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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 10:47 AM
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Poll: Nebraska Senate--Nelson in big trouble in '12
Granted it's a GOP poll

Nebraska

Job Approval / Disapproval
Pres. Obama: 30 / 63

Favorable / Unfavorable
Ben Nelson: 32 / 57
Dave Heineman: 67 / 24

2012 Senate
58% Heineman (R), 28% Nelson (D)


http://www.pollster.com/blogs/ne_2012_senate_magellan_712.php
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 10:48 AM
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1. Boo hoo. nt
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dmallind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 10:52 AM
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7. So you trust Heineman to vote 81.2% with Democrats?
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 11:28 AM
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14. Yes, but the 8.8% when Nelson votes for the R's is really problematic.
Edited on Tue Jul-20-10 11:30 AM by flpoljunkie
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 12:37 PM
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16. ...and 88.8+% voting with Republicans is better...how? (nt)
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 12:56 PM
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18. So? A Republican isn't going to give you that 8% either.
I think Nelson is a prima donna asshole, but he's still infinitely better than a Nebraska Republican.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 02:26 PM
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21. On that we agree.
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MyNameGoesHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 03:32 PM
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26. I wish there was a way to punish him for being a shit head 8.8% of the time. n/t
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dmallind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 04:16 PM
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29. Yeah me too - but it's cutting off our nose to spite our face to get 90% the other way. NT
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Hawkowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 01:41 AM
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33. Oh there is
The president simply does not appoint any of Nelson's friends to any political jobs or judge ships. Then the president makes this fact known to everybody in Nebraska making Nelson more toxic than Chernobyl. Then the president holds up or foot drags on every. damn. dime. of federal stimulus and or aid to Nebraska.

That my friend is the political hardball practiced by JFK, FDR, LBJ, and yes, the devil's apprentice, Shrub.

If the president makes an example of just one piss ant senator, from a piss ant state with less people than the city of Houston, you can bet your ass the rest of the party is going to toe. the. fucking. line.

But no, we have Barney the Dinosaur loving on everybody as president. Some senator shows up at the White House and pisses in the president's cornflakes and next thing you know, they pull up a chair for him and serve him steak and eggs.
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SusanaMontana41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 05:18 AM
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36. There is.
We need a progressive to challenge Nelson in the primaries. If his numbers stay that low, someone will step up. I hope it's Scott Kleeb.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 10:49 AM
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2. Can we at least take him out in a primary first?
Just on priciple...
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 10:50 AM
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3. Too bad the Green Party can't organize their way out of a wet tissue-paper bag.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 11:02 AM
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10. who knows Nelson may be challenged in the democratic primary like Lincoln.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 11:05 AM
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11. I wish Labor would put forward a strong Progressive Populist Democrat, but I'd
settle for any strong (and the operative word here IS "strong" as in has grassroots support) Progressive Populist.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 11:15 AM
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12. You know how long it takes to compost a wet tissue-paper bag? n/t
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 10:51 AM
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4. I think the Benator knows it's over. He's just going to keep doing the bidding
of banks, business, and insurance co's to line up a high-paying post-Senate career.
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CanonRay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 10:52 AM
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5. So all of his siding with Rethugs got him what, exactly?
Zip, nada, nothing but scorn.
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dmallind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 10:53 AM
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8. Hagel votes against R more than Nelson votes against D BTW. NT
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 12:13 PM
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15. Simply not true.
has Snowe as the only Republican with a more liberal voting record than Nelson. No Republican in the Senate, save Snowe, is as conservative as any Democrat, including Specter.

