Poll: Most Americans are morons and we are SCREWED in November

[geek tragedy]

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/07/shocking-poll-55-percent-of-voters-think-obamas-a-socialist.php?ref=fpa

Have months of Fox News hyperventilating and right-wing fear mongering over our supposed socialist-in-chief finally paid off? A majority of voters now think President Barack Obama is a socialist, at least according to one new poll.

The poll (PDF) from Democracy Corps finds that 55 percent of likely voters believe that the word "socialist" describes the president either "well" or "very well."

If a nation gets the leaders it deserves, the United States will get John Boehner as Speaker.

[T Wolf]

1. Add the morons to those who have lost hope that this admin and Congress will

do good things and you have a slaughter on the horizon.

At this point, I am almost beyond giving a shit. Problem is - the pols (at both ends of Pennsylvania Avenue) don't care. They have theirs and that is all that matters to them.

[geek tragedy]

2. Honestly, Americans deserve Republicans and Republican policies.

Every person for themselves.

[Lost4words]

3. this tends to happen when you abandon your base, no surprize!

what the hell did this admin expect, to convert pukes????????????????????????????????????????????

heck of a job Rahm!

[geek tragedy]

4. The base didn't start thinking of him as socialist

during his first two years.

It's the god awful, stupid, moronic independent 'centrists' who decide most elections in this country.

[Lost4words]

7. thats a YUP! nt

[boston bean]

19. When things aren't going good for them they try the other team.

it's as simple as that.

This admin and congress has not done a good job of helping ordinary americans.

Plain and simple. And the people don't know or care about the labels, or the policy. They care about the result. the results are not there.

If they had seen a change in their life, they wouldn't have been able to tell you why and they wouldn't have cared what label was slapped on it.


They go with the other team, and give them a chance. That is their only choice.

[geek tragedy]

21. Do people remember how bad things were in late 2008?

Things ain't great right now, but we were headed in a very, very, very bad direction back then. When you have to clean up a mess, you're going to have dirt on you.

[boston bean]

23. Yes they do, and that is the problem. It hasn't changed for them.

[geek tragedy]

24. The first key to changing directions is to stop going in the wrong

direction. The economy was ready to collapse completely.

[Po_d Mainiac]

47. Exactly

I don't want the repukes again....But the man I put time and energy behind ain't doing for me/Country either.

Mr President....Please grow a pair! Do as "you" said, not as "they" do

[Lost4words]

5. code broken, major BINGO

The pres is at the top of his game, he isnt feeling the suffering going on, his life is going pretty well. Same with his admin.

[madmax]

6. As in any election it's the ground work

that will determine the outcome. imo :P

If DU is any indication of Dem enthusiasm we're fucked.

[Lost4words]

9. If what we are seeing is CHANGE, we are indeed fucked!

what could have caused this?

[madmax]

13. I'm not happy either

I want more, we all wanted me. I just don't see an alternative and if this is one situation were the lesser of two evils makes sense to me, it's this one.

Who, what, or how do you suggest to get that change within the next 4 - 8 years. Other than a national revolution I don't know.

:hi:

[Lost4words]

17. I understand your position and frustration. I have spent my life with lesser evils

and I am so totally sick of it. MM, I dont have a solution, nadda, except civil rights didnt change in this country until cities burned. The future is yours, I might see 2 maybe 3 more presidents, I am giving up on the voting thing, it was never fixed anyway.

So Good luck to you and our country, I am all hoped out. Money trumps God these days.

MM, thanks for the question, I hope you have a good day.

:hi:

[madmax]

37. Remember that - I was in Newark NJ

Girlfriend got cracked in the skull with a baton. I was lucky - only a broken finger. Burn baby, burn in Watts.

I don't see that happening today. No one is pissed off enough. Too busy with Facebook, twitter, Xbox and all that shit to get out and take a stand.

Last 2 protests during the bush administration I attended was a protest against Scalia and the USSC at Princeton U, mild street thearte - singing. Another protesting *bush at a Faith Based meeting in Piscataway. Waste of time.

Sometimes I just say screw it. :smoke:

Maybe one more election - there's still 2 years to go. I doubt there will be a great awakining. I'm reaching the point and age that if the generation coming up and the under 30's don't care - piss on it. There's more sand at the bottom of my hour glass than at the top. Call me selfish but, I'm going to chill and try to enjoy something that's left to this life.

[ProSense]

8. The results don't make sense.

Who the hell did they poll?

Make up of respondents:

Strong Democrat.............................23
Weak Democrat...............................12
Independent-lean Democrat...............12
Independent.....................................6
Independent-lean Republican.............15
Weak Republican.............................12
Strong Republican...........................19


For 55 percent of respondents to believe that the word "socialist" describes the President well, every Republican, some Independents and Democrats would have to believe that is true. Absurd.

Is it the poll or the people?

[geek tragedy]

12. It's a perjorative phrase for someone who's scary and does really scary

things in office.

It's the people--Americans are stupid, and if you call Obama a 'socialist' a thousand times a majority will believe it regardless of the truth.

The Big Lie.

[ProSense]

22. Still, every Republican and some from the other groups?

If that's the case, then they're actually gaming this poll.

