everything he's said post-election has been WAY to the left of the GOP status quo. Of course, the party bosses may get a'hold of him and he may change .... but IF the Dems begin to make a come back and IF he's faced with a strong primary threat in 2012, I can even see him switching parties.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-03-10 11:47 PM
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7. If he stays moderate, it would be hard to primary him
MA has open primaries and the independents can vote in either. The independents are 50% of the vote and Republicans under 20% (if I remember correctly from last month.)

(That's bad for us kicking him out, but if he wants to stay Senator that might be the path.)
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-03-10 11:44 PM
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6. Second ridiculous post today
Is this because they both play basketball?
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-03-10 11:57 PM
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8. I don't know if he into hoops or not. He is a man in a hurry and hoops may be a waste of time.n/t
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 08:50 AM
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15. He wasn't in a hurry to get seated -
Kerry and Reid spoke of seating him quickly - he returned to MA to be on TV and have various victory parties for 3 weeks - even getting criticized by the far right, obnoxious Howie Carr for it. http://www.bostonherald.com/news/columnists/view/20100204finally_mr_brown_goes_to_washington/

In words that he would usually use to attack far better Democratic Senators, he is already saying of Brown:

I don’t know what finally made Scott get on the stick. Was it the grumbling from his voters, or the column someone wrote in this paper yesterday? (Hint: the writers initials are HC.) Or was it that last tavern photo-op in Southie Tuesday night?

I suspect it was the fatal glass of beer in Ward 6. During the campaign, when Scott was asked about bringing back “the draft,” this wasn’t what people meant. A three-week victory lap is one thing, lapping up Bud Light is another altogether.

There were also reports yesterday that Scott had wanted to hang around long enough to make a farewell address today on the floor of the state Senate. That would have been the start of yet another new tradition.

<snip>
But now it’s done. Scott will be sworn in today. Whether he wants to or not, Captain Kirk now must say, “Beam me up, Scottie.”
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/columnists/view/20100204finally_mr_brown_goes_to_washington/

The honeymoon is already testy. (I saw this yesterday, before he updated it and now wish I had posted one comment over in DU JK - he had a (well deserved) comment calling speaking of Brown's "liveshots" and 3 week victory round. "Liveshot" was an attack Carr has used against the hard working Senior Senator.
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 08:57 AM
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16. Sounds like you think Brown has a beer problem that is all That made sense. n/t
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 09:08 AM
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19. NO - I think he has a "seriousness" problem
I certainly do not think that Carr was saying he was a drunk, he was calling for him to get to work.

The point is that the Democrats in the Senate were willing to seat him. He was the one who picked the Feb 11 - even though that was beyond the 15 days in MA and Kerry said that Reid was willing to seat him when Brown visited DC and this video was made. http://www.necn.com/Boston/Politics/2010/01/21/Brown-meets-with-Kerry-on/1264090686.html

He's also apologizing for saying he had never spoken to Palin - when they had spoken.
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 09:16 AM
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20. That's why I think he'll be best buds with the POTUS, he doesn't sweat the small stuff. n/t
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 09:22 AM
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22. Your insults to President Obama are asinine
I do think the President will reach out to him on votes, as he has to Snowe and Collins, but "best buds" is pretty unlikely. Whether you admit it or not, the President is a a thoughtful, serious man trying to leading this country out of the worst economic situation since the depression and out of two wars.

Get over it, Hillary Clinton did not get the nomination and 2008 is over.
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 09:36 AM
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24. You have anger issues and I did not insult the President. My ignore list grows.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 09:54 AM
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27. No, I simply refuse to ignore a statement that so diminishes the president
As to anger issues, I have no one on ignore - you seem to be admitting you have a populated list that is growing.
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 12:00 AM
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9. Curious what was first. n/t
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 08:24 AM
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12. Here it is: - your "feeling" that Kerry will be resigning soon
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=7636136&mesg_id=7636279

Completely ignoring that he is incredibly engaged in his job, in good health other than recuperating from a hip replacement and with nothing that could force him to resign - if your inference was Secretary of State, Hillary did not say that she was stepping down soon - just that she might not do this for two terms.
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 08:33 AM
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13. Welcome to my stalker list, he'll lose if he runs and it will be health problems, not his. n/t
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 09:02 AM
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17. To say I am your "stalker" because I read a thread on Senator Kerry is pretty insane
Edited on Thu Feb-04-10 09:09 AM by karynnj
I am pretty clearly identified as a Kerry supporter, with a Kerry avatar and a Kerry quote as a signature.

