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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 11:20 AM Original message |
Many of us passionate Obama supporters share the frustrations of his critics on the left but. . . |
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young but wise (760 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 11:25 AM Response to Original message |
1. Beautifully said. |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 11:26 AM Response to Original message |
2. honestly the conspiricy theories here have ruined the place. it;s all becoming a dungeon. |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 01:04 PM Response to Reply #2 |
30. There's no conspiracy... |
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JAbuchan08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 10:40 AM Response to Reply #30 |
130. I've been saying the same thing (less articulately) for years eom. |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 11:26 AM Response to Original message |
3. Many of us are disappointed but prefer Obama to giving up and electing the GOP |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 01:18 AM Response to Reply #3 |
114. I guess it depends on your definition of "giving up." |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 11:27 AM Response to Original message |
4. "Fall in line?" |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 11:29 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Well considering I was talking about Ben Nelson, Joe Lieberman, Blanche Lincoln, Mark Pryor. . . |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 11:31 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Duly noted |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 12:05 PM Response to Reply #4 |
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Aramchek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 01:14 PM Response to Reply #4 |
37. I guess you would rather fall on your face. Enjoy! |
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MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 11:28 PM Response to Reply #4 |
105. "Intelligent dissent is the highest form of patriotism" |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 11:34 PM Response to Reply #105 |
106. Yup we are not getting intelligent dissent, we are getting over the top dramatic knee jerk reactions |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 01:53 PM Response to Reply #105 |
135. If Obama is able to serve the needs of America, he's got my support |
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Schema Thing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 11:28 AM Response to Original message |
5. Exactly. The word "progressive" comes from "progress", not... |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 09:47 PM Response to Reply #5 |
100. The problem is that no progress is being made ............. |
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RandomThoughts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 11:29 AM Response to Original message |
7. Sometimes it seems that way. |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 11:37 AM Response to Original message |
9. Actually |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 11:40 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. I'm not worried about Obama's feelings, I'm worried about the movement. . . |
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pscot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 12:16 PM Response to Reply #10 |
17. I've been bitching at the President |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 12:18 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Exactly, I'm African American who would support whomever is nominated however. . . |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 12:20 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. You made another important statement: |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 01:13 PM Response to Reply #20 |
34. And you have examples of this "hate talk" right? (n/t) |
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pscot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 03:39 PM Response to Reply #34 |
79. Open your eyes |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 07:16 PM Response to Reply #79 |
88. Spot on with the point about character assassination. . . |
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ampad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 09:02 PM Response to Reply #79 |
97. It really is simple |
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lillypaddle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 06:34 AM Response to Reply #97 |
120. Actually, it seems to me |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 02:12 PM Response to Reply #97 |
137. I don't read that kind of crap |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 02:10 PM Response to Reply #79 |
136. I guess I don't visit "those threads" |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 03:30 PM Response to Reply #20 |
78. I have seen the hate talk too, and the utterly unrealistic expectations and I'm over it too. |
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ampad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 08:45 PM Response to Reply #17 |
95. Yes the AA community is taking notice |
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johnlucas (248 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 10:31 PM Response to Reply #17 |
103. I'm Black & the Democrats (including Obama) are dead to me |
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MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 11:54 PM Response to Reply #103 |
110. JohnLucas I am Black too... |
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johnlucas (248 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 01:27 AM Response to Reply #110 |
115. I'm not cutting him any more excuses |
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johnlucas (248 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 02:14 AM Response to Reply #110 |
116. One more thing: My history with The Vote |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 12:21 PM Response to Reply #103 |
131. I would think that we Black folk, just like anybody else don't agree on everything. . . |
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johnlucas (248 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 10:46 PM Response to Reply #131 |
149. I never said that how one views Obama is a qualifier of Blackness |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 02:16 PM Response to Reply #103 |
138. If elections could change anything, they'd make them illegal... |
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johnlucas (248 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 11:15 PM Response to Reply #138 |
150. ProudDad, I am proud of YOU |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 01:01 AM Response to Reply #17 |
113. The Black community is divided. Get out more. Many of us are very displeased. n/t |
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olegramps (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 09:48 AM Response to Reply #17 |
125. Hate talk? I have heard a lot of justified criticism, no hate talk. |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 04:40 PM Response to Reply #17 |
148. I don't understand your logic. Progressive criticism of Obama has nothing to do with his race. |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 01:11 PM Response to Reply #10 |
32. If by "movement" |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 01:14 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. "you mean pinning one's hopes on the Democrats, that's delusional." this the DEMOCRATICUNDERGROUND |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 01:17 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. It doesn't upset me |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 02:16 PM Response to Reply #41 |
71. you've just stated clearly you have no respect for the democratic party or voters. |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 07:21 PM Response to Reply #71 |
89. Plus 1,000,000 |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 02:23 PM Response to Reply #71 |
139. Speak the Inconvenient Truths to those capable of listening... (n/t) |
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johnlucas (248 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 05:35 AM Response to Reply #41 |
119. Stockholm Syndrome is right |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 02:27 PM Response to Reply #32 |
75. K&R Post #32 by ProudDad. |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 02:24 PM Response to Reply #75 |
140. Beautiful, beautiful! |
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frazzled (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 10:05 AM Response to Reply #32 |
