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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 01:26 PM
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WTF!!! is this with Huffington on the dems struggle
there's more of a struggle with in the rethugs than the dem party.Look at the tea(KKK)party http://www.huffingtonpost.com/
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 01:33 PM
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1. What a rag that rag has become...
Worse than supermarket tabloids... wish I hadn't clicked the link... not your fault, though:)

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DrToast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 01:39 PM
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2. Why don't you read it?
It's a good article.
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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 02:37 PM
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7. It was. One quibble however: Emanuel's seat was not in Virginia.

It seems like every seat vacated by a Democrat for a position in the administration has been called Emanuel's at one time or another.

And while I'd love to blame some other district for his presence, he was our New Democrat piece of shit from a staunchly Blue district in Chicago where a radical, liberal extremist could easily win if they had the party backing. So there was never any excuse for electing Rahm except that he was Daley's man, and Mayor Daley is "only nominally a Democrat" to quote the late Bob Novak who knew a fellow ideologue when he saw one.


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mochajava666 Donating Member (771 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 01:41 PM
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3. I read HuffPo all of the time, and they have mentioned the
Republicans' struggles within their party.

It seems to me that the article just illustrated the divide among the Dems between the liberal base, and the economic and social conservatives from the DLC that have picked up seats in conservative districts in the last 2 blow-out elections.

That divide permeates most of the heated discussions in DU, so it's no surprise that it exists on many organizational levels. We saw a lot of that in the health care debate in both houses.
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DrToast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 01:43 PM
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4. Exactly. It's no different than what goes on here.*
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asphalt.jungle Donating Member (792 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 02:29 PM
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5. it's actually a good piece
I'm pragmatic and believe in taking your victories where you can get them, but progressives shouldn't be funding blue dogs who are going to end up trying to derail their objectives. I find the story of the Florida progressive that got 43% of the vote against the republican especially galling. the republican who won retires and instead of supporting the guy who got 43% of the vote, they back a new blue dog who is running against the democratic platform.

Anyway, back to being pragmatic and all that, this quote from Congressman Grijalva nails how I feel about the whole political process:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/08/power-struggle-inside-the_n_529884.html?page=8

Like the resident of the White House, Grijalva began as a community organizer, the type of experience that teaches much about how power operates and the art of a specific kind of compromise. "I'm very proud of being a progressive, but I'm also a pragmatist," Grijalva says. "I understand that you take your victory and you build on it. And I think sometimes we on the left tend to think an issue to death as opposed to do an issue. We learned that through the civil rights movement, the farm workers movement, how you get this contract and you work on it. Community organizing, OK, you get the street lights in the neighborhood, then you move to the bigger things: the schools, no health services. But you give everybody a taste of what a victory feels like, and then you get much more help after that."'
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 02:34 PM
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6. Great post.
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asphalt.jungle Donating Member (792 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 03:02 PM
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8. i'm not a political news junkie so i didn't know this:
"The public option died so that Rick Boucher could vote no. Progressives inside and outside of Congress have no intention of letting that happen again."

they had the votes, they just didn't want to force some blue dogs to make hard choices.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/08/power-struggle-inside-the_n_529884.html?page=9

i give the article a thumbs up.
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 10:09 PM
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9. excellent post n/t
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