Teresa's doctors give her a 95% chance of recovery from Stage ONE breast cancer.

As to losing, he was just re-elected with two thirds of the vote. Even the RW Boston Herald endorsed him and pretty much begged him to not leave to join the cabinet. In contrast, Scott Brown got 52% of the vote against a very poor candidate, who not only didn't campaign much, but talked about not wanting to shake hands in the cold. Kerry actually campaigned MORE in MA last year in the general election than she did - even though he was a well liked 4 term incumbent. Not to mention, Coakley's comment on Afghanistan was completely wrong and she would have known that had she watched even one of Kerry's 5 Afghanistan hearings.

You seriously need to get over your anger that Kerry endorsed Obama.

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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 09:21 AM
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21. You project too much. I have no anger for Kerry. I just feel he is done with politics and will leave
soon.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 09:47 AM
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26. So,
Edited on Thu Feb-04-10 09:57 AM by karynnj
Explain why 9 days after major surgery, he spoke to Bostonian Haitians? Given the surgery, he could have let Patrick alone represent the government and no one would have criticized him, but he was there and, even in their despair, they gave him a round of applause for speaking to them in French - http://thephoenix.com/BLOGS/phlog/archive/2010/01/14/john-le-kerry-addresses-boston-area-haitian-americans-in-french.aspx

Explain why he was all over the state this last weekend? http://bluemassgroup.com/diary/18750/let-us-talk-about-jobscongresswoman-tsongas-and-senator-kerry (video from blue Mass)

Explain why there were so many stories of how Kerry has become a very powerful Senator.

Explain why he looks so in his element chairing the SFRC - and getting praise for the outstanding job he has been doing there.

As to anger, it sure seems that way from the posts I remember. But, seeing that there is a search function, I looked, because after all you said I was a stalker (for having seen a JK thread - no reason I would read a JK thread other than to see if you were there)

How did some of your 2007 predictions go?

the GOP ticket would be Mitt/Cheney

Supreme Court Justice Roberts would run (!) and it would be him or Jeb Bush

It would be Pataki, Guiliani was a stalking horse for him.

Cheney would be President when Bush pardons Cheney and then resigns himself - and then HRC will win in 2008

The Democratic ticket would be HRC/Sebelius

Not to mention the thread that the next POTUS would be a woman - It may be Lynne Cheney or Melinda Gates or hopefully Hillary

Or these predictions for the final race - Hillary match Lynne Cheney, Obama match Powell, Edwards match John Roberts.

Those all found in 5 minutes - the maximum time I am willing to spend. From your track record, Kerry is incredibly safe.




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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 10:40 AM
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32. Just the Twitter generation. They think they need to air all their thoughts for the world to know.
Edited on Thu Feb-04-10 10:41 AM by Mass
Ignore is your best friend in cases like that. You will miss nothing.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 10:46 AM
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33. exactly
but in this case, he is so absurd that pointing it out can be fun.
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LeftyAndProud60 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 12:02 AM
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10. The guy is a nut. He thinks he can be pro choice and not rule out the presidency on the GOP's ticket
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 08:49 AM
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14. For the cameras..
while the knife will be behind Brown's back,as it is with the Repubs and many of the Dems.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 09:02 AM
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18. After Brown has his meeting with Limbaugh, he will be just like the rest of the republicans. nt
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 09:29 AM
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23. I'm not sure about that. Brown strikes me as a game changer. One of those
people who always seem to be ahead of the curve without having a clue why they are.

You know the lazy guy looking for a short cut and stumbles on the best and inventive new way to do something.

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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 10:02 AM
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28. I'll add that to your list of predictions made in GD in 2007
Edited on Thu Feb-04-10 10:47 AM by karynnj
How did some of your 2007 predictions go?

the GOP ticket would be Mitt/Cheney

Supreme Court Justice Roberts would run (!) and it would be him or Jeb Bush

It would be Pataki, Guiliani was a stalking horse for him.

Cheney would be President when Bush pardons Cheney and then resigns himself - and then HRC will win in 2008

The Democratic ticket would be HRC/Sebelius

Not to mention the thread that the next POTUS would be a woman - It may be Lynne Cheney or Melinda Gates or hopefully Hillary

Or these predictions for the final race - Hillary match Lynne Cheney, Obama match Powell, Edwards match John Roberts.