126. Take your own advice and get off your computer |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 02:26 PM Response to Reply #126 |
141. This board is a hotbed of logic errors... |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 04:56 PM Response to Reply #32 |
154. You can try to find common ground with racist teabaggers. |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 06:33 PM Response to Reply #32 |
158. Join the teabaggers? Are you insane? |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 09:28 AM Response to Reply #10 |
124. They don't 'have' to realize that |
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nckjm (66 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 10:25 AM Response to Reply #10 |
128. I respectfully suggest however... |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 11:40 AM Response to Original message |
11. He also has to fight those Democrats on the right who might as well be Republicans on fiscal issues. |
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theaocp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 11:47 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Indeed. |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 01:10 PM Response to Reply #13 |
31. Lincoln did vote today for both the Baucus and Schumer amendments re expiring tax cuts. |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 01:14 PM Response to Reply #13 |
35. Well, he supported Lincoln against the Progressive who was running against her |
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Uzybone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 01:22 PM Response to Reply #35 |
44. Halter was a progressive? |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 01:38 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. Comparatively |
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BklnDem75 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 05:22 PM Response to Reply #35 |
155. That he's smart? |
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theaocp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
12. The President embraces the corporations and |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 11:51 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. It doesn't hurt my feelings but what it does it makes me not want to have anything to do with you. . |
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Peregrine Took (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 12:00 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. Then you won't want to have anything to do with me either. |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 01:16 PM Response to Reply #14 |
40. And how is "supporting" someone who has completely BLOCKED |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 01:59 PM Response to Reply #40 |
63. Irrelevant. We're talking about Obama |
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donheld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 11:01 PM Response to Reply #63 |
104. Sigh |
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Union Scribe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
19. So you share our frustrations, but we're ignorant haters. Okay. |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 12:21 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Take it how you wish. The reality is the critics on the left are not extending olive branches. . . |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 12:30 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Deleted message |
wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 12:32 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. I'm not pretending anything. . .I support this president, I am a progressive and . . . |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 06:49 PM Response to Reply #22 |
86. you may have seen an "eyeful" but your eyeful is not necessarily |
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Union Scribe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 07:14 PM Response to Reply #86 |
87. The President has squandered my respect |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 08:20 PM Response to Reply #87 |
90. the only issue that I intended to imply that might change in time is |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 08:25 PM Response to Reply #90 |
92. I predict DADT will be repealed before the end of the year |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 08:35 PM Response to Reply #92 |
94. I hope it is, but if not, I fully believe it will be before the next |
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ibegurpard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
24. I'm not interested in your motivations |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 12:37 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. What policy do I support that you do not agree with? |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 12:39 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. +1 n/t |
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pscot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 12:59 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. That's dumb |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 01:03 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Exactly. . . |
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dgibby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 01:15 PM Response to Reply #28 |
38. I think the word your looking for is DEMOCRATIC party, not Democrat, |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 01:20 PM Response to Reply #38 |
43. You are right, but lets not attribute every typo to someone being a wing nut. . . |
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dgibby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 01:30 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. Did I say that? |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 01:22 PM Response to Reply #28 |
45. If you'll look closely |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
29. Face facts... |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 01:12 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. So you can imagine that with an attitude like that I don't see you as an ally or someone I could... |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 01:31 PM Response to Reply #33 |
47. If the ONLY way you can see to promote a Progressive agenda |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 01:32 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Good so I know you aren't on the team for 2012. . .no need to waste my time on you |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 01:40 PM Response to Reply #48 |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 01:51 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. Why do you distinguish between "progressive" and "corporatist"? (nt) |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 01:52 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. Why can't you see the difference? (n/t) |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 01:53 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Because the great progressives I think of like FDR were corporatists too |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 09:33 PM Response to Reply #50 |
98. DU is a board for Democrats. Dems that are usually mostly liberal. |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 02:30 PM Response to Reply #98 |
143. DU is (or was <shrug>) |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 01:16 PM Response to Reply #29 |
39. Deleted message |
ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 01:50 PM Response to Reply #39 |
51. You're welcome... (n/t) |
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dgibby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 01:19 PM Response to Reply #29 |
42. Obama describes himself as a New Democrat. |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 01:51 PM Response to Reply #42 |
52. Indeed... |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 01:52 PM Response to Reply #52 |
55. Yup, just like FDR |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 01:55 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. FDR was NOT Progressive... |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 01:52 PM Response to Reply #42 |
54. DLC is different from the Blue Dogs |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 01:56 PM Response to Reply #54 |
59. Libertarian twaddle... (n/t) |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 01:56 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. Wait. Neither the blue dogs nor the DLC are remotely libertarian |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 02:00 PM Response to Reply #60 |
