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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 05:12 PM
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Conway sounds a damn blue dog look at this clip what he said about the tax cuts
Edited on Sun Oct-03-10 05:16 PM by bigdarryl
Trying to be a rethug that won't get him nowhere. We don't need any more of these BLUE DOGS in the party thats why Obama can't get shit done http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/03/rand-paul-jack-conway-bush-tax-cuts-fox-news_n_748350.html
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 05:15 PM
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1. If that what it takes to get him elected in West Virginia and to avoid Ran Paul at all costs...
Then he may need to sound that way, whether he truly believes it or not.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 05:21 PM
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4. pssst it is Kentucky.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 07:37 PM
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15. That's what I meant. Sorry! Long night. n/t
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 05:16 PM
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2. Instead...
He could have said, "We can't afford the tax cuts. They have already put us $4 trillion deeper in debt in the last decade. We need to give the middle-class some tax relief but we cannot afford more taxcuts for millionaires and billionaires."

That would have sold better in Kentucky.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 06:07 PM
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10. If Conway knew what the hell he was talking about
it should be a piece of cake to explain the tax cuts.

I like this video White Board
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Kdillard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 05:18 PM
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3. I know but he is running against Rand Paul who so far is
beating him and I really don't think we can expect a liberal if the people in that state are seriously considering electing Rand Paul.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 05:24 PM
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5. We are talking about who is going to take Bunning's Senate seat. I'll take a blue dog instead of
Paul.

He sounded really good on Hardball the other night but, I guess, this topic didn't come up.

Even a Blue Dog D is better then a Republican - especially in a very red state.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 05:30 PM
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6. He's not a Blue Dog.
He's a Democrat. Big difference.
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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 05:31 PM
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32. He IS a blue dog.
He's Kentucky's version of Evan Bayh.
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 08:23 PM
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36. Safe to say, then, that you obviously know jack shit about this race
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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 09:55 PM
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40. Sez you.
He's a vapid, well connected pretty boy. To reiterate, he's Kentucky's version of Evan Bayh, vision free, but ambitious. Since I live in Kentucky, and this is the third time I've seen this clown's run for office, I'd say I do know something about him. The best that can be said of him is that he isn't Rand Paul.
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era veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 05:46 PM
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9. More registered democrats than repubs
We need the yellow dog Dems back. Conway has had a peculiar campaign against the carpetbagging dullard. The DNC needs to spend $$$$ here for a change.
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 06:42 PM
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12. Amen to that!

To say nothing of Paul supporting McConnell and vice versa. :banghead:
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 05:30 PM
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7. Conway sounds like a candidate who wants to win the Senate seat in Kentucky.
HINTS: KY is not MA, or CA. This is 2010, not 2008. The momentum is not with us. Every seat is important. Chill on the purity tests.
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quiller4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 05:41 PM
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8. Here Here. Purity tests are for fools who don't care about winning.
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DrToast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 06:10 PM
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11. Ding ding ding!*
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golfguru Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-10 01:42 AM
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18. You mean wink wink nod nod say anything to get elected?
Yeah why the hell not. Anything is OK to defeat the teabagger Paul.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 06:48 PM
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13. Fine, lets have rand paul.
:sarcasm:

:thumbsdown:
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 07:00 PM
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14. I find this post to be less than helpful
All due respect.
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timber84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 08:55 PM
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39. all of the OP's post follow the same pattern.
Alas apparently very few of us have taken notice.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-10 12:13 AM
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16. Blue Dogs are a caucus in the House, not the Senate
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-10 12:45 AM
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17. His primary challenger was more conservative.
We got the better choice.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-10 07:57 AM
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19. It's Kentucky. And he is running against Rand Paul. Not every state has progressive options.
It's called reality.
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JustAmused Donating Member (261 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-10 12:36 PM
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20. Not a Blue Dog
Conway is not a Blue Dog by any means. I don't agree with him on the tax cut issue, but I don't expect to agree with any candidate 100%. Jack has the advantage of being both reasonable, meaning his position can change, and competent. Compare him to the Mad Hatter he is running against, and then tell me I should not support him.
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dave29 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-10 12:40 PM
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21. and Rand Paul is a racist lunatic.
The choice is yours
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-10 01:34 PM
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22. A pile of dogshit is preferable to Rand Paul. nt
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Mike Marble Donating Member (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-10 04:08 PM
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23. Conway is also playing reactionary drug war politics against Rand Paul.
Yay, another tax-cut-for-the-rich drug warrior. Just what we need in Congress. But he isn't Rand Paul. Glad I don't have to vote in Kentucky.
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JustAmused Donating Member (261 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-10 04:57 PM
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24. What?
Care to offer up an example of this? The subject came up when Rand stated that drug use is not a problem in Kentucky, and that it is a local issue anyway, so there should be no federal money given to local agencies. Not really the reactionary rabid drug warrior you want to portray him as. And BTW, since he is the state Attorney General, it is his job to enforce the law.
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Mike Marble Donating Member (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-10 05:29 PM
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25. Conway wants to perpetuate the reactionary drug war.
Paul said drug abuse should be a local issue and the anti-drug task forces should not get federal funds. Conway attacked him for that. Classic drug warrior politics.

