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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 02:24 PM
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McConnell blinks? Teabagger heads explode, demand "Pontius Pilate" be burned in effigy!
Edited on Tue Jul-12-11 02:29 PM by jefferson_dem
:popcorn:

The Big Blink? McConnell Proposes Giving Obama Authority To Raise Debt Limit Alone

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) has proposed a sort of escape hatch for Congressional Republicans, who have threatened not to raise the national debt limit -- and trigger a default -- if Democrats don't agree to trillions of dollars in cuts to popular social programs.

The plan is designed to give President Obama the power to raise the debt limit through the end of his first term on his own, but to force Democrats to take a series of votes on the debt limit vote in the months leading up to the election.

The development confirms suspicions that the GOP was unwilling to truly use the looming debt ceiling as leverage to force conservative-friendly changes to popular entitlement programs, but suggests strongly that Republicans plan to continue politicking on the issue of debt and deficits through the 2012 elections.

In what McConnell described as a "last-choice option," McConnell proposed a method by which the country could avoid default if debt negotiations led by President Obama fail to produce a grand bargain on debt reduction.

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http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/07/the-big-blink-mcconnell-proposes-giving-obama-authority-to-raise-debt-limit-alone.php


It Is Time To Burn Mitch McConnell In Effigy. He Goes Pontius Pilate On the Debt Ceiling.

Mitch McConnell Just Proposed the "Pontius Pilate Pass the Buck Act of 2011"
Posted by Erick Erickson (Profile)

Tuesday, July 12th at 2:35PM EDT

UPDATE at the top: Some of the most willfully ignorant and willfully naive McConnell supporters are coming out of the woodwork to say this is not *the* plan, but a contingency plan if *the* plan can’t be agreed to. So let’s get this straight: if Democrats won’t agree to make spending cuts, we’ll fall back to the contingency where they get to raise the debt ceiling without making spending cuts.

That’s not a contingency, that’s handing the Democrats a silver platter.

Consider the Associated Press’s headline right now: “GOP Leader McConnell proposes giving Obama new power for automatic debt limit increase”

Mitch McConnell is right now talking about making a historic capitulation. So fearful of being blamed for a default, McConnell is proposing a compromise that lets Barack Obama raise the debt ceiling without making any spending cuts at all.

http://www.redstate.com/erick/2011/07/12/it-is-time-to-burn-mitch-mcconnell-in-effigy-he-goes-pontius-pilate-on-the-debt-ceiling/
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 02:26 PM
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1. good to see the freepers have the same circular firing squad we do...
:rofl:
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 03:30 PM
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23. Word.
Edited on Tue Jul-12-11 03:38 PM by Kahuna
:rofl:

ETA, a peep over in freepland reveals they're gathering the pitchforks as I type.





-http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2747503/posts-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

To: La Enchiladita


Looks like it’s time for a pitchfork march on Washington....
McConnell - Cantor... on the list they’ve got to go!

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stevenleser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 05:47 PM
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40. Amazing that they are mad at Cantor. He is the perfect Teabagger toadie n/t
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TheBigotBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 04:53 PM
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30. No if this was DU
the suggestion of burning a Cunservative Republican in effigy would result in a visit from the rea men in black
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 02:28 PM
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2. We're going to need a HUGE bag of popcorn for this movie.
:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 02:30 PM
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4. Pass some will ya
:popcorn:

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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 02:29 PM
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3. Hahaha, why not do it. Let's raise the ceiling without cuts to SS and Medicare. I'm all for it. nt
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 02:31 PM
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5. If he accepts the deal they can say Obama made it political to save his own ass
At first I thought McConnell started to cave. But then it occurred to me that McConnell is baiting a trap.