[Whisp]

29. you are right.

you are right. Americans are stupid.

but what hurts me most? that some democrats are drinking that same stupid the pugs do and agreeing more with the Boehners and the others when they stomp their little hooves that things areb't going fast enough in the improvement department according to their own personal time frames.

:puke:

[ihavenobias]

33. True.

It's almost as if we need a way to reframe the debate and make Americans realize how far to the right Washington has moved. In today's context being just right of center makes you a far left radical compared to the Republicans who fell off the cliff.

Oh well, someday someone in the media will catch on and hammer this point in an easy to understand way. Until then we'll have the nonsense cries of socialism/communism/marxist spreading past the insane base of Fox and right wing radio (because obviously those nuts will always exist).

[Pirate Smile]

36. Isn't it 55% of "likely" voters? What is their "likely" voters screen?

[Dawgs]

10. What % actually know what socialist means? I would love to see them get asked.

:hi:

[alsame]

20. That's the real question, IMO. "Socialist" and "Democrat" have

become interchangeable terms for the right wing, especially the teabaggers. Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Frank - all Socialists, lol.

[COLGATE4]

11. The marvellous H.L. Mencken said it best, a long time ago -

Nobody ever went broke overestimating the stupidity of the American public".

Nothing's changed since then.

[TheKentuckian]

14. Hence, he is being foolish. If this is the perception then he ought to really give em

something to cry about.

The more he tries to move right the more the grossly misapplied label sticks and the more he completely fucks up the whole range of liberal policies.

[geek tragedy]

15. Blue DOgs and Liebercrats are still a problem.

If it's any consolation, though, lots of them will be losing their jobs in November.

[sadbear]

16. Perhaps we should run with the fascist meme next time

When the next republican president is elected, if we keep hammering the fascist meme the way they hammer the socialist meme now, maybe 55% of Americans will believe that, too.

[Lost4words]

18. the DNCC is too lame to have such an Idea. nt

as it makes sence.

[Jennicut]

25. Oh please....only if Greenberg tells us so. I highly doubt the people in that poll were not skewed

to the right.

Please people. I trust Greenberg and Carville about as much as I trust Rasmussen.

[jonnyblitz]

26. Isn't Greenberg married to Rosa DeLauro? nt

[Jennicut]

27. Yes, and she has been a fairly good rep for us in CT. But please dig deep

into what Greenberg and Carville have done in Latin America. They are not a friend of liberals.

[jonnyblitz]

30. oh I agree but i don't see hoiw they differ much from Obama

ideologically.

[Goodnight]

28. How to use the recommend feature on this one...

Do I unrecommend because it's unbelievably stupid, or do I recommend because people need to be aware of said stupidity?

[Aramchek]

31. only a moron would believe that poll is accurate

do 55% of Americans own ObamaHitler signs, too?

[geek tragedy]

35. That doesn't mean that they know what a socialist is, only that

mass propaganda and negative branding works.

[The Hitman]

32. Yeah But

Regardless of what you think of this poll, the fact is that the GOP still continues to out manuever and get their message out much better. You have to realize that 95% of the population does follow GOP obstructionism as closely as we do. If anything, Obama and dem leaders need to be out there constantly bashing the GOP! And the unemployment benefits issue has given so much ammo to do that! Why don't they?

[Dawson Leery]

34. If the majority truely believe this then Americans

never deserved their middle class status. White suburban middle class had no objections to high taxes on the top earners and strong regulations so long as they did not have to share with the minorities. Once the federal government opened the door to minorities/women, the suburbanites turned against the economic policies that made them affluent.

[Phx_Dem]

38. That's nothing new. Sadly, America has been full of morons

for a very long time. An incredible number of people can't even name the "Father of the Country." :blush:

As long as the smart crowd shows up to vote, they'll outnumber the idiots like they always do when they show up.

[whistler162]

39. Only the ones that believe polls!

[DCBob]

40. They should have added another question.. "Is socialism bad?"

I think many Americans are now thinking the "Obama brand" of socialism is good and working for America. Thanks to the teabaggers and idiots at Faux Newz.

[Avalux]

41. 28% of adults don't know who the colonies fought against for independence.

40% can't read beyond a 4th grade level. Short attention spans, lack of comprehension, no regard for facts...

Yeah, we're pretty much screwed.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

42. the simple thing is for the Democratic Party to go after the GOP

there should be war on the GOP

[spoony]

43. Odd how loathing the commoners is such a defining trait

of some. It seems to usually accompany the "you don't deserve him" lines. Coincidence, I'm sure.

[depakid]

44. Up is down, black is white

Australians would just laugh at shit like that- and yet gullible Americans just eat it up, while they fall further and further into decline.

[lynne]

45. People vote with their wallets -

- and the economy needs to significantly improve if there isn't to be a bloodbath come November. The socialism business is just smoke and mirrors. It's the state of the economy that fuels elections.

[LatteLibertine]

46. If we've decided it's already over now

Then it likely will be.

I plan on reminding folks of how the GoP actually govern when in the majority and of the "favors" they did the nation last time around.

Remember depressing party morale will depress voter turn out. That's not doing a Democrat or the party any good.

[Dr.Phool]

48. We're officially a failed state now.

Deal with it.