64. Ok, Smoke Screen |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 02:02 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. No. It's a simple factual point that I'm right about |
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Celtic Raven (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 01:25 PM Response to Reply #66 |
133. And he's called himself both |
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BklnDem75 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 05:36 PM Response to Reply #42 |
157. Still waiting for that quote |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 01:57 PM Response to Original message |
61. Disagreeing with Prez policies & attempting to present alternatives is not 'attacking' |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 01:58 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. No, but saying he's going to be a one-termer is |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 02:31 PM Response to Reply #62 |
144. Truth can hurt, can't it? (n/t) |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 02:02 PM Response to Original message |
65. A noble post |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 02:02 PM Response to Original message |
67. I've become a vigorous critic, but never call him corporatist, traitor, etc. |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 02:14 PM Response to Reply #67 |
70. And because you don't call names you are more effective because I'm willing |
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VMI Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 02:03 PM Response to Original message |
68. Centrist appeasers are a dime a dozen. |
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great white snark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 02:19 PM Response to Reply #68 |
73. So are the serial haters. |
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Aristus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 02:11 PM Response to Original message |
69. You know where I stand, wndycty. |
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tallahasseedem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 02:18 PM Response to Original message |
72. Recommended |
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great white snark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 02:21 PM Response to Original message |
74. Kick and Rec. |
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saorsa (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 03:18 PM Response to Original message |
76. see here's the problem |
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ibegurpard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 03:23 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. excellent response...needs some formatting changes though |
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johnlucas (248 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 08:20 AM Response to Reply #76 |
121. Real talk from saorsa! |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 02:34 PM Response to Reply #121 |
145. Isn't it interesting |
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Union Scribe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 10:29 AM Response to Reply #76 |
129. "nobody EVER beat the Right Wing by cuddling it to death" |
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Celtic Raven (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 01:32 PM Response to Reply #76 |
134. Excellent post! |
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Paladin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 02:29 PM Response to Reply #76 |
142. Eloquent And Absolutely Dead-On. Thank You, Saorsa. |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 02:56 PM Response to Reply #76 |
147. Go run and OP that |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 03:41 PM Response to Original message |
80. how often do we have to acknowledge his accomplishments before criticism is valid? |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 03:44 PM Response to Original message |
81. Good point, but you're wrong when you assert that the attacks are only from the left. |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 04:12 PM Response to Reply #81 |
82. I appreciate your point |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 04:26 PM Response to Reply #82 |
84. I meant to type that liberals *aren't* his biggest problem. Independents and moderates are. |
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DemocraticPilgrim (472 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
83. AGREE, what about our bully pulpit. why is it on one mans shoulders to get the message. it?? |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 04:41 PM Response to Original message |
85. People who rationally criticize his policies and strategy are also routinely lambasted here |
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Pisces (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 08:24 PM Response to Original message |
91. Very well said Windy. |
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political_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 08:33 PM Response to Original message |
93. K and R. |
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Raine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 09:02 PM Response to Original message |
96. Well if I wouldn't accept a stance from the repukes |
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LittleBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 09:41 PM Response to Original message |
99. So what? Do you want a gold star? |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 09:50 PM Response to Original message |
101. I'm with you ... and if you compare it to tradiitonal warfare ... |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 10:25 PM Response to Reply #101 |
102. Plus 1,000,000 |
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CakeGrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 11:44 PM Response to Original message |
107. I think a lot of posters here are beyond reasonable discourse |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 12:03 AM Response to Reply #107 |
111. I also see a lot of reasonable criticism here |
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CakeGrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 12:10 AM Response to Reply #111 |
112. There is reasonable criticism, yours being a case in point; however, it |
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johnlucas (248 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 08:43 AM Response to Reply #111 |
122. Wrong! A co-opting Democrat is NOT better than Republican |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 12:46 PM Response to Reply #122 |
132. I prefer a partisan ideologue myself |
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Lisa0825 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 11:49 PM Response to Original message |
108. Thank you. K&R |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 11:52 PM Response to Original message |
109. I hear you, wndycty... |
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Steve_I_Am (55 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 02:47 AM Response to Original message |
117. The surest way for Obama . . . |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 03:02 PM Response to Reply #117 |
152. The President NEEDS to stand and fight for the middle-class (and the poor).n/t |
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StarsInHerHair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 03:41 AM Response to Original message |
118. it seems more like Obama and his circle are attacking the Left, not the other |
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Itchinjim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 08:58 AM Response to Original message |
123. KNR |
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olegramps (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 10:17 AM Response to Original message |
127. All I hear is the desire for substantive change and frustration because of gridlock. |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 02:46 PM Response to Original message |
146. Here's your major problem. |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 03:01 PM Response to Original message |
151. I try to not be disagreeable when disagreeing. Namecalling is unhelpful. |
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Sheepshank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 03:07 PM Response to Original message |
153. Damn that rec button |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 05:25 PM Response to Original message |
156. You are absolutely correct. And I am very close to outright opposing an Obama reelection. |
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