We'll see. But the Republicans are snakes.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 02:35 PM
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8. They surely are snakes, BUT, imo, doesn't matter what PrezO does,
they'll say anything ANYWAY! They lie, every day, in every way.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 02:56 PM
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15. Oh yeah
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 04:37 PM
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27. And many citizens believe them...Dem or otherwise. But I agree.n/t
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Kind of Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 05:38 PM
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39. +infinity! n/t
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 03:20 PM
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21. They can say whatever they want, but this is all they SHOULD have done in the first place. -nt
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 03:26 PM
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22. If Obama accepts he will not be trying to save his own ass; he
will be trying to save my old ass. At any rate,99% of US citizens don't know beans about how social security works and all will be forgotten in a few months. The GoPeers can sling all the shit they want; true Democrats duck and let it hit the walls.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 04:37 PM
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28. Society won't really see it that way. Understand that. What Repubs say is what is the meme.n/t
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 05:25 PM
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32. They'll say he's trying to save himself
So it's not what he's trying to do in reality.

Anyhow, what we've learned this afternoon shows that the Republicans are just playing another snake in the grass card that they've pulled out of their snake ass. With apologies to all reptiles, legless and/or chinless everywhere.
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 02:32 PM
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6. I'm with Mitch!
--imm
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 02:33 PM
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7. Meme of the Day (& Tomorrow): If Mitch is incapable of doing his job, he should just resign.
:shrug:
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 02:38 PM
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9. Recommended. nt
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democrat_patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 02:42 PM
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10. Except...McConnells deal is bad for Obama.
It requires Obama to make dollar for dollar cuts, for whatever he raises the debt ceiling too.

1st phase is I believe 700 Billion - no revenues, just cuts. It's the same Republican plan, except they don't have to take credit for cuts outside their base.

"Oh no - Obama cut the EPA etc...."
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bergie321 Donating Member (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 05:29 PM
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35. Actually
It requires him to PROPOSE spending cuts. He can propose all $2.4 trillion be made in defense spending. He can also veto his own proposal if it passes.
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 06:07 PM
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43. So what happens if Obama proposes cuts and doesn't follow through?
Edited on Tue Jul-12-11 06:20 PM by Cali_Democrat
Obama takes a political hit and the Republicans skate away scott free. They get to accuse Obama of going back on his word and say he's not serious about deficit reduction.

Meanwhile the Republicans can say the never proposed cuts to things like Medicare, Medicaid and SS because under this agreement, it's only Obama who is required to propose cuts.
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eilen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 05:07 AM
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48. The truth is, nobody really wants cuts. nt
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 02:43 PM
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11. What a ridiculous proposal by McConnel.
Obama is better off politically just defaulting than accepting that proposal.
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 03:31 PM
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24. I would hope Obama is more concerned about the fate of this
country than his political future.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 03:40 PM
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25. I agree. Would that all of the pols would be more concerned about
the fate of the country. :patriot:
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 04:50 PM
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29. The proposal isn't constitutional anyway.
Obama should dismiss it as such.

They're baiting him, trying to set it up so that he takes full resp for the debt ceiling having to be raised. Then they'll try to make political hay out of it. They know most Americans are uninformed about the debt ceiling and how unpopular raisng it is and they want to be able to blame him completely for raising it. Extraordinarily cynical. These people are awful
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 05:03 PM
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31. Obama "owns" the raising of the DC anyway. What difference does
it make? :shrug:
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 05:27 PM
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33. No he doesn't.
He stepped in it at the last minute when it appeared Congress wasn't going to do their job to prod them along. It is THEIR job, not his, to raise the debt ceiling to ensure the bills get paid. Spending bills start in the House. It's really a shocking abdication of power by the Congress, and I'm not sure it's constitutional.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 05:29 PM
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34. Ok. Whatever. In this case, let's say that perception is reality. nt
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 05:38 PM
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38. I don't see how its constitutional either
The Supreme Court found legislative vetoes unconstitutional in Chadha v INS.
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DrToast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 02:47 PM
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12. Bullsh*t. They caused this mess, they get to vote for it, too.*
*
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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 02:52 PM
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13. what...
they don't want to keep playing the tax cuts vs. entitlements game? :rofl:
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 02:53 PM
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14. HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! Keep it up Barack....
Where is my popcorn!!!

pretty soon tears are going to flow from McConnell and Boner!

