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Gaining House seats: AZ, FL, GA, NV, SC, TX, UT, WA. Losing: IL, IA, LA, MA, MI, MO, NJ, NY, OH, PA

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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 11:33 AM
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Gaining House seats: AZ, FL, GA, NV, SC, TX, UT, WA. Losing: IL, IA, LA, MA, MI, MO, NJ, NY, OH, PA
Edited on Tue Dec-21-10 11:58 AM by jefferson_dem
Based on just released 2010 Census.

Bunch more data and info breaking on "teh twittah" at http://twitter.com/#search?q=%232010census
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 11:38 AM
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1. more of the shift to the sun belt and away from the industrial east and midwest
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 11:39 AM
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3. Regional growth: Northeast +3.2%, Midwest 3.9%, South 14.3%, West 13.8%
n/t
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Skinner ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 11:38 AM
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2. Ugh.
That's not exactly good news for Democrats.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 11:45 AM
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8. Were You Expecting Anything Different?
Edited on Tue Dec-21-10 11:46 AM by DemocratSinceBirth
This is a trend that has been going on for decades... It has plateaued a bit in FL due to the lousy economy here but most demographers expect the trend to reassert itself as soon as the economy improves...
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Skinner ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 12:20 PM
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15. No I wasn't.
But that doesn't mean I have to be happy about it..
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 11:46 AM
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9. Not good news at all.
In sum: Of eleven new districts, seven are in McCain states. Of twelve eliminated districts, ten are in Obama states. :(

We'll just have to work harder. :)
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Raine1967 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 02:14 PM
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22. I'd REALLY like to see the age demographics on this shift.
This is crap news, that we sorta thought was coming (ok I did -- I knew NYS would be losing at least one district -- 2 surprised me.) -- but I wonder how many of these people will be around for the next census.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 01:00 PM
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20. No it does not look like it. Hopefully some of those people who moved
south or west will take their values with them and vote Democratic. Or maybe we will get lucky and they will secede. :sarcasm:
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 11:40 AM
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4. OH and NY lose two seats each! FL and AZ gain two seats each. TX gains four!
Edited on Tue Dec-21-10 11:40 AM by jefferson_dem
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 11:41 AM
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5. Some details from Hotline: U.S. Growth Slows As Southern States Gain
U.S. Growth Slows As Southern States Gain
By Reid Wilson
December 21, 2010 | 11:37 AM

The Sun Belt will gain new seats in Congress as the U.S. population continued to shift south and west, according to data released Tuesday by the U.S. Census Bureau and its director, Dr. Robert Groves.

The new data show the country grew at a slower pace than it has in earlier decades. But states in the south grew at a faster rate than states in the Rust Belt. Those states will give up some representation in Congress, while southern states will grow in influence.

Texas, Florida, Arizona, Nevada, South Carolina, Georgia, Utah and Washington State will all gain members of Congress. Texas's delegation will grow the most, adding four seats. Florida and Arizona both gained two seats.

Meanwhile, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Illinois, Iowa, Michigan, Massachusetts, Missouri, New Jersey and Louisiana will each lose House seats. New York and Ohio, two states hard hit by generations of migration and more recent industrial stagnation, will lose two seats each.

Louisiana, the only state not in the Northeast or the Midwest, lost population following Hurricane Katrina in 2005, when thousands of residents fled to neighboring states, largely to Texas.

<SNIP>

http://hotlineoncall.nationaljournal.com/archives/2010/12/us-growth-slows.php
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 11:43 AM
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6. The map.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 11:49 AM
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10. Alaska and Wyoming should only have 1/2 a vote.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 11:45 AM
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7. Democrats in blue states should had included on their Census form
all of their critters.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 11:52 AM
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11. PA lost a Democratic Senator we had for a few months since Specter changed parties...
we will have fewer Democratic Reps as well, but the worst is we will have a GOP governor and so few remaining Democrats in the state legislature as to render them powerless.

We have essentially become a red state, even though PA Democratic voters outnumber GOP voters by over a million.


mark
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Cosmocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 03:18 PM
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24. Yep ...
they have the State Senate and House so tragically rigged the Senate will have a permanent republican majority if the State somehow gains another 1 million edge in D voters, and the federal congressional districts are probably the worst in the country for gerry mandering ...

And, as noted, R house, senate and governor overseeing this go around ...

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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 05:23 PM
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26. Yah, PA is screwed up right now. One of the biggest contributors
is that they have discovered massive natural gas deposits in the state. Halliburton and friends are raining money to any Repukes willing to do their bidding. The sheeple have no idea.