And Hagel's not voting at all -- Johans is.
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dmallind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 03:02 PM
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22. Not measuring teh same thing however.
Edited on Tue Jul-20-10 03:03 PM by dmallind
It's not that Hagel was better than Nelson it's that he was more likely to vote against his own party than Nelson in the last Congress

Check the link in my first post upthread for data - which simply IS true whether you understood it or not.

http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/110/senate/party-voters/
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 11:21 AM
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13. Zactly!
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 12:39 PM
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17. It got him 8 years as Governor and 12 years as Senator.
So... yeah... nothing, right?
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 10:52 AM
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6. I wonder if he really cares
He would make a lot more money in the private sector, he's been serving the corporations anyway so I'm sure they will reward him nicely.
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 10:56 AM
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9. Two years is a long way off
The right-wing really ought to stop trying to count chickens that are nowhere near hatching. I'm not going to worry about this one yet.
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Mr. Sparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 01:00 PM
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19. If you act like a republican...
you should expect to get replaced by a one. Nelson has no Democratic base to come out for him, so essentially he is screwed.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 01:31 PM
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20. What did he expect after the way he acted on HCR?
We replace him with a better candidate in the primary.
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dmallind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 03:04 PM
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23. But everybody is responding as if this means a better option. It doesn't.
It measn instead of a guy who turns against Dems 18.8% of the time, we will get a Reop who votes against Dems 90% of the time. This is Nelson losing to a Rep, not another Dem.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 03:32 PM
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25. But his assholery was through the roof. Even Nebraskans thought his holding up the process...
until their state got exemption from having to pay for medicare/medicaid was over the top. He didn't look moderate pulling that shit, he looked like a goddamned sleaze. And now his chickens are coming home to roost. We need a new candidate in 2012 and there is plenty of time to find one.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 03:06 PM
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24. And I should care about Ben Nelson because...
Blue Dogs should be euthanized!
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dmallind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 04:15 PM
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28. ...because you'll never get a Rep to vote with Dems 80%+ like he did?
Or do you somehow think we could get Feingold or Frank elected in a statewide NE election?
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 03:46 PM
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27. I'm out here in NE, and I worked very hard to get Nelson re-elected...
Edited on Tue Jul-20-10 03:46 PM by rasputin1952
I am ashamed that I worked as hard as I did, (caveat, his opponent was a real slug).

I have fired off so many e-mails and snailmails I figure he thinks he's invited to Thanksgiving Dinner this year; no way!

He told us that would be his last run for the office...I think he's right, NO ONE likes him now. D's are seriously pissed off, we see him as a shitweasel.

Now, I'll send him another note...just to piss him off...:evilgrin:
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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 05:25 AM
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37. I ought to do this same thing with my Republican Congressman
I applaud you for being persistent.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 04:33 PM
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30. Nelson desperately needs to be primaried...
Hell right now, my own senator, Michael Bennet's being primaried. Amazing how it focuses their minds! :evilgrin: All of the sudden, Michael Bennet supported the public option, Blanche Lincoln supported tough derivatives language in the Wall Street reform bill, and even Arlen fucking Specter impersonates a progressive - when they get primaried.

Nelson's desperately asking for it. He needs a primary challenge.
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southernyankeebelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 04:56 PM
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31. Who cares this man is a republican lite. In my district we have one also and
we have early voting and my husband left it blank and I typed in Mickey Mouse. I made sure to call his office in DC and left my name and let them know I voted for Mickey because I think he could do a better job then what is there now. I also informed her I didn't vote for him because he voted no for the healthcare. I told her to make sure she tells him what I said and my name. Besides that he is going to lose.
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BlueMTexpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 05:31 PM
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32. And that was BEFORE his "No" vote on unemployment.
It's unlikely that he would ever have gotten votes from the Rethugs, but if there's any justice, he's even lost the Dems now.
Hopefully, NE will come in out of the cold and elect a Democrat who acts like one. Surely there is someone.
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 02:42 AM
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34. It's still 2 years off so I don't think anyone should seriously start
planning on getting his office space or his committee seats

What I find most interesting about the poll is, he used to have the highest favorables among all US Senators within their home state.

For the last year his approval rating has just bled

His supporters will blame the Administration, his detractors will blame him
Maybe people in Nebraska are just tired of him

We'll see what happens come election time
6 months ago Harry Reid seemed finished and all the discussion revolved around Shumer or Durbin
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:08 AM
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35. Ah, that's a shame. nt
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