Idaho first to sign law against health care reform

[babylonsister]

Anyone from Idaho here, and are you being well represented?


Idaho first to sign law against health care reform
AP

By JOHN MILLER, Associated Press Writer


BOISE, Idaho – Idaho took the lead in a growing, nationwide fight against health care reform Wednesday when its governor became the first to sign a measure requiring the state attorney general to sue the federal government if residents are forced to buy health insurance.

Similar legislation is pending in 37 other states.

Constitutional law experts say the movement is mostly symbolic because federal laws supersede those of the states.

But the state measures reflect a growing frustration with President President Barack Obama's health care overhaul. The proposal would cover some 30 million uninsured people, end insurance practices such as denying coverage to those with pre-existing conditions, require almost all Americans to get coverage by law, and try to slow the cost of medical care nationwide.

Democratic leaders hope to vote on it this weekend.

With Washington closing in on a deal in the months-long battle over health care overhaul, Republican state lawmakers opposed to the measure are stepping up opposition.

more...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100317/ap_on_go_co/us_health_overhaul_states

[LiberalFighter]

1. Every person hat opts out should have their premiums increased 100%

[global1]

2. Oh Yeah - That Makes Sense - Lets Spend Money Litigating This Ad Infinitum.......

money that could be used to help and save people - if they were covered by health insurance.

I'm getting so disgusted with this country - it's not even funny.

[POAS]

3. Their Corporate Overlords will not be pleased.

IF this were to succeed the Overlords would lose a new revenue source while still getting the regulations they hate and would be forced to insure sick people (Oh the humanity)!

[girl gone mad]

4. Good for Idaho.

[DCBob]

5. This is a GOP led effort...

in case you did not realize.

[Cha]

6. Because the gop are selfish assholes who

only think of themselves.

[girl gone mad]

21. The majority of Democrats oppose the mandates, too..

in case you did not realize.

[Drunken Irishman]

27. Most Democrats support Pres. Obama's healthcare bill.

In case you did not realize.

Fool.

[DCBob]

33. Not only are you mad you are clueless as well..

Most "real" Democrats are on board now supporting this bill.

[Drunken Irishman]

26. Many on DU have sided with the GOP on the healthcare fight.

They're the true DINOs. :eyes:

[vaberella]

35. Exactly. n/t

[ChimpersMcSmirkers]

41. The purist don't care anymore if they ride RW talking points.

Their credibility on just about everything right now is somewhere around zero kelvin.

[HughMoran]

44. Of course you hate filled anti-Democrat

Burn in hell

[NavyMom]

7. Did they include an automatic raise in taxes in Idaho when the medicare costs increase.

If you are not part of the health care reform (mandate) then your STATE has to pay for uninsured and CANNOT shift from one say education to medicaid then try to get money for more education.

[depakid]

8. And they can now pay their premiums in silver, too!

The NY Times did a profile on these nutter states yesterday.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/17/us/17states.html

[BeyondGeography]

9. So fucking backwards

Something as basic as health care is better if it comes in 50 different flavors? The vanity of the state's rights crowd and the stupidity it produces.

[jwirr]

10. What would have happened if states had done this to Social Security

or Medicaid/Medicare? You cannot bring savings if everyone is not in.

[damonm]

11. Can we kick a state OUT of the Union?

[davidpdx]

47. +1 No shit!

I say we just tell them no health care funding for you at all. Let'em die.

[ProSense]

12. It doesn't matter.

The plan will supersede state law if a state tries to deny its residence access to health care.

State-based exchanges. States would have to pass a law establishing the exchange and would be responsible for running it. If a state fails to establish an exchange by January 2014, the federal government could build it.

link

[harkadog]

13. Your link goes to commentary not to the proposed law.

And the commentary does not relate to your boxed text.

[Ter]

14. I smell a revolution in the air

This is dangerous, could mass succession be next?

[vadawg]

15. no idea, but i suppose you could if you pushed the states too far

will be interesting to watch, as everyone has connections to their state, i for one think of myself as a virginian first due to my living here, and my kids being born here. My wife is a south carolinian first. :shrug:

[babylonsister]

16. Nah, I think the rethugs are just flapping their gums. From the OP...

Constitutional law experts say the movement is mostly symbolic because federal laws supersede those of the states.