Dem's outnumber GOP where I live about 3 to 1.
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FBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 08:23 PM
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30. There's a difference between "voters" and those who are merely registered.
There's also a difference (as those of us in the South learned many years ago) between how a voter is registered and how they vote.

It does not appear that Democratic voters outnumbered Republicans in November in PA.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 11:52 AM
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12. Census 2010 shows red states gaining Congressional seats
Census 2010 shows red states gaining Congressional seats
By Aaron Blake

The congressional map continued to shift toward red states Tuesday, as the U.S. Census Bureau released new apportionment data.

The census numbers reshuffled the number of seats in Congress for 18 states, based on population gains and losses over the past decade. Most states gaining seats went for Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) in the 2008 presidential election, while almost all states that lost seats were won by President Obama -- many of them in the Rust Belt.

The westward movement of the U.S. population means eight districts in states that went for Obama will shift to states that went for McCain -- a small but significant shift that could help a GOP presidential candidate in 2012, provided they can hold those states for the party.

Most of the other new seats will be in swing states that went for Obama, which could also be won by Republicans in 2012.

<SNIP>

The biggest losers were New York and Ohio, which each lost two seats. Eight other states lost a single seat: Illinois, Iowa, Louisiana, Massachusetts, Michigan, Missouri, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania.

Five of the eight states that are gaining seats were won by McCain in the 2008 presidential race. Eight of the 10 that are losing seats went to Obama.

<SNIP>

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/mapping-the-future/red-states-gain-as-new-congres.html
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cherish44 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 11:56 AM
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13. That's been the trend for a while now, so no big surprise
Edited on Tue Dec-21-10 12:06 PM by cherish44
Just a theory but I think a lot of the growth in places like FL, AZ and TX has to do with growing Hispanic populations. And if Republicans keep shitting on them they way have have been lately, I'm willing to bet these "red" states might start looking a little purple if we can get this population to the polls
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golfguru Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 12:32 PM
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16. Unless
they put Rubio or Martinez in VP slot.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 12:40 PM
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18. Obama won FL in '08, but Texas hasn't shown any sign of changing
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ChazII Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 05:49 PM
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28. Agreed. n/t
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 12:02 PM
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14. Democratic operative Tom Bonier on "the path to victory"...
Tom Bonier, one of the Democratic Party's leading redistricting wizards, e-mails:

With seats shifting mostly from the Northeast and Midwest into the South and West, if you apply the new apportionment to the 2008 results, Obama loses 6 electoral votes.

In terms of the 2010 map, if you rank the states from the largest Obama margin to the largest McCain margin, Colorado was the state that put Obama over 270 (276). That does not change with the new apportionment — Colorado would now put Obama at exactly 270.

That means that there is a path to victory that does not include winning Virginia, Ohio, Florida, the 2nd CD in Nebraska, Indiana, or North Carolina. Of course, given the change in the political landscape since 2008, we would expect to see some shifting in this rank order, meaning Ohio and Florida at a minimum will have to remain top tier targets.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1210/Reapportionment_costs_Obama_6_leaves_path.html
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 12:35 PM
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17. Well
that sucks.


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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 12:49 PM
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19. Democrats need to start having more babies! LOL!!
No, but on a serious note:

Maybe that's why the Republicans don't care about alienating Hispanics, blacks and Muslims. They are gaining more bigoted white Republican districts.

I had been baffled about how they don't seem to care who they offend. Now I know...
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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 02:02 PM
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21. These census reports don't mean shit the last report that was done they said the rethugs
would benefit
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 03:07 PM
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23. Aww, crap I was hoping Minnesota would lose a seat
Since it was highly likely it would be Bachmann's cut.
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craigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 04:51 PM
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25. What happens to blue districts in a red state where they gain a new seat?
I mean would they split it and try to make it purple and harder for dems to win or would it just be easier for them to split a red district in half?
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former9thward Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 11:23 PM
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31. Every district has to contain an average of roughly 708,000 residents.
That can vary a little depending on the state. So they just can't split a red district in half. But they could move boundaries so there are more red voters in a blue district giving them an opportunity to pick it up.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 05:47 PM
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27. Odd that people's districts must change
I'm from a one district state, DE. We can't lose one! And it applies to the whole state.

Any DUers whose woke up after one census to find themselves in another district? And what was the difference? Redder or bluer or what.
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tabbycat31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 05:52 PM
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29. I am sure mine will change
I live in a state (NJ) that is losing a seat and in the most gerrymandered district (NJ-6--- google it for a map) in the state (the district is gerrymandered for a Democrat).

I would HATE to see my representation change but I accept that it might.
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