I'm not a Rand Paul fan, but neither am I a fan of the drug war or of politicians like Conway who try to use it to score political points.

As I said, I'm glad I don't have to vote in Kentucky.
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JustAmused Donating Member (261 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-10 11:52 PM
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27. LOL
Frankly I am glad you aren't in Kentucky either. You have no idea what you are talking about. Ever hear of "hillbilly heroin"? It is a huge problem in Eastern Kentucky, along with meth. It is a huge problem, especially in this economy. You know, not everyone you don't agree with is a reactionary. Check your facts next time, or is that something you bother with?
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Mike Marble Donating Member (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 12:50 PM
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29. Kentucky has drug use levels in line with the rest of the country.
You want facts? Check out the national household surveys at SAMSHA.

Conway is playing good old drug warrior politics on this issue. Yay! More federal anti-drug task forces.
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JustAmused Donating Member (261 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 01:33 PM
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31. Really??
And are those broken down by what part of the state? That is very important here. Very high unemployment, and very high drug use are characterize of much of Eastern Kentucky. Again, you have no idea what you are talking about, but I don't think that bothers you much. It is just easier to jump your own special high horse and scream about something you know nothing about. Also again, I am also very glad you don't vote here.
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 08:21 PM
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34. Wrong
According to SAMSHA, illicit drug use other than marijuana by those age 12 or older is among the highest in the nation:

http://oas.samhsa.gov/2k8state/AppB.htm#TabB-6

Kentucky may be 19th in meth use, but it has the highest rate this side of the Mississippi River. Considering that includes at least half of the population of the United States, that's saying something: http://www.oas.samhsa.gov/2k6/statemeth/stateMeth.htm

Maybe you ought to try actually looking at these surveys instead of just repeating a talking point you saw on a message board somewhere.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-10 05:31 PM
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26. Perhaps because Conway realizes Senate will vote for at least a one year extension of the Bush tax
cut for the top 2% to get a deal within their own party on Bush tax cuts, estate tax, AMT, etc.

Unfortunately, we must live with the Senate we have, not the Senate we'd like. I do hope the Dems in the Senate will work it so the tax on the top 2% will automatically return to the Clinton era tax rates--with a top rate of 39.6%. A multi-millionare surcharge used to fund an infrastructure bank would be a great way to get this country back to work.

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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 12:56 AM
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28. It's Kentucky. At least he has a brain and appears to be able to listen to reason.
He'd be light years ahead of the alternative.

You are not going to elect a liberal in Kentucky.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 01:10 PM
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30. KY is a conservative state. It's not going to elect a liberal Democrat
It is either going to elect a moderate Democrat or a Republican. The moderate Democrat will vote with Democrats most of the time, but not often enough to satisfy blue state liberals. The Republican will almost never vote with the Democrats.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 05:45 PM
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33. Got to take the good with the bad; the alternative is too terrible to contemplate n/t
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 08:23 PM
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35. I don't think Russ Feingold or Sheldon Whitehouse
would get very far in a Democratic primary in Kentucky.

Conway's the far better choice over that crackpot he's running against in the general.

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angee_is_mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 08:24 PM
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37. Are you really surprise?
the man is from Kentucky for heavens sake. If he makes it he will be like nelson in the senate. An unreliable dem vote and a reliable rethug vote on big ticket items.
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 08:26 PM
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38. If you actually lived here
you would know that he isn't "trying to be a rethug." Do Republicans want to let Medicare negotiate lower drug prices? Just curious.

It's also curious that went into an article that shreds Rand Paul nicely, yet managed to cherry-pick ONE item about Conway to to bitch about. Makes me wonder if we don't have another starry-eyed Paulite in our midst.
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