[awoke_in_2003]

19. Yay, secession worked out

so well the last time :sarcasm:

[Ter]

24. One key difference:

Lincoln used force. That would never in a million years happen in 2010. If a state (or states) succeed now, now way the Union fires a shot. Americans killing Americans would never fly again. In all honesty, I don't know how it did last time either.

[KingFlorez]

22. I smell something all right

Secession isn't really an option for them, the details are too much for them to handle. Starting a new country in this economic market is not smart.

[Monk06]

25. Didn't you get the Woodstock Memo? LAY OFF THE BROWN ACID !!!

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

17. I can resolve this right now....

Any state that sues, so long as there is a case pending, may not receive any funding from the United States government, as any ongoing financial relationship could create a conflict of interest. So Idaho, the moment you file a lawsuit, the fedaral spigot turns off.

You want interstate highways? Pay for them yourself. All that federal research funding that comes to your universities? Past tense, shuts off automatically.

You want to play hardball? Fine.

[vadawg]

23. good as long as the people in the state dont have to pay fed taxes

either, i got no problem with this if the feds want to run roughshod over the states...

[Drunken Irishman]

28. How confederate of you.

[vadawg]

30. yeah thats right because believing in devolved government makes you a confederate

i guess you think that that feds should have the final say in everything....

[Drunken Irishman]

31. No. But I believe in a UNITED States.

[vadawg]

32. united by choice or force, is it really worth keeping if the feds have absolute power

you may have a different opinion than me, but i support the right of the people to govern themselves and for the states to govern also, im not sure where in the constitution it gives the feds the rights to rule the roost but even if it did would it be a good idea...

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

34. No problem....

Like most red states, Idaho gets back more in federal aid than it takes in.

[vadawg]

37. and you think its only red states who are going to do this,

wait and see how many states are going to fight this... and how many people of all political stripes are going to come together if the feds start to force people to buy coverage..

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

38. Next thing you know, blacks will be able to drink out of our water fountains!

You're a little transparant there, Bubba.

[vadawg]

40. yeah because that is what rights assigned to the individual and the states is always about, right

jeez the leaps some people make when they wear their blinders is surreal sometimes...

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

45. Sure thing, Cooter. See you at the cross-burnin' (nt)

[BlueIdaho]

18. Now just a Goddamn Minute!

These are MY dumb shit idiotic Idaho legislators from THE most insanely republican state in the union. A state that's famous for being the home of the Aryan Nations, countless paramilitary right wing militias, skin heads, and the state noted for the highest number of children living in poverty in these United States. To be fair - a state with one Democratic congressman - Walt Turncoat Minnick famous for being a proud member of the Nixon administration.

Right now the Idaho legislators are not only trying to fend off health care - they have recently passed a bill allowing folks to pay for things using a state currency based on silver coins mined in Idaho. A state Legislature that is also busy passing a law legalizing the sale of guns made in Idaho without all those pesky checks on the buyer's criminal record, sanity, or desire to gun down school children or elected state officials.

Famous potatoes? Fuck that - I'm trying to get the motto on the license plate change to "Idaho - Land of Lunatics."

[vaberella]

36. ...

:rofl:

[Drunken Irishman]

39. Utah & Idaho...God help us.

Salt Lake here. :( :) :/

[Jennicut]

42. I had no idea, I just knew you had really great potatoes. I am sorry.

If you ever want to move to the Northeast, Connecticut is quite welcoming but a bit congested. You have to deal with massive amounts of traffic and higher prices but the people are quite normal and level headed here.

[davidpdx]

48. Land of Lunatics indeed

+1

[jillan]

20. I'm sure Arizona will be next. They don't give a crap about the people of this state.

[grantcart]

29. kick

[WCGreen]

43. Does that mean more health care for the rest of us....

[Peacetrain]

46. You know what this reminds me of.. the states who did not want stimulus money ~cough~

What can you do with people determined to cut off their noses to spite their face?