Who knows you may some day stumble on one that comes true? After all, it is said that even a blind squirrel finds an acorn.

Here, there is a fundamental problem - he is Mitt Romney on speed - simultaneously a tea party favorite and a moderate/liberal on the social issues.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 09:42 AM
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25. I don't know about that, but if Brown wants to be re-elected in a presidential election year
he can't be a hard line conservative and he, in fact, he probably has to stake out some liberal positions and take on his own party.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 10:09 AM
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29. You also thought Michelle Obama was pregnant.
Hang up the crystal ball already
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 01:09 PM
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38. yeah, this one I remember
It raised my eyebrows, I'll tell you.
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fadedrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 10:30 AM
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30. Obama would be best buds with anyone who wanted to be....nt
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 10:36 AM
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31. Thanks for your opinion, but why do you think it is worth an OP.
Particularly with so little substance in it. Did Scott Brown's vacuousness impress you so much you want to emulate him?
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 11:45 AM
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34. I say this is a stupid post. nt
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 12:33 PM
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35. In 6 months will CK_John and crow be best buds? I don't think so.
Because CK_John will be eating it.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 12:48 PM
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36. It is likely he should be eating it, but he will likely be onto other predictions
I didn't see any crow eaten over these strange 2007 predictions. (Only the HRC/Sebelius one had even the slightest potential as it is far more likely HRC would have taen Obama as VP.)

the GOP ticket would be Mitt/Cheney

Supreme Court Justice Roberts would run (!) and it would be him or Jeb Bush

It would be Pataki, Guiliani was a stalking horse for him.

Cheney would be President when Bush pardons Cheney and then resigns himself - and then HRC will win in 2008

The Democratic ticket would be HRC/Sebelius

Not to mention the thread that the next POTUS would be a woman - It may be Lynne Cheney or Melinda Gates or hopefully Hillary

Or these predictions for the final race - Hillary match Lynne Cheney, Obama match Powell, Edwards match John Roberts.
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 02:53 PM
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43. He had Newt Gingrich pegged as the GOP candidate too.
And I remember the Roberts one. :crazy:
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 03:44 PM
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46. That one was classic
There are soo many Supreme Court Justices who step down to run for political office. Especially stealth Supreme Court Justices, who hid most of who they were in hearings and who were heading a supreme court that they had tilted in their direction. Look at what he just did with camppaign financing - why with the power he has would he want to be President.

Not to mention Lynne Cheney??? Who never had an elected position and was married to someone with 19% approval??
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 04:59 PM
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51. The only one I can think of is John Jay. He was Chief Justice and then got
elected governor of New York. And that was over 200 years ago. And I believe Goldberg resigned to be the UN Ambassador.

Anyway, Roberts is not resigning, much less running for President. Both of those justices were politicians before they were appointed to SCOTUS.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 01:08 PM
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37. No, they won't.
I wouldn't imagine Obama has any respect for a guy who got himself elected because he drives a shitty truck.
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Lord Helmet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 01:09 PM
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39. That's a ridiculous statement.
I suspect you already know that.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 01:58 PM
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41. That's the OP's Shtick
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 01:24 PM
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40. I might be ignorant but I can't grasp why anyone thinks this clown is
much different than the run of the mill puke other than being pro-choice. This guy ran as pro-torture and seemingly a standard Confederate finacial platform.

He might be reachable on a handful of basic and fairly settled civil rights issues but generally he is a Republican and a junior Republican at that. He'll be no more use than Snowe or Collins which means above zero but not by much.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 02:11 PM
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42. LOL
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 02:54 PM
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44. By the way, CK_John, who will be the GOP's 2012 candidate?
Liz Cheney?
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 03:10 PM
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45. More interesting is who will be our candidate, as I've posted Obama may not run.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 03:48 PM
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47. I guess anything to make you think that Hillary would get another chance
Obama is almost certain to run.
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 04:16 PM
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49. The chance of Obama not running is so infinitesimally small it's not worth considering.
What if Biden doesn't run or is dropped in favor of Hillary as VP for the 2nd term? That's highly doubtful but it's the only change to the ticket that's even remotely likely.
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 04:16 PM
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50. delete..
Edited on Thu Feb-04-10 04:17 PM by NYC Liberal
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 03:53 PM
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48. I say this is a pretty dumb OP.
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