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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 05:22 PM
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Obama says: “We think GE has something to teach businesses all over America.”
Edited on Sun Jan-23-11 05:23 PM by brentspeak


http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/01/22-7

Published on Saturday, January 22, 2011 by ThisCan'tBeHappening.net
Are GE and Jeffrey Immelt Really American?

by Dave Lindorff

Between 2005 and 2009, according to GE’s own 10-K financial reports, the company shed jobs in the US so fast, and added them abroad so fast, that the US employee share of GE’s total workforce dropped from 51% to 44%, a process of job destruction that has continued apace since then. In 2009 and 2010, according to information compiled by the United Electrical Workers (UE), GE closed down 29 manufacturing plants in North America, 28 of them in the US and one in Canada. A total of 3000 workers lost their jobs in those closings, with many of those jobs being added at GE facilities overseas in low-paying countries like China and India. But actually, the job losses were greater, as those shuttered facilities had until recently employed twice that many workers, UE reports.

Just last September, for example, GE announced that it was shutting down its last US lightbulb manufacturing plant and moving that operation to China. The 200 workers at the factory in Winchester, VA, who had been earning some $30 per hour making lightbulbs for the US market, were all added to the US jobless rolls. Why? Workers in China could make the new substitute fluorescent bulbs cheaper, and then GE could import them back into the US duty-free.

Meanwhile, (Jeffrey) Immelt recently told Forbes magazine about his company’s plans for expanding jobs...in India. As he put it to the magazine, the company’s approach to expanding its markets in the rest of the world is “to be ‘local’ in every sense of the word. That means migrating P&L (profit and loss) responsibility and major business functions (like R&D, manufacturing and marketing) from a centralized headquarters to an experienced in-country team.”

...

And yet, President Obama, in naming Immelt to his new post, said, “We think GE has something to teach businesses all over America.”

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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 05:23 PM
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1. I wish he would quit thinking about businesses and start thinking about citizens.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 05:27 PM
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2. If the goal is to make America start producing stuff in house, you have to look at businesses.
It's the jobs, stupid
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Autumn Colors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 05:31 PM
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6. & GE has something to teach them??? After outsourcing thousands of jobs to China? (nt)
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 06:08 PM
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14. And more observant people would say 'It's the OUTSOURCING of jobs, stupid.' GE is one of the WORST
and pretending they are not is what got this country into the economic mess it has been in for over a decade.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 06:30 PM
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18. Point taken.
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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 08:18 PM
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28. I wish people would stop pretending that the 2 are mutually exclusive.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 05:28 PM
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3. Well, if he does those things, no jobs will be created. Immelt in a speech Dec. 2009:
<...>

We should set a national goal to create high value added jobs and have manufacturing jobs be no less than 20 percent of total employment, about twice what it is today. And we should commit ourselves to compete and win with American exports.

link


Maybe the President will engage him along those lines.

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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 07:06 PM
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23. thanks for the link
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 10:01 PM
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30. *YAWN*
:eyes:
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 05:29 PM
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4. That's a frightening statement.
If anything, he'll teach business how to outsource jobs.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 05:32 PM
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7. "If anything, he'll teach business how to outsource jobs."
Then President Obama will have the worst job record of any President. Do you think that's the plan?

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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 06:01 PM
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11. Given Obama's pushing Bush's free trade agreement with South Korea?
Yes. Many of us fear that is the plan.

-Laelth
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 06:03 PM
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12. "Yes. Many of us fear that is the plan."
So you believe the President's plan is to sabbotage the economy, not create jobs, but ship them overseas?

OK.


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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 06:28 PM
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16. That is exactly what he appears to be doing.
Here's why I think he's doing it, if you're interested: http://laelth.blogspot.com/2010/12/kissing-butt-and-taking-names-obamas.html

-Laelth
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 10:03 PM
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31. I have suspicions about that poster and I don't think he will ever change his tune.
For the same reason paid spokespeople don't change their tune.
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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 07:27 PM
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24. The reason discussions go around you with no heeed of your remarks is that you are ignored
and irelevant.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 07:29 AM
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32. Indeed.
If you would care to take a look at the essay to which I linked, above, you would find that I argued that the American people, generally speaking, and liberals like me, in particular, are ignored and irrelevant to the President's plan to get re-elected.

I could not agree with you more.

-Laelth
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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 07:54 PM
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26. You forgot
eliminating Social Security!:crazy:
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 05:30 PM
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5. Like what? Better ways to dodge taxes?
Just wondering.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 05:37 PM
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 05:45 PM
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9. like how to get rid of those pesky evening talk hosts. . . .
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 05:59 PM
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10. What? How to send all our jobs to China? n/t
-Laelth
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 06:05 PM
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13. Wasn't Immelt the CEO who told his executives to think of China, China, China?
x(
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crazylikafox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 06:18 PM
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15. yes
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 06:46 PM
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20. Thanks!!
:)
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 06:29 PM
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17. Yep. That's our guy. n/t
-Laelth
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 06:45 PM
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19. Sounds like a great pick.............
:eyes:
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Jakes Progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 06:48 PM
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21. What discussion is there? We've been had.
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 07:04 PM
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22. Don't be so glum, people! There has to be some sort of explanation for all this! Clearly, Obama
sees something in Immelt that the rest of us can't possibly see. Oh sure, you can look at Immelt's record of closing almost 30 U.S. factories in two years, and this whole "create a job for every job outsourced" idea he has doesn't have a whole lot of accountability or anything, but there simply MUST be SOME kind of MULTI-LEVEL reason as to why this man is where he is today, giving the president ideas about job "creation"! Just wait...the endgame will come soon....soon enough...
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 07:28 PM
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25. And he was just promoting Walmart, last week. (nt)
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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 07:56 PM
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27. Is there a primary source for that quote?
“We think GE has something to teach businesses all over America.”

So far, Google comes up short.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 07:37 AM
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34. Try the damn White House Website
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2011/01/21/remarks-president-economy-schenectady-new-york



".....And I am so proud and pleased that Jeff has agreed to chair this panel -- my Council on Jobs and Competitiveness -- because we think GE has something to teach businesses all across America. (Applause.)"
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olegramps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 08:54 AM
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36. I totally agree with President Obama.
Edited on Mon Jan-24-11 08:55 AM by olegramps
GE definitely has something to teach all American businesses. If you want to maximize profits, then you outsourced the jobs and can the overpaid American workers while you lobby Congress to not impose tariffs on your products so that you can put them on the market duty free. Simple enough even a cave man can understand it.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 10:00 PM
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29. Obama to Americans: DROP DEAD.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 07:35 AM
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33. There was a time when the GE brand was synonymous with quality
for appliances, large and small. When it comes to purchasing quality, GE, and RCA, right now are at the bottom of my list for consideration. You know the quality of a leader by the output and policies they implement in their companies, and this guy should not be there.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 08:25 AM
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35. My fathwer worked for GE and he stopped buying their products at the company store
My father worked for GE for many years, and could buy GE products at a steep discount at the GE employees store.

But during the Age of Jack Welch, he stopped buying there because their products had become so shitty.
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