Maybe we should be prepared to send boxes of tissue
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 03:01 PM
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16. Well, Wall Street confronts teabaggery -- and who wins?
LOL!
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Dulcinea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 06:38 PM
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45. Money talks...and teabags walk! eom
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Tennessee Gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 03:06 PM
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17. Chicken!!!! Can't stand the heat?
Cut and run!
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 03:10 PM
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18. McConnell Plan: We Get Everything We Want On Debt Ceiling, Plus 12 Opportunities To Bash Obama
New McConnell Plan: We Get Everything We Want On Debt Ceiling, Plus 12 Opportunities To Bash Obama
By Judd Legum on Jul 12, 2011 at 3:40 pm

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell is proposing a new plan that would give the Republicans everything they want — $2.5 trillion in spending cuts — plus 12 new chances to blame Obama for everything. Under the McConnell plan:

1. Obama would have to request and increase in the debt ceiling along with “a plan to reduce spending by a greater amount.”

2. Either chamber could pass a “Resolution of Disapproval” blocking the plan. Since the GOP knows they don’t have enough votes in the Senate, this method ensures the House would pass such a resolution, sending it back to the President.

3. Obama would then have an opportunity to veto the resolution.

4. Obama would have to round up enough Democratic votes to avoid the veto from being overridden.

Each of these unnecessary steps would repeated three times giving Republicans a chance to bash Obama on 12 separate occasions, while avoiding any accountability for the debt ceiling increase or spending cuts. The largest of the three debt limit increases under the McConnell Plan is scheduled for the summer of 2012, to maximize political opportunities against Obama.

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/07/12/267031/new-mcconnell-plan-we-get-everything-we-want-on-debt-ceiling-plus-12-opportunities-to-bash-obama/?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 03:12 PM
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19. "@FreedomWorks: Sen. McConnell thinks cutting spending is too hard...
Help him find his spine! Call him at 202-224-2541"

Blowback from the fringe teabagger types... on McConnell's shitty, cowardly scheme.
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 03:19 PM
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20. Debt limit only is what the President wanted in the first place.
Edited on Tue Jul-12-11 03:22 PM by CakeGrrl

But of course they try to do it by making him jump through hoops.

Asshats.
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Tennessee Gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 04:13 PM
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26. Yes, and they have done it repeatedly over the past several
years without all this hoopla. They are just proving themselves to be total jerks.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 05:31 PM
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36. I'm still in love with Judas, baby!
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 05:35 PM
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37. Wait, what?
So in exchange for a debt limit vote they want to, um...force a debt limit vote?

Mitch McConnell are not so gud at polyticks.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 05:47 PM
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41. Sorry in advance:
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 05:56 PM
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42. Mitch hits a new low with this. Craven, absurd, and I doubt legal
what a cynical fuck he is. Slime, thy name is McConnell.
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 06:23 PM
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44. Obama plays these wingnuts just like a fiddle. He's so good at it.
And God are they dumb.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 07:04 PM
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46. Of course the pukes were going to blink.. their billionaire backers wouldnt allow a default...
that would ultimately affect their bottom line.

I think the President should take this offer and run with it. Its a win-win situation in my opinion.
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 09:00 PM
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47. McConnell must have received a nicely worded message from his corporate overlords.
They know that if the debt limit isn't raised, corporate America is screwed big time and it's already beginning to cause pain.

Sounds like they finally put their foot down and said screw this negotiation shit.
Raise the damn limit or ... insert your own sword of damocles here.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 06:19 AM
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49. What a chickenshit McConnell is - as if people will think it's only the prez raising the limit...
...when he and his sicko cronies have passed him the ball. Too fuckin' funny!
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 12:42 PM
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50. Pontius Pilate? Don't they mean Judas?
That's a bad Biblical analogy.
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